ABED wrote:It's not a vigilante quest. They know Dr. Gero is behind the cyborgs that will kill them, and he was part of the Red Ribbon Army. Lastly, the chart at the back of manga volume 31 or so implies Dr. Gero was the one who created all of the cyborgs. I wouldn't take the Daizenshu as gospel.
It is, because Gero hadn't done anything wrong yet and was still innocent. My whole argument has been it would have been out of character for Goku/Z fighters do pre-emptively kill someone. They always wait for trouble to find them, not the other way around. And Goku has some moral justification for it; his timeline is already different than where Trunks came from (Trunks killed Freeza, not Goku. Goku won't die and can fight the androids).
That doesn't really work as a justification as Gero worked for the Red Ribbon Army of his own free will and was building murder bots before Goku brought the whole organization down and he's intending to do it again which will cause decades of death and destruction for the Earth. He's not innocent and deserves to die. His timeline is also only different because of Trunks' direct intervention, why should Goku think everythings going to be different everywhere just because Trunks showed up this one time at this one specific place?
ekrolo2 wrote:Hell, if Trunks had a working brain he should've just given Goku the antidote for the virus, find the DBs himself and slice & dice Gero himself before any of this can happen so the good guys can keep their "integrity".
Maybe that's what you'd do, maybe that's what I'd do. But Goku and the other Z fighters? They say balls to strategy and let the fight come to them.[/quote]
And that is precisely why I loathe and despise them throughout this entire arc. They're stupidity caused the deaths of thousands upon thousands of people, got Goku & Future Trunks killed, nearly got Tien, Piccolo, Vegeta AND Gohan nearly killed as well and then they just wish everything back to normal and they never, not once stop to think "We.... kinda screwed up here, a LOT. We should probably be smarter in the future." But because this is Dragon Ball, the protagonists can't be aware of things any intelligent person is, they've gotta be moron who win just because their enemies are even stupider than them.
If ANY other show did this kind of crap, it would be mauled, ridiculed and laughed at forever for its piss poor writing. But not Dragon Ball because.... reasons....
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):