Considering this take on the characters in comparison to the movies current take, what do people think?
Old artstyle vs New Artstyle 2.0
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Re: Old artstyle vs New Artstyle 2.0
There was a new Heroes advertisement that was taken in previous Yamamuro designs that showcased what the movie could potentially look like with the older approach.
Considering this take on the characters in comparison to the movies current take, what do people think?
Considering this take on the characters in comparison to the movies current take, what do people think?
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That buffed Broly is the definition of chonk. He doesn't even look like he should be able to move. The giant neck and fat face aren't helping things.
Everything else is...competent, I guess. It's obviously cheap-looking since it's Heroes, but at least has better color design than most of those episodes. The expressions are bland, the anatomy is stiff and Goku has too many bright skin/hair highlights, but weirdly Broly himself doesn't. Aside from the armor it's the least shiny he's looked in years, which is nice.
There's not a lot to say other than that even if Yamamuro stays on as an animator or supervisor he's not gonna change his style much, at least not for Goku. He's weirdly inconsistent, I'm not sure he even makes the decision of "to highlight, or not to highlight?" consciously, he just seems to be doing whatever recently.
Everything else is...competent, I guess. It's obviously cheap-looking since it's Heroes, but at least has better color design than most of those episodes. The expressions are bland, the anatomy is stiff and Goku has too many bright skin/hair highlights, but weirdly Broly himself doesn't. Aside from the armor it's the least shiny he's looked in years, which is nice.
There's not a lot to say other than that even if Yamamuro stays on as an animator or supervisor he's not gonna change his style much, at least not for Goku. He's weirdly inconsistent, I'm not sure he even makes the decision of "to highlight, or not to highlight?" consciously, he just seems to be doing whatever recently.
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The third and final trailer for the movie has been dropped.
What were peoples thoughts on the art and animation during it?
For me the looser styles were definitely my favourite from the trailer. Naoki Tate and Ryo Onishi dominated the trailer in terms of quality. Really hyped up for their stuff.
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For me the looser styles were definitely my favourite from the trailer. Naoki Tate and Ryo Onishi dominated the trailer in terms of quality. Really hyped up for their stuff.
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For me it was the complete opposite. The looser scenes combined with some of the more bad looking CG shots were the weakest points of the trailer for me. The scenes that were Takahashi, Takahashi corrected, or simply more stunning than the rest (for example, the shot at the end of LSSJ style Broly, who as of this moment we aren't sure who drew it) were the highlights. However, the difference in art quality is one of the inconsistency issues I hope don't plague the movie.JazzMazz wrote:The third and final trailer for the movie has been dropped.What were peoples thoughts on the art and animation during it?Spoiler:
For me the looser styles were definitely my favourite from the trailer. Naoki Tate and Ryo Onishi dominated the trailer in terms of quality. Really hyped up for their stuff.
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Holy crud that final shot with Goku/Vegeta looks like a reject from Xenoverse it was so awful.
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For me, I didn't really have any strong feelings about Takahashi's art. It was typical, and kind of underwhelming visually in comparison to the more robust loose animation which animators like Tate and Onishi were bringing to the table.DainIronfoot wrote:For me it was the complete opposite. The looser scenes combined with some of the more bad looking CG shots were the weakest points of the trailer for me. The scenes that were Takahashi, Takahashi corrected, or simply more stunning than the rest (for example, the shot at the end of LSSJ style Broly, who as of this moment we aren't sure who drew it) were the highlights. However, the difference in art quality is one of the inconsistency issues I hope don't plague the movie.JazzMazz wrote:The third and final trailer for the movie has been dropped.What were peoples thoughts on the art and animation during it?Spoiler:
For me the looser styles were definitely my favourite from the trailer. Naoki Tate and Ryo Onishi dominated the trailer in terms of quality. Really hyped up for their stuff.
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Thanks a lot.jjgp1112 wrote:Updated with all of the correct colors:
Anyway, what have peoples thoughts been on the trailers so far visually?
I think they honestly blow anything from the prior two DB movies out of the water animation wise, especially the more action oriented trailers.
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Awesome! Gotta say, I really don't like how low the collar is for the outer shirt is these days, it felt much more reasonable in DB/early Z.jjgp1112 wrote:Updated with all of the correct colors:
I think the animation style is fantastic. It's appropriately toned down for the mild scenes, but it gets so expressive in the more intense ones. There's much more "art" and passion on display here, as opposed to deader, more mathematical feeling of Yamamuro's art style (which left far less room for animation wonkyness so it always stuck out).JazzMazz wrote:Anyway, what have peoples thoughts been on the trailers so far visually?
I think they honestly blow anything from the prior two DB movies out of the water animation wise, especially the more action oriented trailers.
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Really liking the new version tbh.
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Other than their palette they look the same. Why do folks think "new" Gogeta has less window's peak? They don't. (To me anyway) But I always liked Gogeta because the ear rings of Vegeto just bug me.
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The peak is there, but if you compare the two it's much less pronounced than the old look. The slope of the peak isn't as steep and the point doesn't come as far down the forehead as it used to.GTx10 wrote:Why do folks think "new" Gogeta has less window's peak? They don't. (To me anyway)
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Even in that above shot the new one basically has the standard [Goku] hairline, whereas the old one was between Goku's hairline and Vegeta's massive peak.GTx10 wrote:Other than their palette they look the same. Why do folks think "new" Gogeta has less window's peak? They don't. (To me anyway)
It was the first thing that stood out immediately to me. I liked how the peak made him look more like a combination of Goku and Vegeta, rather than Goku with his hair sticking up like Vegetto looked (at least they both have the closed Vegeta eyes in base form), which is a bit of a shame. He still looks great in the new style and with the new colors though, and Blue Gogeta look amazing.
I can't wait for the new wave of Gogeta merch.
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I like Shintani's new poster well enough, but his style is a bit inconsistent to me. Sometimes it's a bit too soft and round, and other times like the design sheets it looks more angular and more appealing to me.
I think the poster makes Gogeta look too young and soft, and while I love the overall animation in the movie, a part of me still misses the classic Yamamuro designs:
I think the poster makes Gogeta look too young and soft, and while I love the overall animation in the movie, a part of me still misses the classic Yamamuro designs:
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The nose still looks off and I think the mouth is a bit too wide, but it's an improvement I think.Metalwario64 wrote:I like Shintani's new poster well enough, but his style is a bit inconsistent to me. Sometimes it's a bit too soft and round, and other times like the design sheets it looks more angular and more appealing to me.
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Yuya Takahashi has got us covered there.Metalwario64 wrote:I think the poster makes Gogeta look too young and soft, and while I love the overall animation in the movie, a part of me still misses the classic Yamamuro designs.
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I'd basically like his designs, but just a bit simpler and with shading more in line with Shintani's sheets. That would be an ideal modern look to me.Lord Beerus wrote:Yuya Takahashi has got us covered there.Metalwario64 wrote:I think the poster makes Gogeta look too young and soft, and while I love the overall animation in the movie, a part of me still misses the classic Yamamuro designs.
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That edit's really good. He's got a a lot more of a rugged, defined look, and the mouth in the original drawing is kinda weird.
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Shrunk the mouth and nose a bit, and added some shading to the face (which was there back on Z whenever someone had an aura, and should be here judging by his forehead and neck):
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