You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.PsionicWarrior wrote:Well I mean if a 100% promotional anime based on a side-product which is non canon turns out to have better intrigues, story, direction and animation than the official continuation aka Super with Toriyama behind it... I'll enjoy a good show but it will hurt lolAnimeNation101 wrote:How is it sad?PsionicWarrior wrote:Its's a bit sad to say this but from the plot and trailer this actually looks promising lol
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I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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I wonder the result of SSJ4 vs SSB Will be different in anime ?
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I think they will keep the same as before.gantarat wrote:I wonder the result of SSJ4 vs SSB Will be different in anime ?
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Yeah,but from in game story it not look like Xeno Goku lose By get KO or can't do anything to CC goku.majinwarman wrote:I think they will keep the same as before.gantarat wrote:I wonder the result of SSJ4 vs SSB Will be different in anime ?
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Let's see:AnimeNation101 wrote:You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.PsionicWarrior wrote:Well I mean if a 100% promotional anime based on a side-product which is non canon turns out to have better intrigues, story, direction and animation than the official continuation aka Super with Toriyama behind it... I'll enjoy a good show but it will hurt lolAnimeNation101 wrote: How is it sad?
Leaves all action to animators.
BoG film wasn't a pure idea was a rewritten script.
RF film was essentially the same film beat for beat.
DBS.
He wanted movies retold as arcs.
Newest DBS arc was a tournament.
Next big arc came from an idea from Toei but either way something fresh.
Next big arc being a MASSIVE tournament....
And he is now supposedly written a "multi layered" story for this new movie... I still find that hard to believe but this movie will be my last chance on him before I am in fully in the "Toriyama out" camp. I'm absolutely hoping he delivers! Surely Toei wouldn't go through all this trouble of literally changing DB's look for a shitty script so that is a crumb of comfort, I have.
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Dragon ball heroes is simply a spin off and likely a mini series compared to super.
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I agree. This film can honestly go either way. Even though it will never happen, Toriyama needs an editor again for big stuff like this.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Let's see:AnimeNation101 wrote:You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.PsionicWarrior wrote:
Well I mean if a 100% promotional anime based on a side-product which is non canon turns out to have better intrigues, story, direction and animation than the official continuation aka Super with Toriyama behind it... I'll enjoy a good show but it will hurt lol
Leaves all action to animators.
BoG film wasn't a pure idea was a rewritten script.
RF film was essentially the same film beat for beat.
DBS.
He wanted movies retold as arcs.
Newest DBS arc was a tournament.
Next big arc came from an idea from Toei but either way something fresh.
Next big arc being a MASSIVE tournament....
And he is now supposedly written a "multi layered" story for this new movie... I still find that hard to believe but this movie will be my last chance on him before I am in fully in the "Toriyama out" camp. I'm absolutely hoping he delivers! Surely Toei wouldn't go through all this trouble of literally changing DB's look for a shitty script so that is a crumb of comfort, I have.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"
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And I completely forgot to mention DB minus too...AnimeNation101 wrote:I agree. This film can honestly go either way. Even though it will never happen, Toriyama needs an editor again for big stuff like this.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Let's see:AnimeNation101 wrote: You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.
Leaves all action to animators.
BoG film wasn't a pure idea was a rewritten script.
RF film was essentially the same film beat for beat.
DBS.
He wanted movies retold as arcs.
Newest DBS arc was a tournament.
Next big arc came from an idea from Toei but either way something fresh.
Next big arc being a MASSIVE tournament....
And he is now supposedly written a "multi layered" story for this new movie... I still find that hard to believe but this movie will be my last chance on him before I am in fully in the "Toriyama out" camp. I'm absolutely hoping he delivers! Surely Toei wouldn't go through all this trouble of literally changing DB's look for a shitty script so that is a crumb of comfort, I have.
Agree he needs an editor. More often then not when creators are left to their own devices more often then not you'd find their output to be not so great.
Right now if everything said about the movie is true then I'll be more than satisfied but part of me is still very very cautious.
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The neat thing about Heroes is it will give us interesting battles and match ups we most likely wouldn't see in other forms of DB media. Though I wish this anime started at the beginning of the Heroes plot, I expected it to start at prison planet arc since it's obviously a commercial for the current content in the Heroes game. Still though, seeing ssj4 vs ssjb will be interesting.
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I don't want to think that way but if the story is bad then I'm joining the camp as well.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Let's see:AnimeNation101 wrote:You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.PsionicWarrior wrote:
Well I mean if a 100% promotional anime based on a side-product which is non canon turns out to have better intrigues, story, direction and animation than the official continuation aka Super with Toriyama behind it... I'll enjoy a good show but it will hurt lol
Leaves all action to animators.
BoG film wasn't a pure idea was a rewritten script.
RF film was essentially the same film beat for beat.
DBS.
He wanted movies retold as arcs.
Newest DBS arc was a tournament.
Next big arc came from an idea from Toei but either way something fresh.
Next big arc being a MASSIVE tournament....
And he is now supposedly written a "multi layered" story for this new movie... I still find that hard to believe but this movie will be my last chance on him before I am in fully in the "Toriyama out" camp. I'm absolutely hoping he delivers! Surely Toei wouldn't go through all this trouble of literally changing DB's look for a shitty script so that is a crumb of comfort, I have.
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Guys chill out already jeez toriyama out camp is ridiculous toei is just as flawed him and Toei are Toriyama's editors.
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We need both Tori and Toei working in tandem. Either when left to their own devices can make big mistakes, however Toei's adaption of Super has mostly been quality.
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Per Herms' Twitter, Cooler and The Evil Saiyan are confirmed.
Also Xeno versions of the characters are from alternate dimension confirmed.
I wander if Cooler's presence will be explained or just ignored?
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Also Xeno versions of the characters are from alternate dimension confirmed.
I wander if Cooler's presence will be explained or just ignored?
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What do you mean? The entire premise is that the Prison PLanet is full of fighters from alternate timelinesshadowmaria wrote:I wander if Cooler's presence will be explained or just ignored?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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I wonder who is that masked Saiyan is?shadowmaria wrote:Per Herms' Twitter, Cooler and The Evil Saiyan are confirmed.
Also Xeno versions of the characters are from alternate dimension confirmed.
I wander if Cooler's presence will be explained or just ignored?
[spoiler]
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It seems the second episode is confirmed to be aired on July 16th!
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Do we know how long each episode will be?
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It be argued that the best ideas Super had came from Toei but it most certainty be argued that the worst ideas Super had came from them as well.AnimeNation101 wrote:You know? Having Toriyama on board isn’t as good as you guys think it is. Toei comes up with better ideas than him sometimes.PsionicWarrior wrote:Well I mean if a 100% promotional anime based on a side-product which is non canon turns out to have better intrigues, story, direction and animation than the official continuation aka Super with Toriyama behind it... I'll enjoy a good show but it will hurt lolAnimeNation101 wrote: How is it sad?
But what we do know is Toriyama gave Toei enough Freedom with the Tournament of Power for them to make that into a good story, he let them write the personalities and abilities of the 65 characters, he let them decide how they would perform, he gave them a recruitment arc to develop what they wanted to focus on and most importantly, he gave them the biggest stakes Dragon Ball ever had.
Toriyama already has editors, its Toei and Toyo themselves. They take his conception and add execution, but Toei have never been good at execution, not even their own ideas.