When did hating Broly become the norm?
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When did hating Broly become the norm?
I got the idea for this thread from another poster on the thread for the Bio-Broly movie, and I figured it was worth asking.
Regarding the current dislike for Broly, I don't recall it having always been that way. These days though, it seems that expressing dislike for the character is pretty much the norm, and anyone who does still like the character is likely to be laughed at among certain circles.
For the record, I'm not even a Broly fan. I did like the character when I was younger, and movie 8 was my favorite of the Z movies for a certain period of time, but there's definitely no arguing that there's not much to the character, and he does get overexposed. At the same time though, he's hardly the worst of the movie villains, unless we're counting "Bio-Broly".
So, while I'm not exactly confused as to the dislike for his character, I am wondering when exactly it became the prevailing consensus.
Regarding the current dislike for Broly, I don't recall it having always been that way. These days though, it seems that expressing dislike for the character is pretty much the norm, and anyone who does still like the character is likely to be laughed at among certain circles.
For the record, I'm not even a Broly fan. I did like the character when I was younger, and movie 8 was my favorite of the Z movies for a certain period of time, but there's definitely no arguing that there's not much to the character, and he does get overexposed. At the same time though, he's hardly the worst of the movie villains, unless we're counting "Bio-Broly".
So, while I'm not exactly confused as to the dislike for his character, I am wondering when exactly it became the prevailing consensus.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
I have no freaking idea, but probably when fans realized the character was one-dimensional and overpowered.
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I think when his fans started comparing him to everyone is what led to him being hated.
Before Super started you'd see things like : Ssj3 Goku vs Breoly, Majin Vegeta vs Broly, Cell vs Broly, Buu vs Broly, Ssj4 vs Broly, GT's villains vs Broly, etc.
The same thing contimues when Super started with things like Beerus vs broly, Broly being the resurrected villain before we knew it was Freeza, etc.
Before Super started you'd see things like : Ssj3 Goku vs Breoly, Majin Vegeta vs Broly, Cell vs Broly, Buu vs Broly, Ssj4 vs Broly, GT's villains vs Broly, etc.
The same thing contimues when Super started with things like Beerus vs broly, Broly being the resurrected villain before we knew it was Freeza, etc.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
It became norm when people gets "immunized" with Egyptian Cat, Golden garbage, SSJ Rose, Black, 60's coinbox faced Zeno, Wolves god knows what else
Broly is one of those rare instance of "talk less, whoop ass more" brutal villain. Hate for him is unbelievable, which frankly only adds to his enigma.
Broly is one of those rare instance of "talk less, whoop ass more" brutal villain. Hate for him is unbelievable, which frankly only adds to his enigma.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Brolli's been a joke in Japan way longer than he has internationally. I remember seeing him in memes back when he was still considered cool internationally.
I wanna say he became a joke overseas around four or five years ago. How and why though? No clue.
I wanna say he became a joke overseas around four or five years ago. How and why though? No clue.
Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Its been tradition to use classic characters/moments as memes
As of posting this, I came across meme in DBZF no idea which anime it is but the Mods DP displayed "5th Form Cooler's esque face-mask popping with the iconic words"Well, shall we begin"
Another meme Gif showed the anime trolling classic Gohan powering up to SSJ2 against Cell with the dialogue "you transformed?!"
People troll something which is gag/lol worthy. I never came across any Bleach, Naruto, OP meme genuinely funny
As of posting this, I came across meme in DBZF no idea which anime it is but the Mods DP displayed "5th Form Cooler's esque face-mask popping with the iconic words"Well, shall we begin"
Another meme Gif showed the anime trolling classic Gohan powering up to SSJ2 against Cell with the dialogue "you transformed?!"
People troll something which is gag/lol worthy. I never came across any Bleach, Naruto, OP meme genuinely funny
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Probably around 2010/2011.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Singling out Broly for being "shallow" is hilarious when we have villains like 13, Slugg, Janemba and Hildegarn in the movies (which I'm fine with, by the way).
Broly's first film probably has one of the more interesting stories of the film franchise, and actually had some good undertones that most people ignore to use against the character, who was pretty unique compared to the likes of Slugg and 13.
Broly's first film probably has one of the more interesting stories of the film franchise, and actually had some good undertones that most people ignore to use against the character, who was pretty unique compared to the likes of Slugg and 13.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Broly is still a humongous fan favorite to the point they made a character inspired by him in Dragon Ball Super. There's plenty reason to criticize Broly movies (including the first one but much less so compared to the other 2), but I think his first movie was one of the better DBZ movies as it had a very interesting concept.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
I've never been a big Broly fan personally (I think he/ his movies is/ are incredibly overrated), but I always thought he was quite a popular character in general?
