Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:51 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
Do you mean Namek's core?
There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Cetra » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:54 pm

Gog wrote: I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
There is no such thing as Dragon Ball canonicity, especially not in Super. That the show that only cares about pseudo-consistency and pseudo-continuity actually cares about an absolute canoncity is an urban myth.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:56 pm

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Gog wrote: I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
There is no such thing as Dragon Ball canonicity, especially not in Super. That the show that only cares about pseudo-consistency and pseudo-continuity actually cares about an absolute canoncity is an urban myth.
B-b-b-but I believe that there's a canon, I still believe.... :(

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:58 pm

Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
ABED wrote: Do you mean Namek's core?
There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
I won't shit my pants laughing at the absurdity of using canon and Super in the same thought process when someone figures out wtf we're supposed to take as "canon" from that between the movies, show and manga.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Cetra » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:58 pm

Gog wrote: B-b-b-but I believe that there's a canon, I still believe.... :(
No one says you cannot. It is just an important difference.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:59 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
I won't shit my pants laughing at the absurdity of using canon and Super in the same thought process when someone figures out wtf we're supposed to take as "canon" from that between the movies, show and manga.
Its simple, you pick and choose at will... I think I'm the only person still desperately holding onto that phrase still having meaning

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Cetra » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:08 pm

Just be aware that this has no impact on what is and that you cannot actually use it while talking to people except for something like "I think".
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:19 pm

Cetra wrote:Just be aware that this has no impact on what is and that you cannot actually use it while talking to people except for something like "I think".
Yeah, I know :(

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:55 pm

Because they would... freeze to death and die? :?

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by TheZFighter » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:01 pm

I can't really think of a situation where blowing up the sun would be massively beneficial, and the sun would have a far greater effect than just Earth specifically.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by DBZ Macky » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:32 pm

Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
ABED wrote: Do you mean Namek's core?
There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
Speaking of "filler", I haven't watched GT but heard Goku say something like "When I'm a SS4, even 6000 degrees won't hurt me" in Xenoverse 2.

How hot is Earth's core anyways?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:38 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
ABED wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
Do you mean Namek's core?
There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
Wasn't that due to the lack of oxygen? Beerus and Whis teleported to him and were pretty chill down there.

Earth's core should be nothing to Goku at this point in terms of temperature.

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:44 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:
Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
Speaking of "filler", I haven't watched GT but heard Goku say something like "When I'm a SS4, even 6000 degrees won't hurt me" in Xenoverse 2.

How hot is Earth's core anyways?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Akira » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:55 am

Well, in case anyone missed it, and attempting (probably in vain) to get back on topic here, ABED mentioned on page one that the Vampire Lucifer tried to blow up the sun in Dragonball Movie 2: The Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle. It was his main ambition, and he even had a megalithic cannon set up to do just that. Just as he prepared to fire, Goku blew the platform out from under him with a Kamehameha. The cannon fell into the pit below, now vertical, and aimed away from the sun, it fired into outer space and subsequently vaporized Lucifer in the process. It really is a cool movie, and one of my favorites.

Question asked and answered, I guess you can go back to your "canon" arguments, even though the "Cannon" in question has been now answered in a bit more detail.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gonstead » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:04 pm

ABED wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
ABED wrote: You don't need a moon to sustain life. You need a sun.
I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.
I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.
Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by ABED » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:06 pm

Gonstead wrote:
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Kanassa wrote: I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.
I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.
Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?
It wouldn't be nearly as devastating as losing the source of life in this solar system. My guess is we wouldn't have tides anymore if the moon was gone.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Gonstead » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:05 am

ABED wrote:
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ABED wrote:I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.
Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?
It wouldn't be nearly as devastating as losing the source of life in this solar system. My guess is we wouldn't have tides anymore if the moon was gone.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by ABED » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:46 am

Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by Kanassa » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:58 am

ABED wrote:Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
THAT is my point.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?

Post by ABED » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:28 am

Kanassa wrote:
ABED wrote:Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
THAT is my point.
I'm confused. What does destroying the moon have to do with the sun? Yes, in real life it would be devastating if either happened, but in fiction, it doesn't have to be. If blowing up the sun is more disasterous, then it is. It's a story, not an astronomy lecture. One does not have anything to do with the other. We're dealing with a world where real life physics has no basis. Characters fall for miles, crash into the ground, and nothing happens to them.
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