Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
Cipher wrote:Remember when the Nazis and other oppressive state regimes trampled citizens' rights by congratulating popular media for including more positive portrayals of women?
What propaganda has to do with censorship? I would say it was good, because lies spreaded by mass media forced people to think by themselves. By the way, let's not allow ourselves to be fooled completely. All crazy regimes had something, that was good. Antifa probably thinks that the economy is bad, because German Nazis had it.
ABED wrote:Censorship is also something only possible by government action. It doesn't apply here.
Generating strong “social pressure” has big influence on people's decisions and actions. Not mentioning heavy criticism or even punishments for “not being correct”. Doesn't the left protest against what some influential religious groups preach? If generating pressure means nothing, why do they protest?
As I said before, I advocate for freedom. If you want people to be free, you cannot generate this kind of pressure (excluding suff, which directly leads to breaking the law - this needs to be stopped/criticized/punished).
Lets break this down to its core essence:
The Nazi party conquered vast (peaceful) chunks of Europe by armed military force, and had State-sanctioned oppression of minority religious groups (most notably, but not solely, the Jews). They rounded up men, women, children, and babies, imprisoned them in labor camps where they A) worked them to death, or B) fed them into gas chambers and ovens to be poisoned or burned alive. Anyone who tried to escape were gunned down (often times by Hitler Youth, indoctrinated children who were allowed to take potshots at escaping Jewish prisoners for target practice) or had attack dogs sicced on them and were literally eaten alive.
All purely because of their religion and ethnic background.
Dragon Ball Super has, near as I can tell, created two brand new female Saiya-jin characters who are capable of going SSJ.
You are equating these two things in the same breath, seriously and unironically so far as I can tell, out of some woefully misguided /pol/-induced line of tortured pretzel logic that states "Any fictional work that I love that decides to at some point include prominent female or minority characters in a position of power is putting 'pressure' on other people to... I don't know, see these kinds of people as worthy of depth and inclusion like anyone else? This 'forced pressure' to include people who I'm not used to seeing (either at all or in a powerful role) impinges on freedom of speech (the freedom apparently to ignore that women and black people and gays or whomever else exists, or are more than a collection of tidy stereotypes). Ergo, Nazis."
Have I got all that right? Because I've heard this nonsensical garbage before, and at NO point has it EVER sounded like anything other than the demented, absurd ramblings of an utter moron. Which make no mistake, is exactly what you are here. Especially even more so seeing as how (according to your location there) you're from Poland. A Polish kid pulling out Nazi analogies over a fucking children's cartoon show. That's x2 idiot points for you.
And I couldn't give a fuck less that I'm breaking the site's "Keep it Shonen" rule here: in cases like yours, I'll happily make an exception and have no problems whatsoever with insulting you personally and directly for being dumb enough to buy into and help propagate backward-assed, knuckle-dragging nonsense like this. If one of the mods wants to give me a "strike" or whatever for it, then fine I'll take it, doesn't even phase me here.
I've no idea how old you are, but even if you're 12 or something, that's STILL no excuse for spewing this toxic sludge, and your parents should be slapped (at minimum) for not doing their jobs properly with you. You're not a "free thinker" (especially since much of this shit your saying is just ripped word for word out of any given post on 8chan), and you're damn sure not being "cool and rebellious": that badge of honor is strictly reserved for people who take a stand against societal norms for a cause that's actually worth something and beneficial to others who are being unjustly oppressed against and shit on by the majority.
What you're doing here is actually the direct OPPOSITE of cool and rebellious: you're twisting basic logic (and relatively recent history, not to mention common sense) around to fit a forced victimization narrative where its women and minority groups who have had all the power, and its the poor, poor white man who is now shamed and victimized: shame and victimization that comes in the form of *GASP* characters in popular media now having to share space with more women, brown skinned, and gay/trans people than before.
Oh boo hoo! Its just like the Nazis all over again! Just like Jews who had to get forcibly thrown at gunpoint into a gas chamber and be poisoned/asphyxiated to death, I have to look at... ick, girls
(GIRLS!! I mean they have cooties you know!) with SSJ hair on Dragon Ball once a week! I'm such a victim!
No, what it is that you're being here is at best a laughably ridiculous imbecile, and at worst a vile and disgusting piece of shit.