Do colors matter?
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Re: Do colors matter?
I don't really care about Trunks hair color change in Super but color in general matters to me. For instance, I can't watch any remaster/kai/hd also because they changed all the color tone, making it brighter and such, I think it removes something. Hopefully I have old original versions at home.
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I am used to change of colour palettes. Being a Saint Seiya fan, you have to be tolerant a lot.
I don't mind Trunks hair that much, as clearly, in Super, the colour range and palette is different from Dragon Ball and Z for various reasons.
TOEI is also kinda famous for changing hair colours (most notably in Hokuto No Ken).
So his hair probably have the same colour as in Z, plotwise, but the physical colour we see changed technically.
What is jarring tough and I had a little problem with was actually having both Trunkses in Z with the same colour, that was lavender.
Kid Trunks, retained this colour even tough his character sheet had the bluish, like Future Trunks.
But, Future Trunks got the colour from the character sheet. Now, you have two people, who are actually the same, with different hair.
Also, Bulma adressing guy with blue hair was weird.
What is weirdest, that Z actually had and Super (Kid Trunks) has the colour of Trunks wrong for all the years. Because in manga and probably Toriyama's mind,
Trunks has the same colour his mother has, purple. In that case, when Dragon Ball and Z had Bulma with blue hair, probably for the sake of colour palette,
they should've made Trunks with the same colour as her. But they reverted back to manga, because imagine Trunks with Bulma's Z colour, that would be pretty weird!
I don't mind Trunks hair that much, as clearly, in Super, the colour range and palette is different from Dragon Ball and Z for various reasons.
TOEI is also kinda famous for changing hair colours (most notably in Hokuto No Ken).
So his hair probably have the same colour as in Z, plotwise, but the physical colour we see changed technically.
What is jarring tough and I had a little problem with was actually having both Trunkses in Z with the same colour, that was lavender.
Kid Trunks, retained this colour even tough his character sheet had the bluish, like Future Trunks.
But, Future Trunks got the colour from the character sheet. Now, you have two people, who are actually the same, with different hair.
Also, Bulma adressing guy with blue hair was weird.
What is weirdest, that Z actually had and Super (Kid Trunks) has the colour of Trunks wrong for all the years. Because in manga and probably Toriyama's mind,
Trunks has the same colour his mother has, purple. In that case, when Dragon Ball and Z had Bulma with blue hair, probably for the sake of colour palette,
they should've made Trunks with the same colour as her. But they reverted back to manga, because imagine Trunks with Bulma's Z colour, that would be pretty weird!
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Re: Do colors matter?
For a time, I thought I was color-blind because I used to think that I saw Future Trunks having blue hair. This was early 2000's. GT came along and I was like, "When did Trunks dye his hair purple/light pink?" For so many years, I just wasn't sure what his hair color was originally.
I find out about Toriyama's forgetful nature and that in the anime, it is definitely a light shade of pink. Also, I've made it my own head canon that the color is the result of some weird hybrid side-effect of Saiyan/Human alleles. There we go, end of story.
More than a decade later, a new Dragon Ball anime is made, Toei decides to bring back Trunks, and BLUE is what they chose!?!? It's such a forced retcon that they didn't even lube it up to swallow. Do they think we're that stupid? Are they THAT lazy!?
I can ignore it now but it's just so obviously different than what we saw in Z. Heck, I could have accepted some kind of aging explanation, but they didn't even do that!
I find out about Toriyama's forgetful nature and that in the anime, it is definitely a light shade of pink. Also, I've made it my own head canon that the color is the result of some weird hybrid side-effect of Saiyan/Human alleles. There we go, end of story.
More than a decade later, a new Dragon Ball anime is made, Toei decides to bring back Trunks, and BLUE is what they chose!?!? It's such a forced retcon that they didn't even lube it up to swallow. Do they think we're that stupid? Are they THAT lazy!?
