Do fans of the English dub use the SSJ term?

[Cure Dragon 255]

Because they say Super Saiyan. Not Super Saiyajin? Why is that so if they do?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't. "SSJ" is just a term that a majority of Westerners decided to adopt for some reason*. It's not even a dub thing Japanese folk and Japanese merchandise hardly use "J" themselves.

*I know VegettoEX said they use it because SS sounds too much like a boat but I don't know what other people's reasonings are.

[KBABZ]

Personally I prefer using SS, particularly in light of SSGSS, as ridiculous as it is, when it isn't the even more ridiculous SSJGSSJ.

[Robo4900]

A lot of people seem to use "SSJ", which is especially weird given that the subs, the manga, the dub, everything render it in English as Super Saiyan...
In my experience, even a lot of dub fans seem to be doing it, and I just can't figure out why. In my view, saying SSJ instead of SS is equivalent to saying "Jinzoningen" instead of Artificial Humans/Androids

[Lightdasher]

Only sometimes, mostly just because I think it sounds cool. In the same way that I like to repeat, "Supaaah Saiya-jin... SHREEEEE?!" if I hear it said in the show. If I use it at all seriously, chances are that I'm just trying to be as accurate to the source material as possible for someone that cares for it.

[Ajay]

I feel like SSJ is just this thing that's existed on the internet forever, particularly pre-dub days.

I have very vivid memories of seeing it when the dub had barely been on TV a year, and wondering what the hell the J meant.

I guess due to extended exposure over the years, I picked it up, and can't really be bothered to change (plus SS is kinda ugly and has some not so nice historical connotations).

I haven't been a dub-centric person in years and years, but even when I was, SSJ was just totally ingrained in me.

[OhHiRenan]

I’ve tried switching over to SS but, like Ajay said, it’s pretty ugly. I find SSJ aesthetically pleasing to see and type so I stick with it. For Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, though, I just use SSG and SSGSS since the J just complicates matters more in that case.

[Dbzfan94]

I personally do. I'm as much as a dub fan as they come, and I like using it for abbreviations. I dont even remember when I picked it up; though I think it was when I was still involved in the Youtube comment scene (long before the age of DB youtubers)

SSJ just looks cool. SSJ. SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ4, even the fan name for Grade 3 "Ultra Super Saiyan" looks cool as USSJ

[ulisa]

I can say that I started to use SSJ mainly after starting to come onto message boards like this one. There were a lot of people that came from watching the Japanese version so SSJ was used more often than not. Writing SS seemed weird so I shifted to using SSJ. Oddly enough, I also started to use "Super Saiyan-jin" (though I have no doubt I originally butchered the pronunciation) when talking in conversation and I truthfully have no idea why. It sounded "better" I guess?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Personally I prefer using SS, particularly in light of SSGSS, as ridiculous as it is, when it isn't the even more ridiculous SSJGSSJ.

"SSJG", "SSJR" "SSJB" still also look pretty stupid in my opinion.

[Dbzfan94]

Personally I prefer using SS, particularly in light of SSGSS, as ridiculous as it is, when it isn't the even more ridiculous SSJGSSJ.

"SSJG", "SSJR" "SSJB" still also look pretty stupid in my opinion.

Which is why I just say God, Rose or Blue. SSG / SSR / SSB don’t look much better. It really fit with numbers but letters just looks strange.

[Helios518]

Personally I prefer using SS, particularly in light of SSGSS, as ridiculous as it is, when it isn't the even more ridiculous SSJGSSJ.

"SSJG", "SSJR" "SSJB" still also look pretty stupid in my opinion.

Nah, can't really agree and don't see why you say that either. It seems as fine as using "SSJ2" or "SSJ3". Though, I do think SSJGSSJ is excessive but that's a just a problem with that name specifically.

[Desassina]

I prefer SSJ like I do with SSG. It's only one letter after Super Saiyan, when SS2 and SS3 go like that just fine, but I prefer Blue and Rosé when the transformations have already been mentioned.

[Asura]

It is weird how the vast majority of dub fans use the terms SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, etc but we called Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue SSG and SSB instead of SSJG and SSJB.

For some reason the J just doesn’t look right in SSG and SSB

[Logania]

I just had it engrained in my mind, I don't even know when it started it just...magically became apart of my Dragon Ball vocabulary

Like others have said, it just looks cooler and SS just feels like something's missing there in the acronym to me.

[Kunzait_83]

I feel like SSJ is just this thing that's existed on the internet forever, particularly pre-dub days.

It was indeed. Saiya-jin was overall at least equally if not somewhat MORE widely used than Saiyan in most pre-dub Dragon Ball discussions. SSJ was the most common abbreviation as a result. SS was used from time to time as well, but nowhere NEAR as often by any stretch.

SSJ is much like terms such as "Mystic Gohan", "USSJ", or "Saga"; these are all pre-dub online DB fan terms that have managed to latch onto the post-dub audience and live on up through even to this day still.

Also I subscribe to Mike's view on this: SS sounds way too much like some kind of cruise ship (or worse, some kind of Nazi rank). I've always snickered at the name of #13's attack "SS Deadly Bomber" from Movie 7 for that very reason. SSJ is thus what I've always, and likely will continue to always, use.

[Zephyr]

Am I the only one who has the "j" lowercase? As in "SSj"?

[TheGreatness25]

It's just one of those things that carried over from the late 90s, to be honest. Like "Ultra SSJ" and "Mystic Gohan," these are the terms that existed before the dub even got to the point in the series where it had those particular terms applied. Personally, I usually just spell out "Super Saiyan," as I do think that "SS" sounds and looks strange, and yet, "SSJ" doesn't make sense if I'm not using "Super Saiya-jin."

[Bullza]

It's a bit more obvious in general when people say SSJ that they're referring to Super Saiyan.

[Alruneia]

I am a fan of the English dub and have started consistently using SS instead of SSJ. Thing is, I had to have pointed out to me that it is also written as SS in Japanese (-jin is used as a suffix in "Suupaa Saiyajin", so it's not worth its own letter, but I didn't know that back then), which I was made aware of thanks to SSGSS. That's what made me break the J habit and fully switch over. I think more people need an "epiphany" like that if they're going to drop the J. Of course, habits are strong...