Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

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Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Captain Strawberry » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:59 am

Goku doesn't consider it, his actual or real name. He much prefers his Earthling name and I think he considers himself more Earthling than Saiyan.
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by rereboy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:27 am

Because of the importance that Vegeta puts on being saiyan. Goku is a pure-blood saiyan, that was born on planet Vegeta and named, by his saiyan parents, as Kakarot. So, to Vegeta, what name Goku wants to be called by is irrelevant. He is Kakarot. His adoptive earthling name is irrelevant and Vegeta probably considers the use of such a name instead of his proper saiyan one as shameful.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Chuquita » Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:31 pm

Gokû is Vegeta's only everyday reminder of his people. Vegeta calls him who he sees, or wants to see him as.

I do think it's interesting how many nicknames Gokû's racked up compared to the rest of the cast.
Son-kun - Bulma
Gokû-sa - Chi-Chi
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Kakarrotto - Vegeta
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Herms » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:26 pm

Old habits, stubbornness, and tribal identity. Same reason some fans still stick with "Bills".
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by LordCrumb » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:41 pm

Herms wrote:Old habits, stubbornness, and tribal identity. Same reason some fans still stick with "Bills".
Really? I haven't heard anyone call him that since before the english dub came out..

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:46 pm

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Herms wrote:Old habits, stubbornness, and tribal identity. Same reason some fans still stick with "Bills".
Really? I haven't heard anyone call him that since before the english dub came out..
Pretty sure some official dubs use that name(was it one of the latino dubs per chance?), so it would be normal for that part of the fanbase to refer to him as Bills.
And really, when it's said in japanese, most of the times it sounds like Bills to me. The English dub pronounces it pretty clearly, so you can understand the name pun, but they go and ruin it with Whis(pronounced like Weezing, but without the ing), when it should sound like Whiskey :evil:

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:54 pm

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LordCrumb wrote:
Herms wrote:Old habits, stubbornness, and tribal identity. Same reason some fans still stick with "Bills".
Really? I haven't heard anyone call him that since before the english dub came out..
Pretty sure some official dubs use that name(was it one of the latino dubs per chance?), so it would be normal for that part of the fanbase to refer to him as Bills.
And really, when it's said in japanese, most of the times it sounds like Bills to me. The English dub pronounces it pretty clearly, so you can understand the name pun, but they go and ruin it with Whis(pronounced like Weezing, but without the ing), when it should sound like Whiskey :evil:
The Japanese pronounciation sounds more like Beers to me than Bills.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Herms » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:01 pm

I'm already sorry I brought it up...

Anyway, there is that one random Cell arc panel where Vegeta calls Goku "Goku", but that's probably just a mistake.
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:32 pm

Kakaraot is Goku's Saiyan birth name and Vegeta will always address him as such as long as Goku can turn his hair blonde.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Super Sonic » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:07 pm

It's no different from Kryptonians calling Superman "Kal-El" though he (at least post-Crisis) thinks himself first as Clark Kent. Grant there are many who aren't aware of that, but the point still stands.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:46 pm

LordCrumb wrote:
Herms wrote:Old habits, stubbornness, and tribal identity. Same reason some fans still stick with "Bills".
Really? I haven't heard anyone call him that since before the english dub came out..
I've seen a few fans call him "Bills" since the dub was released.
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Post by ABED » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:58 pm

It's no different from Kryptonians calling Superman "Kal-El" though he (at least post-Crisis) thinks himself first as Clark Kent.
Good point, and I've never understood why Clark would ever think of himself as Kal-El.
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:30 pm

Herms wrote:I'm already sorry I brought it up...

Anyway, there is that one random Cell arc panel where Vegeta calls Goku "Goku", but that's probably just a mistake.
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:21 am

Additionally, Raditz was Vegeta's partner according to DB Minus, so there is a possibility that Vegeta already heard about Kakarot from Raditz way back then and maybe even met him in passing in one of those tubes.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:45 pm

Because Vegeta is a hipster. He doesn't refer to malt liquor as "beer" but rather "lager." He doesn't refer to Super Saiyan as "Super Saiyan," but rather as "Soopa Saiya-Jin." Vegeta doesn't refer to CM Punk as "CM Punk," but rather, "Phil."

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:05 pm

Chuquita wrote:Son - Piccolo until they become friendlier
I could be wrong, but I feel like he uses that more after they become friendlier. Prior to that, he usually seemed to use the full "Son Goku" when referring to him. Oh, and don't forget Tenshinhan uses Son on occasion too!
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by nickzambuto » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:17 am

I'm more puzzled as to why certain fans actually call him Kakarot.

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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:20 am

nickzambuto wrote:I'm more puzzled as to why certain fans actually call him Kakarot.
They do? :wtf:
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Re: Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

Post by Chuquita » Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:11 am

*Nods* Yup, there used to be users on here who would call Gokû "Kakarot". I don't remember any of their handles, but I feel there were at least 3 different users who did that at some point.
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Chuquita wrote:Son - Piccolo until they become friendlier
I could be wrong, but I feel like he uses that more after they become friendlier. Prior to that, he usually seemed to use the full "Son Goku" when referring to him. Oh, and don't forget Tenshinhan uses Son on occasion too!
That sounds right; I think I was just confusing remembering when I'd heard Piccolo call him by his family name.
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