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What crazy relationships will Toriyama come up with in the future?

Post by DestructoDisc » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:30 pm

EDIT: Toriyama, not "Troiyama". I'm sorry, I really don't know how did I manage to mess up the title like that.

Toriyama is known for giving us crazy and unexpected relationships like Bulma and Vegeta, Krillin and 18, and most recently, Trunks and Mai. What unexpected relationships do you think he will give us next?

I won't be surprised if he will give us Cabba and Bra or Pan and Pilaf.

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Post by PFM18 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:59 pm

I so want to see Cabba and Bra. But I mean they live in entirely different Universes so I don't know how that would work. Kind of the epitome of a "Long distance relationship"

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:06 pm

Dr Gero x Pan
i actually saw a NSFW comic like that :lol:

But seriously, Goten x Maron could be a thing if anyone working on DBS remembered that in ToP arc she is supposed to be in the same age as Pan in GT and almost the same age as Gohan in Cell games. But no, she looks like this:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
The same goes for Goten and Trunks honestly. Just WTF...

I can't see Toriyama pairing Pan with anyone because she is still too young at the end of Z so if GT Pan wasn't paired with anyone (except unknown husband she had) then i don't think she ever will. Unless Toriyama decide to actually continue end of Z and replace GT.
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Post by Tai Lung » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:31 pm

goku x caulifla? out of I never really liked chichi goku will live much longer than she
cabba x bra/bura just to see the reaction of vegeta :D
[spoiler]Image
Image[/spoiler]
marron x goten you can see that they get along and play together
sunsetshimmer wrote:she is supposed to be in the same age as Pan in GT and almost the same age as Gohan in Cell games. But no, she looks like this:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
The same goes for Goten and Trunks honestly. Just WTF...
that is common in DB
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
it is assumed that bra and pan are almost the same age according to the epilogue of z besides they are younger than marron
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:47 pm

Tai Lung wrote: Image
That pic is actually isn't the best axample. This ending made characters look different. Marron is taller than that. She looks like small kid here.
But yeah, Bra's height is overall too much. Pan and Marron look fine.
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Post by PFM18 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:50 pm

Tai Lung wrote:goku x caulifla? out of I never really liked chichi goku will live much longer than she
cabba x bra/bura just to see the reaction of vegeta :D
[spoiler]Image
Image[/spoiler]
marron x goten you can see that they get along and play together
sunsetshimmer wrote:she is supposed to be in the same age as Pan in GT and almost the same age as Gohan in Cell games. But no, she looks like this:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
The same goes for Goten and Trunks honestly. Just WTF...
that is common in DB
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
it is assumed that bra and pan are almost the same age according to the epilogue of z besides they are younger than marron
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Wait I thought Bra was supposed to be 3 during EoZ and Pan was 4?

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Post by Tai Lung » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:13 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:goku x caulifla? out of I never really liked chichi goku will live much longer than she
cabba x bra/bura just to see the reaction of vegeta :D
[spoiler]Image
Image[/spoiler]
marron x goten you can see that they get along and play together
sunsetshimmer wrote:she is supposed to be in the same age as Pan in GT and almost the same age as Gohan in Cell games. But no, she looks like this:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
The same goes for Goten and Trunks honestly. Just WTF...
that is common in DB
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
it is assumed that bra and pan are almost the same age according to the epilogue of z besides they are younger than marron
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Wait I thought Bra was supposed to be 3 during EoZ and Pan was 4?
that's right pan is bigger for a year and 4 months

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Post by PFM18 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:29 pm

Tai Lung wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:goku x caulifla? out of I never really liked chichi goku will live much longer than she
cabba x bra/bura just to see the reaction of vegeta :D
[spoiler]Image
Image[/spoiler]
marron x goten you can see that they get along and play together



that is common in DB
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
it is assumed that bra and pan are almost the same age according to the epilogue of z besides they are younger than marron
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Wait I thought Bra was supposed to be 3 during EoZ and Pan was 4?
that's right pan is bigger for a year and 4 months
Then why does Bra look 15 in that pic if she is supposed to be 3??

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Post by Tai Lung » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:38 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Wait I thought Bra was supposed to be 3 during EoZ and Pan was 4?
that's right pan is bigger for a year and 4 months
Then why does Bra look 15 in that pic if she is supposed to be 3??
in gt? .. it's a mistake of toei

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Post by Cetra » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:14 pm

Tai Lung wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
that's right pan is bigger for a year and 4 months
Then why does Bra look 15 in that pic if she is supposed to be 3??
in gt? .. it's a mistake of toei
Yeah, sure. That Akira Toriyama (!) designed everyone of the main cast, including provocatively dressed and older looking Bra is just another mistake of Toei.

