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Re: Kanzenshuu Members Favorite Series.

Post by Draconic » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:40 pm

Dragon Ball, cause Buu Kai is trash.

Z because Kai is just Z with less content and worse acting and music.
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Post by simtek34 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:51 pm

Draconic wrote:Z because Kai is just Z with less content and worse acting and music.
Care to explain why?


And please don't make this thread a Z vs Kai debate.
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Post by kinisking » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:57 pm

I hate that you averaged boo Kai and regular Kai. Really puts Kai at a disadvantage. Now I don't want to vote for it even though I prefer Kai to Z.

DragonBall, and dbz for my votes.
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Re: Kanzenshuu Members Favorite Series.

Post by Draconic » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:08 pm

simtek34 wrote:
Draconic wrote:Z because Kai is just Z with less content and worse acting and music.
Care to explain why?


And please don't make this thread a Z vs Kai debate.
You can skip most filler in Z, but some of it is cool so that's the extra content.
The acting is worse because the cast is past their prime and also fatigued from already doing this same material over and over for almost a decade even before Kai debuted.
Yammamuro's score is worse than Kikuchi's, which is perfect, but even with Kikuchi score the music placement is crap.
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Post by laserkid » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:11 pm

Dragon Ball, because it will always be my favorite period.

Dragon Ball Z Kai, I love DBZ, but Kai in my opinion perfected it by removing a lot of pacing issues Z had.
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Post by WobbuSleuth » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:23 pm

Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.

I don't like Kai at all, and can't understand why some people love it. But everyone has own preferences, so, even if I don't like Kai, I can respect person who enjoy watching it.
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Post by DHM211 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:44 pm

1) Dragon Ball Kai
2) Dragon Ball Kai: The Final Chapters
3) Dragon Ball Super
4) Dragon Ball Z
5) Dragon Ball GT
6) Dragon Ball

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Post by sintzu » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:47 pm

WobbuSleuth wrote:I don't like Kai at all, and can't understand why some people love it.
We love it because it has a better dub and it doesn't take as long to watch.

I agree with all the flaws people bring up but for me and other Kai fans, the pacing and dub make up for them.
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Post by WobbuSleuth » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:09 pm

sintzu wrote:
WobbuSleuth wrote:I don't like Kai at all, and can't understand why some people love it.
We love it because it has a better dub and it doesn't take as long to watch.

I agree with all the flaws people bring up but for me and other Kai fans, the pacing and dub make up for them.
Ah, dub. I'm not from english-speaking country (which is obvious), so that plus not very meaningful for me. But I understand importance of Kai's dub for english-speaking fans.
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Post by sintzu » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:20 pm

WobbuSleuth wrote:I'm not from english-speaking country (which is obvious).
I wouldn't have known if you didn't mention it so your English is A LOT better than you think. :clap:
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Post by ChronoTwigger » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:45 pm

sintzu wrote:
WobbuSleuth wrote:If Toriyama wasn't lazy, I think, he would then come to a more creative idea than simply explain that Goku and Piccolo - aliens.
It's offtopic, but I think that Z-part of the series would be a LOT better, if Toriyama wasn't lazy and (probably) tired.
How would you have done it ?
Think of...
-Other continents so a little world building that lacked?
-Other continents tournaments in escalation?
-Have him reaching a cap, open a school and got new generations?
-Underground dragon people?
-A rival school to defeat?
-What in fact happened: an ancient god appearing?
-Frieza coming to Earth as an alien invasor?

There wasn't any need for Goku to be an alien, it stripped out a lotta magic out of the character. It also created that "infinite power cap" that turned later plots into a mess to manage.
You could have simply a series of episodes for "Goku search for his past", finding a lost tribe or maybe a divine origin!
How nice to have Goku being a Kami fallen on Earth to protect it (or being punished for crimes against the Skyes by a previous incarnation!).
Chinese mythology it's very more fascinating than "you're the space superhero, now shoot GETTA BEAM and destroy worlds".
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Post by nite_jay » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:28 pm

Dragonball no question.

Are we doing dubbed Kai? Because if so then Kai. But if we are doing subbed then I choose normal Z.

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Post by MajinMan » Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:50 pm

1. DB vs Final Chapters

DB wins.


2. DBZ vs Kai

DBZ wins.


Kai is trash. It's hard to believe people are choosing it over the originals.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:48 am

Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z
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Post by Boo Machine » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:22 am

Dragonball

DragonBall Z
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Post by SansrivaaL » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:04 am

1 DB
2 DBZ
3 DBS
4 DBGT

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Post by sintzu » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:04 am

MajinMan wrote:Kai is trash. It's hard to believe people are choosing it over the originals.
What's hard to believe about people wanting a faster paced story ?
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Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:14 am

Dragon Ball. Kai is garbage and a half-assed product with all sorts of problems. I wish it never existed.

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Post by sangofe » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:02 am

nite_jay wrote:Dragonball no question.

Are we doing dubbed Kai? Because if so then Kai. But if we are doing subbed then I choose normal Z.
I chose Kai because of the French dubs. I don't see why we can't choose it for that reason.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:12 am

1. Dragon Ball: The early sections are the best. The zany wacky Kung-Fu adventures of young Son Goku and friends are generally more engaging than the drawn-out battles to save the world.

2. Dragon Ball Z: While it doesn't retain the level of quality of the first series after the Saiyan arc, and the pacing is pretty bad from the Freeza arc onwards, it still has that patented Toriyama charm.

3. Dragon Ball Kai: An unnecessary cash-grab with an extremely slipshod production. It's sole redeeming quality is fact that it's really the first piece of Dragon Ball content that actually has a quality English dub.

4 & 5. Dragon Ball GT/Dragon Ball Super: While they do have some redeeming qualities, both series are sloppy messes that lack much of the charm and quality of Toriyama's original work. GT high points are higher and its low points are lower, whereas Super is more consistently meh. I think Super might be more infuriating, what with it taking place during the 10-year gap between the Boo arc and the epilogue, but since it's still airing, I'll give it a break for now.
Draconic wrote:The acting is worse because the cast is past their prime and also fatigued from already doing this same material over and over for almost a decade even before Kai debuted.
I can only assume you are referring to the Japanese voice acting.

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