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- I see. So then after that, Goku grew up…
- I got a lot of pushback on that at the time. Apparently in shōnen manga changing what the main character looked like was a big no-no, but I didn’t care about that. His head/body ratio made fighting hard, so I said that if the series was going to start focusing more on battles, then I needed to make him an adult. But this really shocked them: “The series has finally gotten popular, and now you want to go and change everything!” That was the kind of reaction I got.
Already knew about this, but read it again just makes me glad. Screw shonen tropes, that's the way to go!
I'm glad Toriyama keeps doing his own thing. Goku the main character not winning once in BOG, a shonen theatrical movie, felt so fresh. The good middle finger.
I just like doing the opposite of whatever is trendy.
I'm happy they made him an adult. Trying to imagine the rest of Dragon Ball with Gokû still as a kid would be surreal. (There'd be no Gohan, Piccolo's development would be derailed, Vegeta would look odd competing against a child - unless Vegeta would still be a child as well, no Gotenks at all...).
I was able to get supposed (key word here, people) translations for Togashi's, Sorachi's and Hara's comments on their tributes. Togashi basically said thank you for creating Dragon Ball as reading it himself motivated him to write and draw non-stop and he was moved to tears by it (ironic since he ended YYH without said enthusiasm and is now Mr. Hiatus lol), Sorachi said he loved people who lost like Yamcha....but f**k Vegeta for taking "our" (in this case, his) Bulma . Hara had an interesting one, he respects Toriyama so much that he would like to work with him on a series (don't know if Hara's manly style can lend itself to someone who's comedy oriented like Toriyama....then again he drew Ryo Saeba with a raging erection )
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SaiyanZ wrote:I was able to get supposed translations for Togashi's, Sorachi's and Hara's comments on their tributes. Togashi basically said thank you for creating Dragon Ball as reading it himself motivated him to write and draw non-stop and he was moved to tears by it (ironic since he ended YYH without said enthusiasm and is now Mr. Hiatus lol), Sorachi said he loved people who lost like Yamcha....but f**k Vegeta for taking "our" (in this case, his) Bulma .
I was glady surprised by how nice (and ironic) Togashi's comment was. Already read some of his interviews and I was caught off guard by that.
His evil Goku was one of my favourites.
I hadn't read Sorachi's comment yet, but that one feels 100% from him. That sir never fails to make me laugh.
Does anybody know where I can get this? Also it does come in English as well right?
"I was born in a small village. I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers. Foreign soldiers. Torn from my elders, I was made to speak their language. With each new post my masters changed. Along with the words they made me speak. With each change, I changed too. My thoughts, personality, how I saw right and wrong. Words - can - kill." —Skull Face
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:I just finished to watch the "unboxing" and yes it looks pretty interesting, do Kanzenshuu staff have plans to translate it entirely?
That'd be an incredibly extensive task and legally questionable. I wouldn't hold your breath on that.
'Multiculturalism means nothing in Japan, for every outside culture must pass first through the Japanese filter, rendering it entirely Japanese in the process.' - Julian Cope.
FortuneSSJ wrote:- I see. So then after that, Goku grew up…
- I got a lot of pushback on that at the time. Apparently in shōnen manga changing what the main character looked like was a big no-no, but I didn’t care about that. His head/body ratio made fighting hard, so I said that if the series was going to start focusing more on battles, then I needed to make him an adult. But this really shocked them: “The series has finally gotten popular, and now you want to go and change everything!” That was the kind of reaction I got.
Already knew about this, but read it again just makes me glad. Screw shonen tropes, that's the way to go!
I'm glad Toriyama keeps doing his own thing. Goku the main character not winning once in BOG, a shonen theatrical movie, felt so fresh. The good middle finger.
To this day, change the main characters' looks is a big no no in shonen, for obvious reasons. Now when you think about back then, even changing outfits was a taboo! That only makes Toriyama more impressive in retrospect.
Is that the concept design of #18? That's really intriguing. She certainly had a much more western wardrobe and appearance in the concept art.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Could also just be concept art for the new outfit she had to wear after her clothes wore torn in the fight against Vegeta.
That's what I thought, when I saw it.
Then again it is kind of funny, if he originally had designed her with that attire, but scrapped it, only to give it to her later on anyways.
. Hara had an interesting one, he respects Toriyama so much that he would like to work with him on a series (don't know if Hara's manly style can lend itself to someone who's comedy oriented like Toriyama....then again he drew Ryo Saeba with a raging erection 
