A16 should be in ToP instead of Tenshinhan

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Pikkon isn't canon. If you are gonna pick non-canon characters you might as well pick Broly. Also, there is no way all characters could reasonably have an equal body count if they are not equal in power. And Arale is a gag character, I wouldn't take any that happens with her seriously.

Pikkon fits in much better than Broly does so its not that any non-canon character would have been applicable. There is literally nothing with Pikkon that could contradict the story unlike Broly by comparison, he was just never likely to come back. And saying that there would be an equal body count despite the scaling being nonexistent in that arc doesn't sound justifiable for Piccolo and Tenshinhan to do literally nothing, if not no better than Roshi & Krillin whom they are far stronger than.

How is arale existing now make 16's death a plothole?

They are both androids, 16 wasnt wished back after Cell, but Arale was after Kid Buu blew Earth.

The statement is presented as if 16 not being alive is the plothole, when Arale shouldn't be to begin with to compare that.

Who says Arale died when Kid Buu blew up the Earth though? I mean, splitting the Earth in two is clearly child's play for her. It going "BOOM!" probably wouldn't do much to her physically.

If we really want to be facetious, she probably survived but they couldn't sense her.

[blain218]

Pikkon isn't canon. If you are gonna pick non-canon characters you might as well pick Broly. Also, there is no way all characters could reasonably have an equal body count if they are not equal in power. And Arale is a gag character, I wouldn't take any that happens with her seriously.

Pikkon fits in much better than Broly does so its not that any non-canon character would have been applicable. There is literally nothing with Pikkon that could contradict the story unlike Broly by comparison, he was just never likely to come back. And saying that there would be an equal body count despite the scaling being nonexistent in that arc doesn't sound justifiable for Piccolo and Tenshinhan to do literally nothing, if not no better than Roshi & Krillin whom they are far stronger than.

How is arale existing now make 16's death a plothole?

They are both androids, 16 wasnt wished back after Cell, but Arale was after Kid Buu blew Earth.

The statement is presented as if 16 not being alive is the plothole, when Arale shouldn't be to begin with to compare that.

Who says Arale died when Kid Buu blew up the Earth though? I mean, splitting the Earth in two is clearly child's play for her. It going "BOOM!" probably wouldn't do much to her physically.

If we really want to be facetious, she probably survived but they couldn't sense her.

The way the afterlife is shown in Super contradicts the Pikkon filler. Movies 8 and 10 don't really contradict anything major. Movie 8 could be during the 10 day wait for the Cell Games and M10 could be the training period for the tournament.

[Ki Breaker]

Sure 16, sounds good in the top, Playing with and against Android 16 in fighterZ makes me curious how Jiren would have tried to handel 16..
Only problem is with 16 on our team is our victory would have been confirmed before the tournament even began, if fighterZ is anything to go by that is..

[Robo4900]

If it's not stated either way the fact that he was brought back and 16 wasn't kinda does prove it. That's the point.

16 never had a chance to. The wish was specifically for everyone killed by Buu, which would exclude 16 since he died seven years before that point.

16 wasn't brought back by the wish to revive everyone killed by Cell, either.

Umm...

#17 was revived by both wishes, wasn't he?
And #8 was revived by, at the very least, the Boo wish...

So, why should #16 be a special case?

There's nothing in-universe to point to him not being revived by either wish, other than him simply not appearing on-screen. All the "#16 wasn't revived" stuff is simply fans speculating, and possibly a guidebook throwing out a silly handwave.

[KBABZ]

16 never had a chance to. The wish was specifically for everyone killed by Buu, which would exclude 16 since he died seven years before that point.

16 wasn't brought back by the wish to revive everyone killed by Cell, either.

Umm...

#17 was revived by both wishes, wasn't he?
And #8 was revived by, at the very least, the Boo wish...

So, why should #16 be a special case?

There's nothing in-universe to point to him not being revived by either wish, other than him simply not appearing on-screen. All the "#16 wasn't revived" stuff is simply fans speculating, and possibly a guidebook throwing out a silly handwave.

#17 is a great example actually, because he too was revived completely off-screen and the audience just has to presume he's alive again for ages. He doesn't appear again until Goku needs energy to defeat Kid Buu!

[Jord]

The humans shouldn't have been in the TOP at all and when looking back, except for Roshi, they were a waste. I hated the tease where Buu was going to be in the ToP since it could provide for much more unique fights. His fight with that wolf dude in the previous tournament was pretty awesome and a great example of what to do with Buu. It's an absolute joke that people like Kuririn, Roshi and Tenshinhan can 'hang' with the other U7 fighters. Even Goten+Trunks would be a lot more interesting. Yes, they would have to be somewhat more serious but that's nothing good writing can fix.

[Kamiccolo9]

16 never had a chance to. The wish was specifically for everyone killed by Buu, which would exclude 16 since he died seven years before that point.

16 wasn't brought back by the wish to revive everyone killed by Cell, either.

Umm...

#17 was revived by both wishes, wasn't he?
And #8 was revived by, at the very least, the Boo wish...

So, why should #16 be a special case?

There's nothing in-universe to point to him not being revived by either wish, other than him simply not appearing on-screen. All the "#16 wasn't revived" stuff is simply fans speculating, and possibly a guidebook throwing out a silly handwave.

17 is, as described by Krillin (by way of talking about 18), "mostly human anyway. They just have some mechanical parts." 16 is a fully mechanical robot. It's not at all the same case.

As for 8, either he has enough of a human base to have come back with the second wish to Porunga in the Buu Arc, or he was brought back, along with all the cars, robots, computers, etc., in the first wish made, the one to restore the Earth. As for the Arale controversy mentioned above, you could apply the same to her. And if there had been a wish made to restore the damage done by Cell, et al., then 16 would more than likely have come back then, too.