How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

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How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Hero » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:38 pm

You know how when fighters, whether it be MMA, Boxing, or any fighting sport, are ready to fight, they show their wins and losses.

Example: Mike Tyson 50 - 6 (50 wins to 6 losses).

What would Goku's record be?

First thing needed to solve this is a list of every one of his manga fights, along with the result. To make things simpler, we'll only include shown fights, and fights against opponents who posed a threat or were assumed to pose a threat. So his preliminary fights for the Tenkaichi Budokai don't count, except the one against King Chappa in the third tournament . And beating random Red Ribbon Army soldiers don't count.

The Fights- Dragon Ball:

- Goku vs. Yamcha: LOSS

- Goku vs. Giran: WIN

- Goku vs. Nam: WIN

- Goku vs. Jackie Chun: LOSS

- Goku vs. Colonel Silver: WIN

- Goku vs. Major Metallitron: WIN

- Goku vs. Murasaki: WIN

- Goku vs. Buyon: WIN

- Goku vs. General Blue: LOSS, saved by rat.

- Goku vs. General Blue II: LOSS, saved by Arale.

- Goku vs. Tao: LOSS

- Goku vs. Tao II: WIN

- Goku vs. King Chappa: WIN

- Goku vs. Pamput: WIN

- Goku vs. Krillin: WIN

- Goku vs. Tenshinhan: LOSS

- Goku vs. Tambourine: LOSS

- Goku vs. Tambourine II: WIN

- Goku vs. King Piccolo: LOSS

-Goku vs. King Piccolo II: WIN

- Goku vs. King Chappa II: WIN

- Goku vs. Chi Chi: WIN

- Goku vs. Tenshinhan II: WIN

- Goku vs. Piccolo Jr.: WIN

Goku has a 16 - 8 record in Dragon Ball.


The Fights - Dragon Ball Z:

Goku vs. Raditz: LOSS

Goku and Piccolo Jr. vs. Raditz: LOSS, needed Piccolo.

Goku vs. Nappa: WIN

Goku vs. Vegeta: LOSS. Vegeta would have won if Krillin and Gohan didn't come back.

Goku vs. Recoome: WIN

Goku vs. Jeice and Burter: WIN

Goku vs. Captain Ginyu: LOSS, lost his body.

Goku vs. Frieza: WIN, but used steroids.

Goku vs. Android 19: LOSS, was sick with diverticulitis (waits for someone to get the reference)

Goku vs. Cell: LOSS

Goku vs. Cell Junior: LOSS

Goku vs. Yakon: WIN

Goku vs. Fat Buu: TIE. Said he could have won, but withdrew from the match.

Goku vs. Buttenks: LOSS. Would have lost without fusing.

Goku vs. Kid Buu: LOSS. Yes, he would have lost without the Genki Dama.

That puts his DBZ record at 3 - 9 - 2 and his overall record at 19 - 17 - 2.

That's worse than many professional fighters, now that I think about it. Any major fights I missed out on?
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Doctor. » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:42 pm

In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:55 pm

I'm not sure you can give him a win vs Radditz and a loss vs Vegeta. He would have lost both without the other people involved and both ended with him not winning but getting his way. I'm not sure he beat Radditz an more than he beat Vegeta honestly.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Hero » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:57 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm not sure you can give him a win vs Radditz and a loss vs Vegeta. He would have lost both without the other people involved and both ended with him not winning but getting his way. I'm not sure he beat Radditz an more than he beat Vegeta honestly.
True, I'm giving him another loss.

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Nejishiki » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:10 pm

You will love this thread. It doesn't account for anything post-2009, but it's a great start.

