KBABZ wrote:I agree, however it is handy for when a Dubbie is talking to a... Subbie(?) because it references the key identifier of that dragon present in both versions, and the characters are obscure enough to most that they won't bother to remember their names outside of "the fat frog one" or "that girl one".
Eh, if a dub-fan doesn't get it, one of the posters(Or perhaps the OP, in a small note in the very first post) can quickly clarify the character's dub name.
Besides, several dub-fans who grew up on the show's original run in Canada and the UK wouldn't get who "Omega Shenron" is either if they haven't watched it since the original TV run, since Blue Water called him "Ii Shenron". Still not a completely correct name, but if you go with Ii Shinron, you're close enough that people who watched the BW dub would get it, at least. And it uses the same kind of transliteration as "Shenron", romanising the Japanese pronunciation(Ii Shinron), rather than the Chinese(Yi Xing Long. Also, for reference, this is why Steve Simmons always uses "Shen Long" in his subs).
Though, really, that logic is kind of a stretch, and to be honest, if someone doesn't get the name, it's pretty obvious who's being referred to in the OP. Unless the person involved doesn't read the OP. In which case, it's their fault if they've missed something important, I say.
ABED wrote:Or rather the Buu Effect?
Eh, I guess that works too.
Though, really, I'd say the Boo Effect would more likely be something that refers to either the weird tangents and directions the longer arcs tend to go in(Like, seriously, plot out the Boo arc and the Red Ribbon arc; they go in
a ton of different directions), or how a really interesting and/or fun character can get sidelined due to them being really overpowered.
(Not just a dig at Super; GT isn't innocent either, but that's a discussion for another day)
jamiljamtheman wrote:[...]
But like Omega Shenron, I am still enjoying it and while the show hasn't finished yet, I can still have hopes for a really excellent finale to the fight and the tournament. I'll definitely post to this after tonight's episode!
Haha. Well, I love GT. But, I completely and utterly hate Super's anime. I won't go into it, because you guys all seem to enjoy it, and who am I to crap on your fun?
Anyway, ironically enough, I don't really have much to contribute to this discussion outside of telling people how tired I am about the hate for GT, since the Super manga is so far behind, I have no idea what Jiren's deal is, and Toyotaro may end up avoiding this particular failing in his telling.
But, in any case, I hope you enjoy the episode, and gain a lot more interesting stuff to discuss in this thread from it.
jamiljamtheman wrote:It's the only series I've seen all the way through. I watched it first when I wanted to see what Dragon Ball was all about because I figured at the time that it was the shortest and I could see the characters already being super strong (Super didn't exist at this time). I really enjoyed it and credit it with getting me interested in Dragon Ball.
Since then, I have watched and read scattered things including the movies, some of DB Kai and even less of DBZ, the Super Manga, and the Super anime. I intend to actually read or watch the whole Dragon Ball story one day, I just haven't found the urge to do so yet. For now I survive based on common knowledge, what others bring up, and external media like video games for my familiarity with the DB world as a whole.
I decided to bring this up because I could sense some similarities to what I was familiar with currently in Super, and also maybe a little because I wanted to rant.
Haha, fair enough. Dragon Ball runs long.
If you plan on watching the whole run sometime, I suggest starting with the original Dragon Ball series. It's quite easygoing, it's where the story starts, and since the arcs didn't really get that involved until about the midpoint of the Red Ribbon Army arc, it doesn't matter if you aren't able to watch it consistently for pretty much the entire first half of the show.
I'm curious, though -- I presume you watched dubbed, but was it with the Japanese score?
Either way, glad to see someone else who sees GT in a positive light. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one around...
ABED wrote:But it's a serialized story. It might be the shortest show, but it's the tail end. It's like starting a TV show with the final season. Even though the characters are stronger in GT than they were at any point prior, that doesn't make the execution of the fights any better. If you want to see what DB is all about, you shouldn't have started with GT.
Dude, leave him alone. What's done is done; he enjoyed it in the end, and that's what matters. Would you like it if I started ripping into you for starting with Dragon Ball Z?
(Yes, I'm presuming here. But let's be real, most fans did, and as it's 194 chapters or 153 episodes away from the start of the series, the same logic applies)
ABED wrote:Ironically, given GT's story about traveling throughout the galaxy, drawing energy from all the people they met along the way ties it all together.
Sorry to be a pedant, but that's not irony, that's coincidence. (Or, dare I say, good writing.
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ABED wrote:For the most part, I like the fight against Kid Buu. It's not the buying time that bothers me. What bothers me in the Buu arc is not just its sheer length, it's the number of big concepts that get introduced and end up going nowhere. And unlike the 4-Star Dragon being the one to take out the big bad, both Gotenks and Gohan were main characters, so them defeating Buu would've made sense given the direction the story seemed to be heading.
I like the Genki Dama finally finishing off an opponent, but the problem is that it doesn't tie thematically with the rest of the arc.
I really love the Boo arc as a whole, but yeah, it did not need to be as long as it was, and the ending kinda comes outta no-where. I think it was definitely a good point for Toriyama to stop doing the manga.
The point of Dragon Ball is to enjoy it. Never lose sight of that.