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Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:17 pm

Attitudefan wrote:But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
Yes. If they've earned it, they deserve it. Toriyama busted his ass for fifteen years of weekly serialization. And he was lucky and skilled enough that millions of people fell in love with and decided to buy the product he was putting out. And so he reaped the rewards. It should very much be up to him to decide what to do with the results of his success, not the government. I wouldn't ask that Toriyama have to give up 80% of that work any more than I would ask that a beleaguered retail worker give up 80% of *his* paycheck. That is simply not a fair share for anybody.

Also, thank you, rereboy. I do understand the philosophy behind it. It's not one I necessarily agree with, not to such an extent anyway, but I appreciate you bringing up the other side of the issue.
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Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:34 pm

Eire wrote:
he lives an eccentric lifestyle: not drinking alcohol
ROTFL. Some things just refuse to change, no matter where you are.
Well, as much as excessive drinking is ingrained into the culture in Japan (there are plenty of TV ads for remedies for the results of such excess, but rarely the suggestion that perhaps people simply shouldn't drink so much), the reason Toriyama didn't drink is because he got red-faced drunk way too easily. He only started drinking alcohol in earnest during the Dragon Ball days, but complained about how it made him feel in his Jump comments.
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Post by Payne222 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:31 am

SaiyaJedi wrote:Well, as much as excessive drinking is ingrained into the culture in Japan (there are plenty of TV ads for remedies for the results of such excess, but rarely the suggestion that perhaps people simply shouldn't drink so much), the reason Toriyama didn't drink is because he got red-faced drunk way too easily. He only started drinking alcohol in earnest during the Dragon Ball days, but complained about how it made him feel in his Jump comments.
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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:47 am

So do we know anything about Toriyama's parents, and childhood other then he liked to draw pony's (Or whatever?)

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Post by Attitudefan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:19 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
Yes. If they've earned it, they deserve it. Toriyama busted his ass for fifteen years of weekly serialization. And he was lucky and skilled enough that millions of people fell in love with and decided to buy the product he was putting out. And so he reaped the rewards. It should very much be up to him to decide what to do with the results of his success, not the government. I wouldn't ask that Toriyama have to give up 80% of that work any more than I would ask that a beleaguered retail worker give up 80% of *his* paycheck. That is simply not a fair share for anybody.

Also, thank you, rereboy. I do understand the philosophy behind it. It's not one I necessarily agree with, not to such an extent anyway, but I appreciate you bringing up the other side of the issue.
I just watched a CNN blurb on Japan's airline CEO. He cut his own wage, earning less than the pilots. The wage gap between top executives and the employees is not big. Unlike the USA. Again, Japanese people, from all walks of life, have higher living standards than those in the USA.

The me me me mindset in the USA is toxic to the masses. It's all about greed and it keeps the elite on top, by design.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:32 pm

I know they call FUNimation "The House Built on Dragon Ball", but Toriyama's pad is literally the house built on Dragon Ball.

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Post by GokuRules987 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:08 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:I know they call FUNimation "The House Built on Dragon Ball", but Toriyama's pad is literally the house built on Dragon Ball.
Because he secretly loves his creation but hates to admit.
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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:27 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Taxes took away 4/5ths of his earnings?! That's ridiculous!
A very American, right wing, response.

All the wealth that the 1 percent of people in America have, there's places like Detroit and Chicago.

And that screwed up Healthcare you guys have. My god, for an industrialized country, you have public works and Healthcare that would be considered third world by international standards. Don't think I don't know what I'm talking about? I'm a political science student, and we discussed this in class just the other day.

Japan isn't like that. Most people are relatively wealthy.

But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
A very left wing response and not remotely the entire truth.
I'm with Gaffertape on this, Toriyama deserves whatever success comes his way.
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I would always figured Toriyama would live more of a remote area. Cool house, wish we could see on the interior.
I figured the same thing. Given how insular he seems, I always imagined him being somewhere rural.
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Post by Retan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:16 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
Yes. If they've earned it, they deserve it. Toriyama busted his ass for fifteen years of weekly serialization. And he was lucky and skilled enough that millions of people fell in love with and decided to buy the product he was putting out. And so he reaped the rewards. It should very much be up to him to decide what to do with the results of his success, not the government. I wouldn't ask that Toriyama have to give up 80% of that work any more than I would ask that a beleaguered retail worker give up 80% of *his* paycheck. That is simply not a fair share for anybody.