I can ignore it now but it's just so obviously different than what we saw in Z. Heck, I could have accepted some kind of aging explanation, but they didn't even do that!
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Re: Do colors matter?
Dragon Box or the orange bricks ? Because if it's the latter, those are the farthest away from the original colors.PsionicWarrior wrote:I don't really care about Trunks hair color change in Super but color in general matters to me. For instance, I can't watch any remaster/kai/hd also because they changed all the color tone, making it brighter and such, I think it removes something. Hopefully I have old original versions at home.
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I'm color blind, so it probably wouldn't have mattered to me... except for the fact that it's different from Present Trunks! If both were purple, great. If they changed their mind, had a management shift, or any other reason that ended up with them blue, also fine, albeit a little annoying in principle. But to have one version of the same person have purple hair while another version of the same person who used to have purple hair now has blue hair, it's very distracting! It calls attention to itself and in such an obvious, how-did-they-screw-this-up kind of way. I mean, they're in scenes together. The staff had to have noticed. Honestly, it's about as ridiculously inconsistent as it would be if Karin showed up and was half white, half blue. We know there's an inconsistency. We get it. But now you're just going out of your way to highlight it!
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Re: Do colors matter?
I'm not bothered by colors changing at all. I'm a big fan of JoJo and have learned to just ignore the color of characters. My most frequent exposure to Dragon Ball growing up was the manga so I barely even think of some characters as having color to them. If Toriyama thinks Trunks would look better with blue hair in his new outfit then that's fine with me, I actually agree.
To repost what I once said on the subreddit:
It's hard to really care about any color change in Dragon Ball. Bulma's hair is blue in the anime and purple in the manga, except when it's not. Same for Piccolo's pink/yellow spots. Vegeta's hair still fluctuates between black, brown, and purple. Super Saiyan is sometimes gold/orange and sometimes it's light blonde. Hell, every color in the show changes depending on the release.
To repost what I once said on the subreddit:
It's hard to really care about any color change in Dragon Ball. Bulma's hair is blue in the anime and purple in the manga, except when it's not. Same for Piccolo's pink/yellow spots. Vegeta's hair still fluctuates between black, brown, and purple. Super Saiyan is sometimes gold/orange and sometimes it's light blonde. Hell, every color in the show changes depending on the release.
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Re: Do colors matter?
As if muscle mass has that much meaning in a show like Dragon Ball.Bansho64 wrote:It really does matter for me. Trunks' hair color has been a bit of a staple for the character. He was the mysterious purple-haired from the future when we saw him and and I don't see a reason why they would change it in the first place. It just feels so redundant to me. But it's not THAT big of a deal to me. Besides, that's not even the biggest problem I have with his appearance. It's his freaking muscle mass that set me off. Or to be specific, that lack of muscle mass. What the heck happened to that!?
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Not really, from a artist perspective, it's nice to change it up every now and then. Though attack colours do matter so it's not confusing and can diffirentiate what's what.
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Re: Do colors matter?
Um, ok? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Also, I maybe that comment a while back. Are you trying to antagonize me? (Not very good at telling people's intentions)Freeza9000 wrote: As if muscle mass has that much meaning in a show like Dragon Ball.
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No, I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just saying that muscles in DB does not mean shit and that's the truth proven in the series.Bansho64 wrote:Um, ok? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Also, I maybe that comment a while back. Are you trying to antagonize me? (Not very good at telling people's intentions)Freeza9000 wrote: As if muscle mass has that much meaning in a show like Dragon Ball.
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I'm still getting a negative vibe but that may just be my own sensitivity. My apologies, I try not to start anything with anyone if I don't have too. I'm not sure if you're referring to muscle mass in terms of power or just purely for looks. I was mainly talking about how he looks with muscle. Because he looks good with it to me. I wasn't referring to his actual power at all.Freeza9000 wrote: No, I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm just saying that muscles in DB does not mean shit and that's the truth proven in the series.
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I just like consistency, colours included.
