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Preference of Art Style?

Post by GamerSkull » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:50 pm

This is actually a simple question. Do you like how Toriyama's art style looked prior to Namek? Back when it was more rounded. Or do you prefer how the art style looks after that?

I prefer the older art style that featured more prominently in early Dragon Ball. It looks nicer to me.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by KBABZ » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:11 pm

I like the rounded art style as well, although it only seems to work when Toriyama is doing it for the most part; when I do a side-by-side comparison of most of the anime's versions of Toriyama's panels, I personally find that they're much more vague and less confident by comparison.

Side-note: at first I thought this thread was going to compare the painted look of the 90s traditional backgrounds to the super colourful digital backgrounds for Super.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Cipher » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:06 am

My favorite Toriyama art actually predates Dragon Ball, being scattered throughout Slump and his earlier one-shots (early Dragon Ball is of a piece with it, but I think he was willing to get a bit bolder with composition in some of the earlier works, and perhaps running off more energy).

Within Dragon Ball, my favorite art is actually found in the Namek arc, as Toriyama transitions into his angular style while maintaining a high level of detail that would drop off in the Cell arc (my least favorite era for his artwork, though it's by no means bad), before becoming pleasingly sketchy, loose, and increasingly cartoony again in the Boo arc. Everything on Namek looks fantastic, communicating the high-stakes tension while remaining expressive. The fact that the Goku versus Freeza fight is able to communicate both action and character on its unimaginably massive scale is no small feat.

I also like his streamlined 2010s stuff. It's hard to go wrong, really. None of his work looks bad. Some stretches are just more stellar than others.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by AnzuMazaki » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am

I prefer Toriyama's older style to the popular DBZ style.
I like how rounded and detailed it looks compared to the 90s stuff, and it has more charm to me than the mid-90s stuff that is more popular.
I also like the older animators'' (Maeda, Shindou, Torishima, etc) styles during DB-Early DBZ as well.

I try to draw simular to those styles.
I also like Toriyama's rounded cartoony style from the start of his career and the modern Toriyama art as well.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Michsi » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:35 am

Yeah, I definitely love his more rounder style. Piccolo arc - Saiyan arc is my favorite part of DB , both in the manga and anime, and the drawing style is a big reason for that.
His characters are worlds more expressive in this style than the angular one. Just look at Roshi and King Piccolo. Even Vegeta and Nappa.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:37 pm

I'm fan of his post 2010 style, I never found appealing large muscles (and quite overrated too), the old and angular and pretty square build post Saiyan Arc that DBZ popularized made them look quite generic body builders.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by emperior » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:10 pm

Toriyama's art style was at its best from Saiyan arc to Namek. After the Cell games, his quality decreased in the Buu arc it's easy to notice how some chapters look better than others and in general how tired Toriyama was of drawing Dragon Ball at the time.
As for his current style, I actually like it especially for his perfect anatomy when drawing muscles.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by PacificOceanDub » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

I’ve got to go with the art style that was used from Piccolo through the Saiyan arc. There’s something about the fact that it’s still cartoony and innocent looking, while the subject matter of the story gets darker and much more serious around this time.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Vegeta_Sama » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:53 pm

My favourite Toriyama arstyle is the more angular one from the end of the Saiyan saga/ beginning of Frieza arc until the end of the Cell arc, and some parts of the Buu saga. I also enjoy his rounded style of early DB and Dr. Slump, and I have mixed feelings over his recent style. While I like it, it just doesn't fit Dragon Ball at all, the characters look too young and anorexic , and it's quite jarring when you think that they were buff as f just a couple of years ago (story-wise). I'm glad Toyo draws the manga so it can at least look a bit like the Original volumes, even though he's still miles behind Toriyama imo
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Logania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:22 pm

Definitely his Late Saiyan-Namek Saga style. It had such good detail that isn't present in the later sagas.

However even though Toyotarou isn't as good as Toriyama as a whole, his characters features are growing on me as he mixes round and sharp features like Goku having more childlike expressions, which I didn't really see in Z's manga. (or maybe I just didn't notice)
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by AloversGaming » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:11 pm

Didn't read much of the manga, but by anime standards pre-Android was perfect, but to really pin-point my favourite style it'd be the last arc of DB - start of Z.

The Dead Zone movie is how I wish all Dragon Ball Z looked. Nothing comes close to it.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Kuwabara » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:39 pm

In general, I prefer Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru and Maeda Minoru's art over most of Toriyama's work. Tadayoshi Yamamuro's older work is really great as well.

As far as the overall art styles go, both the rounded and more angular style are too iconic for me to have a preference for one over the other.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Duo » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:52 pm

Add me to the 23rd Budokai - end of Saiyan arc / Movie 1 camp. I love that DragonGarrowLee emulates that style more than any other in DB.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Attitudefan » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:53 pm

AloversGaming wrote:Didn't read much of the manga, but by anime standards pre-Android was perfect, but to really pin-point my favourite style it'd be the last arc of DB - start of Z.

The Dead Zone movie is how I wish all Dragon Ball Z looked. Nothing comes close to it.

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Ah yes me too!!! My drawings are based on this era, specifically the Dead Zone film. I love that the Cha La opening has the exact style of movie 1. It has such grit and style that is lost later on with a cleaner sharper look (and has morphed into the shiny bubble characters of today).

From about the end of the 22nd TB to the beginning of Namek, DB has the Dead Zone style of art, both manga and anime. Too bad it couldn't remain this way.
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Vijay » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:59 am

Guess I'll be minority here

As far as anime goes : I admire Android/Cell ~ Boo Arc

The artistry & animation is so gorgeous especially Tadayoshi, Mashashiro, Hisada, Studio Cockpit/Masunaga Keisugi & Tate Naoki episodes.

Just watch DBZ Ep 179 & 279. Compare them to any best DB episode.

You'll observe a world of difference

As far as manga goes : Its Toriyama's work man. I freakin love from BoDB till EoZ.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by GamerSkull » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Vijay wrote:Guess I'll be minority here

As far as anime goes : I admire Android/Cell ~ Boo Arc

The artistry & animation is so gorgeous especially Tadayoshi, Mashashiro, Hisada, Studio Cockpit/Masunaga Keisugi & Tate Naoki episodes.

Just watch DBZ Ep 179 & 279. Compare them to any best DB episode.

You'll observe a world of difference

As far as manga goes : Its Toriyama's work man. I freakin love from BoDB till EoZ.

My 2 cents
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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Michsi » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:43 pm

I think I should add that while early DBZ style is my favorite, I found that Yamamuro's designs during Z's run looked great too. It was only at the very end of Z and GT that I really started having a problem with the drawing style.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by t0ffe3m4n » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:14 pm

If I had to choose I'd say the Cell era stuff absolutely nails it for me. I do like the early Z style as well though, those screens that AloversGaming posted above look great.

Takahashi's stuff in Super has been incredible, I just wish that 90% of episodes looked like that.. (certainly during the more action-heavy episodes anyway).

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by Firebolt » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:22 pm

Yamamuro's designs for Z movie 8-13 are easily my favourite, it's truly a shame he regressed so much afterwards.

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Re: Preference of Art Style?

Post by t0ffe3m4n » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:28 pm

Firebolt wrote:Yamamuro's designs for Z movie 8-13 are easily my favourite, it's truly a shame he regressed so much afterwards.
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