Also, thank you, rereboy. I do understand the philosophy behind it. It's not one I necessarily agree with, not to such an extent anyway, but I appreciate you bringing up the other side of the issue.
I just watched a CNN blurb on Japan's airline CEO. He cut his own wage, earning less than the pilots. The wage gap between top executives and the employees is not big. Unlike the USA. Again, Japanese people, from all walks of life, have higher living standards than those in the USA.

The me me me mindset in the USA is toxic to the masses. It's all about greed and it keeps the elite on top, by design.

Says the canadian. :lol: :thumbup:

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Post by Turtle bits » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:58 pm

Its always interesting to hear some one from another countries opinion on the US, and I mean that seriously, I often wonder if it allows for a more clear and openminded viewpoint.

But on the topic, that is completely amazing. It looks like a cross between a mansion and one of those indoor Mcdonalds play grounds, its gotta be the absolute coolest place inside.

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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:12 pm

The design of the house makes me love him even more. I also would love to see inside. I can't imagine that it would be pretentious.
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Post by Haji » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:45 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
Attitudefan wrote:But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
Yes. If they've earned it, they deserve it. Toriyama busted his ass for fifteen years of weekly serialization. And he was lucky and skilled enough that millions of people fell in love with and decided to buy the product he was putting out. And so he reaped the rewards. It should very much be up to him to decide what to do with the results of his success, not the government. I wouldn't ask that Toriyama have to give up 80% of that work any more than I would ask that a beleaguered retail worker give up 80% of *his* paycheck. That is simply not a fair share for anybody.

Also, thank you, rereboy. I do understand the philosophy behind it. It's not one I necessarily agree with, not to such an extent anyway, but I appreciate you bringing up the other side of the issue.
I just watched a CNN blurb on Japan's airline CEO. He cut his own wage, earning less than the pilots. The wage gap between top executives and the employees is not big. Unlike the USA. Again, Japanese people, from all walks of life, have higher living standards than those in the USA.

The me me me mindset in the USA is toxic to the masses. It's all about greed and it keeps the elite on top, by design.
Yeah, some day i may be able to move there. you have to be rich or someone special to get around.

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Post by ABED » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:01 pm

Yeah, some day i may be able to move there. you have to be rich or someone special to get around.
Not really, where'd you get that idea? Sure, some places like CA have insane real estate prices (mostly due to zoning laws), but there are plenty of places where the cost of living is affordable.
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Post by Haji » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:16 pm

I meant move to Japan someday, to kansai, chuubu or kanto or any region of Japan even hokkaido where its cold.

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:41 pm

I wish he gave us a tour of his house maybe a lottery of 10 lucky fans get too see the interior and maybe glance a small peak on his new dragon ball movie lol
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Post by GS7X7 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:06 pm

SaiyaJedi, you lived in Japan right?

I know Japan is extremely overcrowded and their standards of what constitutes a "mansion" are probably much different from America's.

So by Japanese standards, just how big would his property be considered to be?
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Post by thefalseprophecy » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:13 pm

Attitudefan wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Taxes took away 4/5ths of his earnings?! That's ridiculous!
A very American, right wing, response.

All the wealth that the 1 percent of people in America have, there's places like Detroit and Chicago.

And that screwed up Healthcare you guys have. My god, for an industrialized country, you have public works and Healthcare that would be considered third world by international standards. Don't think I don't know what I'm talking about? I'm a political science student, and we discussed this in class just the other day.

Japan isn't like that. Most people are relatively wealthy.

But rich guys gotta be rich, right?
I'm sorry but a classroom discussion doesn't make you an expert on the US. If the quality of US healthcare is so horrible, why do people from all over the world (including Canada) travel to the US for surgery?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:19 pm

Not exactly on topic and kind of a necropost...but while we have some great doctors, the actual health care system sucks hardcore.
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Post by GS7X7 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:47 pm

We have the best healthcare system on the planet- if you can afford it.

Because healthcare costs are skyhigh the best doctors often gravitate to here and plenty of money is pumped into RnD. (though a lot is siphoned by executives at useless corporations)

It has its positives but, again, that's only if you can afford it. There's a lot of overcharging that goes on in the medical system.
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Post by Cipher » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:06 pm

Word.

People with means seek out U.S. healthcare because we have some of the best specialized medicine in the world. We have that because far more money is pumped into it, and for everyone involved, healthcare costs far more (and far more, having briefly worked in a realted industry, than it needs to).

Whether that kind of top-care-for-top earners access is worth the great amounts of people who aren't able to afford it at all is up to you. The U.S. is currently one of the only, if not the only, developed country where citizens can go bankrupt due to necessary healthcare though, even among other capitalist democracies.

Toriyama's house is quite large for Japan. Not mostrously so, but still big.

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