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You criticized the lack of muscle mass in Trunks. In response, he stated that muscle doesn't mean anything in Dragon Ball, as it has been demonstrated many times. That's all.Bansho64 wrote: I'm still getting a negative vibe but that may just be my own sensitivity. My apologies, I try not to start anything with anyone if I don't have too. I'm not sure if you're referring to muscle mass in terms of power or just purely for looks. I was mainly talking about how he looks with muscle. Because he looks good with it to me. I wasn't referring to his actual power at all.
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I was mainly criticising it because I thought Trunks looked cool with it. I wasn't sure what he meant when he said it doesn't mean anything in Dragon Ball. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to make a big deal of this. Please forgive me. I can be really stupid sometimes and I just can't help it.rereboy wrote: You criticized the lack of muscle mass in Trunks. In response, he stated that muscle doesn't mean anything in Dragon Ball, as it has been demonstrated many times. That's all.
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Well there are times where the kamehameha is yellow... But yeah, I do agree that it gets weird at times. I remember being puzzled by Goku's tan skin in GT, the yellow kamehamehas, vegeta's hair and more even as a kid. I like consistency in general.
You guys were simply talking about two different things. He's saying muscles doesn't matter when it comes to power and technique in- universe. You're saying it looks better which is an out of universe subject. None of you are really wrong or at fault. Don't apologize so much.I was mainly criticising it because I thought Trunks looked cool with it. I wasn't sure what he meant when he said it doesn't mean anything in Dragon Ball. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to make a big deal of this. Please forgive me. I can be really stupid sometimes and I just can't help it.
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If Trunks lost a lot of muscle mass that he previously possessed, that's a big inconsistency. It's a valid complaint, just as valid as complaining about the hair, he's not saying everyone in Dragon Ball should be a musclebound beefcake with rock n roll and explosions. He's merely pointing out the fact that a character's design has changed.Freeza9000 wrote:As if muscle mass has that much meaning in a show like Dragon Ball.Bansho64 wrote:It really does matter for me. Trunks' hair color has been a bit of a staple for the character. He was the mysterious purple-haired from the future when we saw him and and I don't see a reason why they would change it in the first place. It just feels so redundant to me. But it's not THAT big of a deal to me. Besides, that's not even the biggest problem I have with his appearance. It's his freaking muscle mass that set me off. Or to be specific, that lack of muscle mass. What the heck happened to that!?
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Yeah where does this guy think he is? In real life? We're on an Internet forum baby, apologizing is for bitches.kinisking wrote:Well there are times where the kamehameha is yellow... But yeah, I do agree that it gets weird at times. I remember being puzzled by Goku's tan skin in GT, the yellow kamehamehas, vegeta's hair and more even as a kid. I like consistency in general.
You guys were simply talking about two different things. He's saying muscles doesn't matter when it comes to power and technique in- universe. You're saying it looks better which is an out of universe subject. None of you are really wrong or at fault. Don't apologize so much.I was mainly criticising it because I thought Trunks looked cool with it. I wasn't sure what he meant when he said it doesn't mean anything in Dragon Ball. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to make a big deal of this. Please forgive me. I can be really stupid sometimes and I just can't help it.
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Alright. I won't do it anymore.nickzambuto wrote: Yeah where does this guy think he is? In real life? We're on an Internet forum baby, apologizing is for bitches.
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I was just kidding buddy. There's nothing wrong with apologizing.Bansho64 wrote:Alright. I won't do it anymore.nickzambuto wrote: Yeah where does this guy think he is? In real life? We're on an Internet forum baby, apologizing is for bitches.
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Oh crap, my bad. It's kinda hard for me to tell when someone's joking. But yeah, my original post was mainly me trying to state that I feel that Trunks looked better when he had some muscle on him. I wasn't referring to his power. In any case, I feel like this whole thing was just a misunderstanding on my part. I take full responsibility for it.nickzambuto wrote: I was just kidding buddy. There's nothing wrong with apologizing.