PFM, Bra in GT is about 8, not 3. The picture is as mentioned from GT.

And your next post makes no sense because you did not understand that you literally answered a confusing question about EoZ Bra mixed up with GT Bra then even more expanded upon with literal height instead of telling the guy that this is not 3 year old Bra.
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Post by PFM18 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:28 pm

Cetra wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Then why does Bra look 15 in that pic if she is supposed to be 3??
in gt? .. it's a mistake of toei
Yeah, sure. That Akira Toriyama (!) designed everyone of the main cast, including provocatively dressed and older looking Bra is just another mistake of Toei.

PFM, Bra in GT is about 8, not 3. The picture is as mentioned from GT.
I thought we were discussing the EoZ

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Post by Cetra » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:33 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Cetra wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
in gt? .. it's a mistake of toei
Yeah, sure. That Akira Toriyama (!) designed everyone of the main cast, including provocatively dressed and older looking Bra is just another mistake of Toei.

PFM, Bra in GT is about 8, not 3. The picture is as mentioned from GT.
I thought we were discussing the EoZ
Someone posted a picture with their GT designs, was that not what you were wondering about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4fP5p9w64

There you have young(er) Bra.
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Post by Tai Lung » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:43 pm

Cetra wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Then why does Bra look 15 in that pic if she is supposed to be 3??
in gt? .. it's a mistake of toei
Yeah, sure. That Akira Toriyama (!) designed everyone of the main cast, including provocatively dressed and older looking Bra is just another mistake of Toei.

PFM, Bra in GT is about 8, not 3. The picture is as mentioned from GT.
this is the author's design
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
and the truth is not that it is very clear, it is not to scale
in dragon ball perfect files it is mentioned that bra is greater than pan but that is not true so ..

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:07 pm

Those are designs Toriyama gave to TOEI for GT. And below are some shots of Bra in series to compare.
Also remember that height may vary between episodes. It's never consistent honestly, not just in GT but in DB overall.
So Bra had slutty outfit because of Toriyama. But other than that, she somehow looks younger than in GT and not much different from Pan.
So it actually might be TOEI's fault for making her look too old. She had figure and long legs like teen girl at least.
Overall her torso and other parts were mostly like Pan's, but her legs made her too high. Her arms are also longer.
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Here when sitting she doesn't look much different from Pan.
She is taller but being 1 year younger it's still possible. Pan might be just naturally shorter.
She looks totally fine here.

Image

But here she is waaay too high, but just look at her legs and compare them to the rest of her body:

Image
But Pan was also inconsistent in series. Sometimes she had bigger head, shorter legs and overall looked younger (even younger than in Toriyama's design) and sometimes she had older figure looking more like a teen with legs noticably longer. This type of her look is in Xenoverse for example.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:27 pm

I want Freeza to get married. I think that would be an interesting twist. Maybe to a certain new green soldier of his? There's not enough team-ups between couples!
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Post by PFM18 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:44 pm

JulieYBM wrote:I want Freeza to get married. I think that would be an interesting twist. Maybe to a certain new green soldier of his? There's not enough team-ups between couples!
Then we could have green Freeza babies!
Cetra wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Cetra wrote:
Yeah, sure. That Akira Toriyama (!) designed everyone of the main cast, including provocatively dressed and older looking Bra is just another mistake of Toei.

PFM, Bra in GT is about 8, not 3. The picture is as mentioned from GT.
I thought we were discussing the EoZ
Someone posted a picture with their GT designs, was that not what you were wondering about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4fP5p9w64

There you have young(er) Bra.
I thought they were saying the picture was from EoZ is why I was confused because she looks like 15 but she is 3 during EoZ

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Post by DestructoDisc » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:25 am

JulieYBM wrote:I want Freeza to get married. I think that would be an interesting twist. Maybe to a certain new green soldier of his? There's not enough team-ups between couples!
Doubt that will happen because from what I heard Freeza is genderless.

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Post by Tai Lung » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 am

the sister of bulma (tights) x the brother of caulifla (renso) maybe?

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Post by Yuli Ban » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:00 am

If Broly survives, I want him to mate with [spoiler]Caulifla[/spoiler].
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:54 am

Beerus/that pop star in the Great Saiyaman movie episode
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