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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Kanassa » Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am

Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 am
Kanassa wrote:
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Why Fuu? Why did you turn Cooler into the worst version fo Cooler with a lazy eye!?
That was Golden Cooler. The definition of anti-hype.
Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Xeogran » Thu May 09, 2019 3:59 am

Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am
Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 am
Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:03 am
Why Fuu? Why did you turn Cooler into the worst version fo Cooler with a lazy eye!?
That was Golden Cooler. The definition of anti-hype.
Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
Using one ki blast per 5 episodes that does nothing. Nah, I prefer Metal Cooler's showing from the movie.

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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

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I'm a bit disappointed with Kamioren design. I was hyped for this fusion and expecting something cooler than mix of Frieza and Sealas.
He/she doesn't look bad, but nothing outstanding really. Their base forms are much better.
I also hoped SDBH will ignore existence of this garbage SSBE 'form'.
Why is Evolved Blue a garbage? I mean it may not be a form that had any reason of existence for some people, it may be just ugly looking, but I personally don't think that it is garbage. State your opinion please.
I feel the same. It’s a recolor of a recolor, just a darker shade of blue.
It's supposed to resemble SSGSS hence the name is SSGSS Evolution it's like complaining SS2 has yellow hair like SS1. And it's not a recolour of a recolour he has pupils, more muscles and longer hair. That's like me again saying SS2 is just SS1 with lame sparky effects.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu May 09, 2019 5:23 am

Weird how Trunks is just never uses his rage form or whatever. I mean heroes goes all out on pretty much everyone else when it comes to forms. Trunks does it in the previous OP, but for some reason never uses it in the show itself. I mean I never liked the rage form, but it may as well show up just for the fanservice for Trunks fans.

Not much else to really say about the episode. It's a thing. I don't expect much from it and I'm curious what it should be compared to for promotional 10 minute or so shorts. I'm unaware of anything to compare to that has dialogue and fight scenes, etc. All to promote a brand.
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Kanassa » Thu May 09, 2019 8:16 am

Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:59 am
Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am
Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 am


That was Golden Cooler. The definition of anti-hype.
Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
Using one ki blast per 5 episodes that does nothing. Nah, I prefer Metal Cooler's showing from the movie.
Lazy ally is better than useless antagonist. THough, I was more talking about design than anything.
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Xeogran » Thu May 09, 2019 9:23 am

Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 8:16 am
Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:59 am
Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am


Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
Using one ki blast per 5 episodes that does nothing. Nah, I prefer Metal Cooler's showing from the movie.
Lazy ally is better than useless antagonist. THough, I was more talking about design than anything.
How was he useless? Almost took over New Namek and won the arc, were it not for movie logic where he had to die at the end.

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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Thu May 09, 2019 11:43 am

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Weird how Trunks is just never uses his rage form or whatever. I mean heroes goes all out on pretty much everyone else when it comes to forms. Trunks does it in the previous OP, but for some reason never uses it in the show itself. I mean I never liked the rage form, but it may as well show up just for the fanservice for Trunks fans.

Not much else to really say about the episode. It's a thing. I don't expect much from it and I'm curious what it should be compared to for promotional 10 minute or so shorts. I'm unaware of anything to compare to that has dialogue and fight scenes, etc. All to promote a brand.
Truth be told, when Goku was brought to his knees by Lagss and then Hearts pinned him down, I expected Trunks to unlock his Rage form and charge with Vegeta towards Hearts. Also, I was expecting AT LEAST one blast from Toppo against Zamasu or Hearts, but never got it. Nor his expression at Evolved Blue Vegeta. Too bad.

I loved the episode though. It had a good flow, with amazing fights that promised for some fast-paced action that Heroes lacked as of recently. Yup, I am alright with Heroes being whatever. I didn't ask for it and I am getting it.
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu May 09, 2019 12:14 pm

This episode was boring. Also what happened to Kamin and Oren? They weren't even shown at the end of episode. Did they stay in Jiren's universe or what lol.

Also, is Meta Cooler stronger than Golden Cooler or Fu simply cloned Cooler? I don't get it. Why would he turn him into weaker version, even if its much better (let's be real).
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Thu May 09, 2019 12:34 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
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This episode was boring. Also what happened to Kamin and Oren? They weren't even shown at the end of episode. Did they stay in Jiren's universe or what lol.

Also, is Meta Cooler stronger than Golden Cooler or Fu simply cloned Cooler? I don't get it. Why would he turn him into weaker version, even if its much better (let's be real).
I kinda enjoyed Vegeta wrecking these spoiled brats. Anyway, theor concept reminds me of Baby so I like them, back to the point though, they mkst definitely went back to Hearts after being beaten.

Also, I think that this Meta Cooler is from another timeline. Not the roginal one, but the one who cloned himself into machines. Perhaps Fu has upgraded him and his army of Metas. We shall see. Golden Cooler not being a thing though sounds bad for marketing. I mean, he probably escaped, no way would he be killed by Fu.

