Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
The manga version seems worse than the anime version. In here her nipples are clearly visible (how did Viz handle this scene?) In the anime it goes by very fast, the only way to get close to her naughty bits is going frame by frame, and even then it's not all seen.
Robo4900 wrote:Mouse is BRILLIANT SCIENTIST dumb.
CAT LOVES FOOD dumb.
Jack is just kinda dumb.
Spoiler:
It's believable someone would name a mouse Jack.
It's not at all believable someone would call a mouse Mouse.
Takes you straight out of the experience.
Neither line is good, but Funi's is so much worse [when compared to Blue Water's].
In its original red Shonen Jump printing release, it was uncensored. I have that one. Later on, when they started getting more timid, they actually went to the trouble of drawing a fairly ornate bra on her.
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Best Goku : Pilaf - Namek
Best Vegeta : Saiyan -Namek
Gohan - Saiyan - Namek
Piccolo -Saiyan
Yamcha - Pilaf arc
Tenshinhan - 22nd
Roshi - 21st arc - Piccolo Daimao
Krillin' - 21st - Saiyan
Bulma - Pilaf - Baba
Chaozu - barely a character lmao
Goten and Kid Trunks both suck = plot devices for Gotenks/They lack depth
Cell - Imperfect Form easily.
Mr Satan -Buu Saga (one of the best in the entire arc but not enough to excuse the sloppy/shitty writing the arc was plagued with).
Cipher wrote:Best Freeza: Golden Freeza
Worst Freeza: Hot Mauve Freeza
Huh?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Best Goku : Pilaf/21st TB
Best Vegeta : Namek (entertaining balance of the villain in the Saiyan Arc with the anti-hero of later plots)
Gohan - Saiyan (loved his arc here, especially with the filler wilderness training)
Piccolo -Saiyan (Like Gohan, his arc here was excellent and made an already great villain into an unquestioned fan-favorite)
Yamcha - 22nd TB (All the characterization built around him culminated here before he started being used as ineffective comedic relief)
Tenshinhan - 22nd TB
Roshi - 21st TB and training
Krillin' - 23rd TB/Saiyan (not much difference in character between these arcs, so i lump them together. For me he was likeable before and irritating after this period, which showcased the sustained drive he had as a kid along with the skills and personality that were expanded from that point)
Bulma - Pilaf (the only arc where she's not along for the ride, but a driving force)
Puar - Baba (he's a static character both here and in Pilaf, but I find his scenes to be more memorable in the Baba arc more than the ones featured in the Pilaf arc)
Oolong - Pilaf (no other option really, but he was funny)
Chaozu - 22nd TB (He was very entertaining here. The only other arc in which he shows personality is Saiyan, but beyond his excellent moment of sacrifice he barely registers.)
Launch - 22nd/23rd TB (When her blonde form had leveled out a bit but was still violent enough to make good gags)
Chi-Chi - Saiyan (I liked her evolution into an overprotective mother and the most sympathetic version of that was in this arc)
Cell - Imperfect (no doubt)
Freeza- 4th Form
Videl- Great Saiyaman
Mr Satan -Buu Saga (one of the best in the entire arc but not enough to excuse the sloppy/shitty writing the arc was plagued with).
Goku
Best: Probably all of the arcs in the manga.
Worst: I don't have an actual in universe worse, so old FUNimation dub Goku.
Vegeta
Best: Majin Boo arc and GT. I'm probably one of the few that loves his GT incarnation. Both design(Episode 25 onward) and personality.
Worst: Artificial Human/Cell arc. Too whiny and his newly acquired Super Saiyan form gives him this huge ego. I'm glad #18 and Cell gave him the whoop down he deserved.
Gohan
Best: Saiyan - Namek arc, and beginning of Buu arc up until Mystic/Ultimate Gohan becomes worthless.
Worst: Super. Despite having a career, they still make him fight and prove how worthless he is in battle from inexperience. If it wasn't for Episode 27, I'd rather not see his face than him attempting to help out if he ain't gonna train to at least protect his loved ones. Even then, with Episode 27, I'm taking that promise he made with a grain of salt until he gets something out of it.
Trunks
Best: Future.
Worst: Kid (Present). Annoying. I actually like his GT self to a degree.
Chi-Chi
Best: 23rd Budokai. Waifu material, right there.
Worst: Super. As if you thought she was annoying in Z already(she really wasn't that bad, but Super.. oh boy)
Piccolo
Best: Saiyan arc. Love the development he had throughout. Sacrificing himself for Gohan just gets my heart going.
Worst: 23rd Budokai and Buu arc.
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