4:3 vs 16:9 poll

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4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:45 pm

Which Dragon Ball Z Blu-ray release interests you?

1. 16:9 (cropped)
2. 4:3 (original aspect ratio)
3. I'm not interested at all

Feel free to vote: http://strawpoll.me/6610621
VegettoEX wrote:Not enough context.

Are you talking about something produced in one aspect ratio and then changed to another? Something that has never been produced at all and is being considered for one or the other?
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:12 pm

Not enough context.

Are you talking about something produced in one aspect ratio and then changed to another? Something that has never been produced at all and is being considered for one or the other?
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:18 pm

The poll is not in English.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Haji » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:43 pm

From what i can understand in the poll, i would like to have the original 4:3 in blu-ray.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:44 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:The poll is not in English.
I guess that you understand the needed minimum :P

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:52 pm

Easy - 4:3 for old shows, 16:9 for new.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by clutchins » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:23 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Not enough context.

Are you talking about something produced in one aspect ratio and then changed to another? Something that has never been produced at all and is being considered for one or the other?
You're right.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:31 pm

It would have to be its original aspect ratio for it to even begin to interest me.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:33 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Easy - 4:3 for old shows, 16:9 for new.
Pretty much.

I'm fine with watching 4:3 for old shows (including Dragon Ball) on HD TVs with the black bars because it preserves the footage as it was meant to be seen (square as opposed to rectangular) and keeps all the important information in the frame. For old shows you get this with 4:3 blu-rays, but not the 16:9 ones because in that case parts of the frame are cut out in the process, which can't even be changed by adjusting the settings on your TV (perfect example being the Funimation DBZ Season sets).

Nowadays 16:9 is the standard, but I'm also fine watching anything that way if its how it was produced, though I'd be happy to watch a new show in 4:3 if only for an experiment.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Luso Saiyan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:18 pm

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by danielsan_190196 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:21 pm

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Man-Child » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:38 pm

I still have one SD tv at home, so buying a 16:9 release of the show just for the sake of "filling up the tv screen" has never been an option for me. Even when using my hdtv, I still prefer the original aspect ratio of Dragon Ball, as that was the intended way to watch the show. Cropping, DNR, and oversaturation look terrible imo, and it's a shame that those flaws are the standard for home releases.

Even with the movies, I prefer 4:3. I know that technically those films were intended to be watched in widescreen, but I still find the images cramped in comparison to the full 4:3 picture.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by trick007z » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:27 am

Depends. The orange brick crops were horrendous and actively hurt the experience. It feels like you are looking at something out of a peephole. The Bluray crops were far less offensive, and while noticeable in some areas don't gut the scenes. I'm not too much of a stickler so whatever looks best. If I can get it on my entire screen and still have 95%-100% of the original image, I'm fine.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:18 am

Never. I repeat, NEVER alter a product's original aspect ratio. If it's animated in 4:3, keep it in 4:3 across all it's releases and the same applies for 16:9. Altering aspect ratios from its native ratio is a horrible practice especially when it comes to shows originally animated in 4:3

Try watching any of the 4:3 Simpson episodes on Fox's HD channel and watch how butchered the picture gets.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Vegard Aune » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:20 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Never. I repeat, NEVER alter a product's original aspect ratio. If it's animated in 4:3, keep it in 4:3 across all it's releases and the same applies for 16:9. Altering aspect ratios from its native ratio is a horrible practice especially when it comes to shows originally animated in 4:3

Try watching any of the 4:3 Simpson episodes on Fox's HD channel and watch how butchered the picture gets.
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Black bars? I don't give a damn. Heck, most movies nowadays don't fit your average TV either due to their even wider screen format... 2.35:1 or something? In any case, I'll take those with the black bars on the top and bottom too, thank you very much. About the only times where the aspect ratio of a work will bother me, is in stuff like Interstellar which goes back and forth between two different aspect ratios depending on whether the scene was shot in IMAX or not... Like, really Christopher Nolan, was it too much to ask that you keep the aspect ratio consistent even if you couldn't film the entire movie in IMAX? Surely non-IMAX cameras are still capable of shooting in 16:9?

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Man-Child wrote:Even with the movies, I prefer 4:3. I know that technically those films were intended to be watched in widescreen, but I still find the images cramped in comparison to the full 4:3 picture.
Can you remind me from where this info came from? If you ask me, I don't think that early movies (DB1-3, DBZ1-3) were meant to be seen in 16:9: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/110232 - looks like random center crop.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by DB1984 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:24 pm

In the full-screen transfer of DBZ Movie 1, there is a lot of empty space during the music credits of the intro.

When cropped, all of that empty space is filled up.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:00 pm

DB1984 wrote:In the full-screen transfer of DBZ Movie 1, there is a lot of empty space during the music credits of the intro.

When cropped, all of that empty space is filled up.
Some shots from DBZ Movie 1:
1. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160778
2. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160779
3. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160780
4. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160781

What do you think?

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by DB1984 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:01 pm

The cropped images are fine, though I think the first image could have been adjusted a bit.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:16 pm

May I ask what the point of this is? You know exactly what the results are going to be.

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