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
He's as loved as he's hated.TheZFighter wrote:I've never been a big Broly fan personally (I think he/ his movies is/ are incredibly overrated), but I always thought he was quite a popular character in general?
I think the hate derives from the endless "Broly vs (insert character)" discussions on various Dragon Ball boards and videos, and it's been amplified in recent years by the cancerous YouTube videos like "Broly God of Destruction confirmed", "Broly is from one of the another universes Beerus mentioned", "The worst wish ever (I remember it was supposed to be RoF's title) is about bringing back Broly to life", "Broly confirmed for Super", "Broly counterpart from U6 confirmed", "Broly in Tournament of Power (this one is actually partially true)" etc... It's like some fans can't live without Broly and they always want him in some way or another.
The amount of merchandise, movies and Heroes forms he got also probably doesn't help, he's been monetized to death.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
In all fairness, you could kind of say the same for Bardock, but people still love him.emperior wrote:It's like some fans can't live without Broly and they always want him in some way or another.TheZFighter wrote:I've never been a big Broly fan personally (I think he/ his movies is/ are incredibly overrated), but I always thought he was quite a popular character in general?
The amount of merchandise, movies and Heroes forms he got also probably doesn't help, he's been monetized to death.
Besides, Dragon Ball in general has pretty much been monetized to death. It's basically the Star Wars of anime in terms of how much it's been milked.
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At least Bardock has a personality, unlike Broly.WittyUsername wrote:In all fairness, you could kind of say the same for Bardock, but people still love him.emperior wrote:It's like some fans can't live without Broly and they always want him in some way or another.TheZFighter wrote:I've never been a big Broly fan personally (I think he/ his movies is/ are incredibly overrated), but I always thought he was quite a popular character in general?
The amount of merchandise, movies and Heroes forms he got also probably doesn't help, he's been monetized to death.
Besides, Dragon Ball in general has pretty much been monetized to death. It's basically the Star Wars of anime in terms of how much it's been milked.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Depends on which version of Bardock we're talking about here. If it's Toei's Bardock, sure. If it's Toriyama or Ooishi's Bardock though, that's up for debate.8000 Saiyan wrote:At least Bardock has a personality, unlike Broly.WittyUsername wrote:In all fairness, you could kind of say the same for Bardock, but people still love him.emperior wrote:It's like some fans can't live without Broly and they always want him in some way or another.
The amount of merchandise, movies and Heroes forms he got also probably doesn't help, he's been monetized to death.
Besides, Dragon Ball in general has pretty much been monetized to death. It's basically the Star Wars of anime in terms of how much it's been milked.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Yeah, he's loved just about as much as he's hated.
I think the fans that love the violence, old school DBZ favor him because he's a giant psychopathic brute with an awesome design + Saiyan? lmao.
You know when he fights characters are gonna get destroyed which is always fun seeing.
I think the fans that love the violence, old school DBZ favor him because he's a giant psychopathic brute with an awesome design + Saiyan? lmao.
You know when he fights characters are gonna get destroyed which is always fun seeing.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
I think people that hate him, are ones that know someone personally who thinks he's the most awesome character in Dragon Ball and it annoys them to an extent.
Broli is good in small doses and I don't hate him. In fact, I think he's got a pretty awesome look and gimmick. He's great fun in video games too. He's in 3 movies and that's all I can stand to see him on-screen, though. If he makes a return or something, that'll suck.
Broli is good in small doses and I don't hate him. In fact, I think he's got a pretty awesome look and gimmick. He's great fun in video games too. He's in 3 movies and that's all I can stand to see him on-screen, though. If he makes a return or something, that'll suck.
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Ah, but that's the appeal of Broly! He's beast-like in personality and strength.8000 Saiyan wrote:At least Bardock has a personality, unlike Broly.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
I imagine people thought Broly was cool when they were kids because they wouldn't really have cared about his flaws. As people look at Broly now they realize that he isn't the awesome villain they remember him being, so now people disillusioned with having their childhood memories shattered turn to hating the character they once loved.
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Re: When did hating Broly become the norm?
Broly's shallowness as a character is accentuated because of how much exposure he's had compared to the other villains you mentioned. He's had three movies about him, gets shoehorned into just about every piece of Dragon Ball related media, is marketed to hell by Toei/Bandai Namco, and his hardcore fans are insufferable. He wouldn't have been nearly as hated if he was treated like any regular Dragon Ball movie villain.Metalwario64 wrote:Singling out Broly for being "shallow" is hilarious when we have villains like 13, Slugg, Janemba and Hildegarn in the movies (which I'm fine with, by the way).
Broly's first film probably has one of the more interesting stories of the film franchise, and actually had some good undertones that most people ignore to use against the character, who was pretty unique compared to the likes of Slugg and 13.
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