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Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by WittyUsername » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:07 pm

It started off as a gag in BOG, but with the recent arc with Future Trunks, it seems like it's something that either Toriyama or Toei are trying to push. It just makes me wonder, why? Is this all just based on that one gag from Battle of Gods? If so, that's actually kind of creepy when you take into account the fact that Mai is technically an adult...

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:13 pm

I'm pretty sure Toriyama created that as a gag. Toei made it a serious thing for this arc. I'm almost positive that was their idea, not Toriyama's.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:17 pm

What's wrong with it? I mean, I kinda get the complaints with Mai x kid Trunks, considering Mai's mental age, but 1. this is an anime, and 2. it's not like she's very mature to begin with. Mai x Future Trunks should be no problem whatsoever, they're both old enough to do whatever they want.
fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm pretty sure Toriyama created that as a gag. Toei made it a serious thing for this arc. I'm almost positive that was their idea, not Toriyama's.
I'm sure it was Toriyama's idea, considering Toei completely scrapped the MaixTrunks relationship in the retellings, I doubt they'd be so inconsistent, even for Toei's standards, to just bring it back like that. Toriyama also wrote a comment by Mai in F saying Trunks was her boyfriend, so it's not like he only used it as a gag in BoG and then never touched upon it again.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:25 pm

I didn't know he pushed for that in F. I can imagine Toei not liking the gag, but liking the idea of an actual relationship. Just seems more up their alley.

I don't have anything against the relationship, myself. It is, however, the most random pairing in DB. And this is the series where BulmaxVegeta became a thing.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:32 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I don't have anything against the relationship, myself. It is, however, the most random pairing in DB. And this is the series where BulmaxVegeta became a thing.
At least we got to see the relationship somewhat developing with Trunks and Mai meeting in BoG and then bonding throughout the film. With Bulma and Vegeta, they're enemies at one point, then you have a time-skip and they suddenly have a kid. You didn't get any of the bonding.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by WittyUsername » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:37 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I didn't know he pushed for that in F. I can imagine Toei not liking the gag, but liking the idea of an actual relationship. Just seems more up their alley.
I guess considering that they seemed to have no problem sexualizing a 10 year old in GT, you might be onto something...

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:39 pm

It's fiction. Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon. Trunks x Mai is as random and unexpected as Vegeta x Blooma. Combine all three and you get something to write a new story about.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Hero » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:09 am

I love Future Trunks x Future Mai, because it shows that Trunks found some sort of happiness after defeating the Androids. Yeah, he had Bulma, but he had no friends and Gohan was dead, so there was definitely a lot missing from his life socially. Him getting a girlfriend that loves him back, from what I can tell, makes me smile.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by MozillaVulpix » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:25 am

Because Future Trunks never ended up with someone and I guess somebody decided that was something that could be rectified.

I'm interested to see if/how this arc handles romance. It's something the series doesn't do very often.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:24 am

From what little I saw, I like Future Trunks and Future Mai a lot more than I do Kid Trunks and Kid Mai. The former meshes better personality-wise imo.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:13 am

Future Mai seems like she is a 60 year old in a 30 year old body. It may be odd that a 60 year old being with a 30 year old, but they are both 18 and above. It's better than 20 something GT Trunks shipping with a 9 year old girl (Pan).
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:27 am

Because Mai has discovered the fountain of youth and looks younger at ~50 than she did at ~20. Meanwhile Trunks ages super slow and looks the same at ~13-14 as he did when he was 8. Even though when future Trunks was that age he looked, you know, that age.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Gonstead » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:30 am

JulieYBM wrote:It's fiction. Otaku like lolicon and shoutacon.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by LordCrumb » Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:17 am

Push? it's been one episode... and she died.

Should be in the Super discussion subforum.

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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by SSJ YUSUKE » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:10 am

It's probably the only relationship that makes sense in the whole series. Just from this episode when they interact you can see that they both have affection for each other.
When Trunks and Mai interact I can believe that they could be in a relationship or at least have genuine affection for each other, like the scene where they are about to leave for capsule corp it's a tense scene but for second it is broken by the cat meowing past them which eases the tension and for a second they look at each other and you can see that maybe if things were not so messed up they would probably be together. The way Trunks reacts when she "dies"( come on, she's going to have major role in this arc) just emphasises how much she means to him.
Anyone who believes the GokuXChiChi or VegetaXBulma makes more sense is either too young or knows nothing about relationships.

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:38 am

SSJ YUSUKE wrote:It's probably the only relationship that makes sense in the whole series. Just from this episode when they interact you can see that they both have affection for each other.
When Trunks and Mai interact I can believe that they could be in a relationship or at least have genuine affection for each other, like the scene where they are about to leave for capsule corp it's a tense scene but for second it is broken by the cat meowing past them which eases the tension and for a second they look at each other and you can see that maybe if things were not so messed up they would probably be together. The way Trunks reacts when she "dies"( come on, she's going to have major role in this arc) just emphasises how much she means to him.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:30 am

Miyazaki is a lolicon, he's just too stuck in his old ways to admit it. He only became an animator because he fell in love with a two dimensional girl as a teenager. Now he repeats the trauma.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:17 am

I wouldn't say 'pushed' it, so much as it seems like that might actually be the endgame so they're realizing 'well crap, we'd better try to pseudo-develop it a bit actually'. At least, I hope that's the case, because I find the pairing to be adorable.

I mean, I kinda sorta see the issue with them in the main timeline, but 1) it's fictional, nowhere near the same thing as if it was happening in reality, and 2) Mai and the Pilaf gang have always been portrayed as being very childish more than being like adults, so that removes quite a bit of the 'ick' factor for me as well. With the future versions of the character though? Trunks is an adult at that point. Thus, I don't care if he wanted to hook up with Mai and Mai was actually physically 80 something. They're both beyond the age of consent, and thus no matter how it looks to the outside world, they would be well within their right to live their lives however they see fit. Just how I see it at any rate.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:42 am

I see it as entirely possible that the Pilaf gang are mentally children as well, despite having all their memories. They wished for youth, but this may have been a mental transformation as well as a physical one. Not that they were particularly matured mentally to begin with.

As for her age in the Future Timeline.... are people assuming the same wish wasn't made in that timeline? They may have simply made it at a different time, before Piccolo was killed.... meaning she may be physically about seven years older than Trunks.
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Re: Why do they seem to be pushing Mai x Trunks?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:55 am

WittyUsername wrote:It started off as a gag in BOG.
Like how Vegeta acting OOC went from a one time thing to save his family to him acting like that all the time.
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