It also sounds interesting. Cooler escaping this rampage and managing leaving from the Prison Planet without being involved in a new conflict. Which is why we need Meta Cooler. To have that element of his.
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Post by The Monkey King » Thu May 09, 2019 12:36 pm

SSJ Colgate vs Aquafresh was a decent fight :lol:
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Kanassa » Thu May 09, 2019 1:14 pm

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Also, I think that this Meta Cooler is from another timeline. Not the roginal one, but the one who cloned himself into machines. Perhaps Fu has upgraded him and his army of Metas. We shall see. Golden Cooler not being a thing though sounds bad for marketing. I mean, he probably escaped, no way would he be killed by Fu.
The manga is the only version of the Prison Planet story where Cooler didn't chase after Fuu, so I think the implication is supposed to be that Cooler's chase ended with Fu capturing him and either creating a duplicate or Darth Vader-ing him. I'm hoping this ends with Cooler having his 'YOU CAN'T TAKE MY PRIDE!' moment.
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Using one ki blast per 5 episodes that does nothing. Nah, I prefer Metal Cooler's showing from the movie.
Lazy ally is better than useless antagonist. THough, I was more talking about design than anything.
How was he useless? Almost took over New Namek and won the arc, were it not for movie logic where he had to die at the end.
He took over a planet that is a replicate of a planet even his weaker brother in a much weaker form had little trouble subjugating and only managed to last the movie's run time because the good guys held back before basically handing Goku and Vegeta the win on a silver platter even at their weakest.

Even in the shitty, shallow anime version of Prison Planet he at least brought Goku back from beserk, told them how Cumber's abilities worked and (I think?) held off Cumber for a moment.

Can we at least agree the game version was better character-wise?
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Post by SupremeKai25 » Thu May 09, 2019 2:51 pm

That Zamasu vs. Jiren scene was so cool. It definitely proves that brute strength is meaningless against the power of divine immortality.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu May 09, 2019 4:18 pm

Would I be justified in saying that the best thing about this series is the opening?
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Post by Xeogran » Thu May 09, 2019 4:20 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
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This episode was boring. Also what happened to Kamin and Oren? They weren't even shown at the end of episode. Did they stay in Jiren's universe or what lol.
Episode 12 summary revealed that they went to U7 with Hearts and will fuse into Kamioren again for some reason.
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Would I be justified in saying that the best thing about this series is the opening?
If we're speaking about out of universe things, the best thing is Koyasu's performance as Hearts. He feels so charismatic and lively.

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Post by JohnnyCashKami » Thu May 09, 2019 8:25 pm

Couldn't Crunchyroll get the rights to release it subtitled?

It's a crappy series but watchable.

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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Dbzfan94 » Fri May 10, 2019 11:48 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 4:37 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:35 pm
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Why is Evolved Blue a garbage? I mean it may not be a form that had any reason of existence for some people, it may be just ugly looking, but I personally don't think that it is garbage. State your opinion please.
I feel the same. It’s a recolor of a recolor, just a darker shade of blue.
It's supposed to resemble SSGSS hence the name is SSGSS Evolution it's like complaining SS2 has yellow hair like SS1. And it's not a recolour of a recolour he has pupils, more muscles and longer hair. That's like me again saying SS2 is just SS1 with lame sparky effects.
I understand it’s supposed to resemble Blue. I still don’t like it. Nitpicking aside the form is still just a darker shade of blue. You can like it, no one is stopping you. But it’s by far my least favorite “form”

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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat May 11, 2019 6:16 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am
Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 am
Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:03 am
Why Fuu? Why did you turn Cooler into the worst version fo Cooler with a lazy eye!?
That was Golden Cooler. The definition of anti-hype.
Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
If Meta Cooler is chrome vomit, Golden Cooler is yellow vomit.

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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by Kanassa » Sat May 11, 2019 6:18 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 6:16 pm
Kanassa wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:23 am
Xeogran wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 am


That was Golden Cooler. The definition of anti-hype.
Golden Cooler was at least cool. Metal Cooler is, at best, is chrome vomit
If Meta Cooler is chrome vomit, Golden Cooler is yellow vomit.
Golden vomit you mean.
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Post by HeroR » Sat May 11, 2019 8:19 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:48 am
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Thu May 09, 2019 4:37 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:35 pm


I feel the same. It’s a recolor of a recolor, just a darker shade of blue.
It's supposed to resemble SSGSS hence the name is SSGSS Evolution it's like complaining SS2 has yellow hair like SS1. And it's not a recolour of a recolour he has pupils, more muscles and longer hair. That's like me again saying SS2 is just SS1 with lame sparky effects.
I understand it’s supposed to resemble Blue. I still don’t like it. Nitpicking aside the form is still just a darker shade of blue. You can like it, no one is stopping you. But it’s by far my least favorite “form”
While Evolved isn't my favorite form, it's more than a slight color changed. Vegeta's body gets notably bigger like Super Vegeta, his eyes gains shades like Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan God, and UI, and his aura is different.
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Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Post by sangofe » Sun May 12, 2019 7:53 am

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It was indeed Bandai that approached Toei/Shueisha about doing a new series in 2008/2009. They had Heroes that had successfully made the transfer from the previous Carddass arcade titles and was really making a name for itself with all of its new innovations, and they wanted a TV series to support it.

If you read between the lines, they wanted a Heroes show. Toriyama shot down whatever the idea was, and so in response (and everyone else still wanting "new" Dragon Ball on TV to support this growing merchandise empire), Kazuhiko Torishima pitched the idea of re-editing the old show. Thus, Kai.

Torishima himself is the one who tells this story, which comes from one of the bonus videos on Kaze's Dragon Ball Kai releases. I believe sangofe & co. subtitled it at one point, but I don't have the exact video handy right now.

The current promo anime feels like a decade-delayed consolation prize.
I did indeed translate those interviews. I translated from French subs with someone with a good level in Japanese and English checking the translation.
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