Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Grimlock » Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:18 pm

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Pretty much this.

In-universe speaking, Dragon Ball doesn't have a main villain... For now. It might have if a threat from somewhere else appears (it'd be just like a current storyline going on in Marvel Comics, and it'd be fantastic).

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by KBABZ » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:21 pm

While he isn't an over-arching villain, I'd like to make a case for Tao on a minor level, as he was the first opponent that Goku had personal beef with after he kills Bora for really no reason at all, in a way that surpasses Blue. As well, it's the first case where Goku has to perform a sort of power-up to defeat him, as well as the trope of "Oh an even badder opponent shows up and kicks the old one to the curb!".

As stated earlier, Dragon Ball doesn't really have a singular villain, rather a series of ever-stronger opponents to challenge the main characters. The closest it has to a Lex Luthor or Robotnik would probably be Frieza on account of the personal connections, but he's still an Arc villain at the end of the day.

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by funrush » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:45 pm

Pilaf
Mercenary Tao
Tenshinhan
King Piccolo

Piccolo
Vegeta
Freeza
Dr. Gero
Cell
Buu

Beerus
Zamasu


Tenshinhan isn't really like an aspiration-filled villain, but he was a massive piece of shit in his arc so he earns a spot in my book. Dr. Gero earns his spot by both being a murderer and creating the androids/Cell.

Freeza is bolded because he's by far the most important antagonist in the entire franchise. He killed Goku and Vegeta's families, is featured in at least 3 arcs, and is one of the only recurring antagonists in Dragon Ball, aside from Tao at the 23rd TB and Vegeta on Namek/Majin Vegeta. He's responsible for Goku being shipped off to Earth and not being found again, essentially allowing this entire story to exist.

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:18 pm

DB: Pilaf, Commander Red, King Piccolo
DBZ: Frieza, Cell, Buu
DBGT: Baby and Shadow Dragons
DBS: Zamasu and Goku Black
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by ABED » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:01 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:DB: Pilaf, Commander Red, King Piccolo
DBZ: Frieza, Cell, Buu
DBGT: Baby and Shadow Dragons
DBS: Zamasu and Goku Black
DBZ: You forgot Vegeta.

In DB, I would include The Crane Hermit as the villain of the Tenshinhan arc. I'd say The Red Ribbon Army as a whole is the villain. Yes, Red is at the helm, but Black kills him and takes over at the end.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by KBABZ » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:16 pm

ABED wrote:I'd say The Red Ribbon Army as a whole is the villain. Yes, Red is at the helm, but Black kills him and takes over at the end.
I would agree there, although Blue does a lot more in a direct fashion to stand out on his own. Not to mention Tao (despite being a hired hand. ...tongue?). Silver doesn't do anything of importance in the manga but a case can be made for the anime, and while White isn't really a nice guy, he doesn't do quite enough to be remembered as a mini-arc villain.

If you were to take it as a whole, I'd say that the main villains are Piccolo, Frieza, Cell and Buu, with Vegeta as a part-timer alongside Raditz and Nappa. I do feel though that, be it GT or Super, the Pilaf Gang appears often enough that they should be considered a part of the group, even if it is through frequency than actual evil-ness. After all, without them King Piccolo wouldn't have been brought back!

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by ABED » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 pm

Vegeta is clearly a villain. Ultimately he has a redemption arc, but her was the villain of that arc. I know there are those that feel that arc falls under the umbrella of the Freeza arc, but I don't believe that at all.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Duo » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:11 am

Huge amounts of the fanbase, filler, the orange bricks, people who don't appreciate the vocal talent of Masako Nozawa, and that one really awful song from the DBS soundtrack.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Toxin45 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:53 am

Frieza became a major recurring villain now.

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:55 am

Toxin45 wrote:Frieza became a major recurring villain now.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Toxin45 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:57 am

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:43 pm

Red Ribbon Army, Freeza, Cell, Boo.

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Logania » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:00 pm

Goku. That filthy ningen keeps attracting bad guys and endangered multiple universes.

Not to mention he could stop bad guys and events multiple times he just don't feel like it.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:09 pm

Dragon Ball doesn't have a main villain. Each arc is mostly standalone with no running threads that really qualify as a long-running foe.

Perhaps the main foe is always the next challenge?
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Pirina_Fusee » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:34 pm

Technically speaking Frieza is the main villain because he caused the problem that began the series.

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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:22 pm

Wouldnt it be Beerus?

I'm kind of joking but if you consider... he had Planet Vegeta destroyed. And thus all the plot happened thanks to him.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by ABED » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:26 pm

But it's not all building towards Freeza. He's not the mastermind of the events in the entire story.

What do you mean when you say main villains? Are you talking about the big bads of each arc? If so, the main villains are:
Pilaf (moreso in the anime than manga)
The Red Ribbon Army
Piccolo Daimao
Piccolo
Vegeta
Freeza
Cell
Buu
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by sintzu » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:40 pm

Pirina_Fusee wrote:Technically speaking Frieza is the main villain because he caused the problem that began the series.
ABED wrote:But it's not all building towards Freeza. He's not the mastermind of the events in the entire story.
Goku was sent to earth before Freeza destroyed Planet Vegeta (within the context of the original story) so even if Freeza left them alone the story up till the end of the 23rd Tenkaichi would've played out the same.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:42 pm

Main-main villains:
-Pilaf
-Frieza
-Shadow Dragons

I'd say Baby (as a Tuffle) and Beerus can also be considered "secondary-main" villains.
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Re: Who, to you, are the main villains of Dragonball?

Post by ABED » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:43 pm

What about Cell, Buu, Baby, either Piccolo?
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