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by kinisking » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:04 pm

Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
He didn't lose against Golden Freeza... He had clearly won without outside interference. Sorbet helped.How is that Freeza's win at all? If he lost that, then a lot of his losses need to be turned to wins because the Z-fighters helped.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Draconic » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:17 pm

kinisking wrote:
Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
He didn't lose against Golden Freeza... He had clearly won without outside interference. Sorbet helped.How is that Freeza's win at all? If he lost that, then a lot of his losses need to be turned to wins because the Z-fighters helped.
But the only time he had any big help was against Raditz and Vegeta, both ending with him disabled from the fight. Freeza kept standing after Sorbet helped him, got his ass kicked by Vegeta, but ultimately won that too. Goku's team whenever he wins, ends with him incapacitated and as good as dead if help isn't around. Freeza on the other, like I said above, would have still beaten everybody by himself and pretty much did.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:28 pm

You're forgetting his fight with Majin Vegeta, which he lost. It was a cheap shot by Vegeta, but he still lost.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Rubens » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:55 pm

Goku fought Yamcha twice: he lost the first time because he was hungry and in the next morning he fought Yamcha again and won.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Bullza » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:33 pm

Yeah be beat Yamcha when they fought the second time and Goku wasn't handicapped.

On top of that he also beat...

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by qjz123 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:36 pm

Hero wrote:
That puts his DBZ record at 3 - 9 - 2 and his overall record at 19 - 17 - 2.

That's worse than many professional fighters, now that I think about it. Any major fights I missed out on?
While his record may not be the best there is a big difference between him and real life Profesional fighters.

As the story progresses Goku clearly becomes much stronger than many of his opponents to the point where it's obvious to both so a rematch to gauge his improvement aren't really necessary.

In real life people don't go SS and instantly multiply their power by 50x.

So if Jon Jones for example were to lose to someone we'd need a rematch to figure out whether it was a fluke or not.

That isn't really necessary with say Raditz for example. Yeah Goku lost to him but who cares? He's obvious canon fodder now.

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by dbs fanboy » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:00 pm

Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

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22 - 21 - 3
Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super :lol:, but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:42 pm

Goku won almost all of his fights in GT expect for General Rildo (Probably would have won if Pan didn't step in) and Bebi Vegeta twice.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:48 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Goku won almost all of his fights in GT expect for General Rildo (Probably would have won if Pan didn't step in) and Bebi Vegeta twice.
A fair few of them were "Z victories" where he only wins because someone else jumps in to help him. Baby, Super 17 and Omega all would've killed him if it wasn't for other people helping him out.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:53 pm

True, but he still won by the end of the day though.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:33 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:
Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super :lol:, but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?
I think the fight being undecided is kinda the same thing as a tie.

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:47 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
dbs fanboy wrote:
Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:

Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing

2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super :lol:, but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?
I think the fight being undecided is kinda the same thing as a tie.
Nah, a tie is more objective, i.e. reaching a time limit, double knockout, both competitors admit defeat, etc. Black got sucked back to Future Trunks' timeline before an objective conclusion could be reached.

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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?

Post by Friezacooler » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:19 am

Goku wasn't the only one getting powered up from outside sources the villians were too whether it was db, dbz or dbgt I can't recall an major villian that didn't use outside source except Frieza, Broly and Janemba maybe Hildegarn. The rest are cheats.

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Post by Snow_Lilies » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:07 pm

Hero wrote: Goku and Piccolo Jr. vs. Raditz: LOSS, needed Piccolo.

Goku vs. Kid Buu: LOSS. Yes, he would have lost without the Genki Dama.
I agree that the first one is a loss, but I find fault with the reasoning. Along this train of thought, Goku "lost" as soon as the fight started since he and Piccolo agreed to fight together from the start. I'd more say he lost because he died at the end of it, though I suppose even then he stayed alive longer than Raditz did after getting hit.

The second one is a bit harder. I understand that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes help for it, but I don't think I can justify it with this other thought-experiment. If Goku had beaten Freeza with the Genki Dama on Namek would that also have been considered a loss? He was clearly outmatched and on his way to losing before using it.

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:53 pm

Snow_Lilies wrote:The second one is a bit harder. I understand that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes help for it, but I don't think I can justify it with this other thought-experiment. If Goku had beaten Freeza with the Genki Dama on Namek would that also have been considered a loss? He was clearly outmatched and on his way to losing before using it.
I think the Kid Boo one is more objective. Goku literally tagged out and Vegeta and Mr. Boo fought in his place, and then when it was Goku's turn to come back and fight, SS3 backfired on him and he almost passed out. Ultimately he "won" with a cheap-shot. Whilst with Freeza, it was always Freeza vs Goku with one sneak-attack from Piccolo, plus Freeza was always aware of the Genkidama, Boo only became aware at the end.

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