Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:40 am

Meridith Mccoy in the original in-house Funi dub

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by 90sDBZ » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:56 am

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90sDBZ wrote:Brian Drummond in the Westwood dub. I didn't enjoy his performance as much as in the Saban era because he couldn't go all out with the psychotic stuff due to Vegeta calming down as a character. Having said that he still manages to deliver a decent performance which is a more grounded version of his earlier Vegeta. I still prefer Sabat as the more calm and collected Vegeta, but Drummond does a decent job of it too.
Vegeta was at his most psychotic in those earlier episodes. I don't understand your point.
My point? :? I'm saying that I like Drummond's Vegeta a lot more during those early episodes when the story allowed him to play Vegeta as a maniac, but I still think his later performance stands above the other Westwood dub performances. Basically I think his good guy Vegeta is decent, but feels a little underwhelming compared to his villainous Vegeta.

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

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90sDBZ wrote:Brian Drummond in the Westwood dub. I didn't enjoy his performance as much as in the Saban era because he couldn't go all out with the psychotic stuff due to Vegeta calming down as a character. Having said that he still manages to deliver a decent performance which is a more grounded version of his earlier Vegeta. I still prefer Sabat as the more calm and collected Vegeta, but Drummond does a decent job of it too.
Vegeta was at his most psychotic in those earlier episodes. I don't understand your point.
My point? :? I'm saying that I like Drummond's Vegeta a lot more during those early episodes when the story allowed him to play Vegeta as a maniac, but I still think his later performance stands above the other Westwood dub performances. Basically I think his good guy Vegeta is decent, but feels a little underwhelming compared to his villainous Vegeta.
My bad. Sorry, for whatever reason, I read that as "I didn't enjoy his performance as much IN". I didn't see the second "as" which clearly changes the entire meaning. I read it several times and somehow skipped over that word.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by TheBigBoy » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:52 pm

The guy that played Ginyu in the Ocean dub was great. Sorta surprised to see the love for Dale Kelly's Ginyu from the in-house Funi dub. I thought he was actually one of the worst voices from that initial cast(and that's saying something!). To each his own!.

As other's have said, James Marsters feels like a professional in a sea of amateurs.

I always enjoyed Chris Rager's Mr. Satan. He sounds like an 80's pro wrestler...which is pretty much what he is.

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Post by Attitudefan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:33 pm

I think Drummond played Vegeta in the Westwood portion just fine. His performance is better than Sabat's Vegeta hands down back then. Drummond is a great actor and very versatile and was far ahead of many of his peers. Sabat has caught up to him, especially in Dragon Ball roles these days.
The guy that played Ginyu in the Ocean dub was great. Sorta surprised to see the love for Dale Kelly's Ginyu from the in-house Funi dub. I thought he was actually one of the worst voices from that initial cast(and that's saying something!). To each his own!.
Yeah, Ocean Ginyu is fantastic. A perfect fit. Personally, I really love Dale Kelly's take on it, which is completely the opposite of his predecessor's take. However, both are equally Ginyu. I'd say look up Dale Kelly again, and he outshines everyone around him at the time. I'd still say his role still stands pretty well today except his first episode. Watch his performance during the fight with Krillin and Gohan and you will see he does a fine job. It was an absolute downgrade to have Brice play Ginyu. The energy wasn't there anymore.
I always enjoyed Chris Rager's Mr. Satan. He sounds like an 80's pro wrestler...which is pretty much what he is.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:59 pm

I think Kelamis' screams were on-point but his overall acting needed some work. Probably the best English (and foreign) Goku though.

I quite like Bang Zoom's Kuririn and Bulma. Their Freeza isn't bad either, although not as good as Chris. I like Whis, too.

Shout-out to Marsters as well, even if he started off on the wrong foot with Xenoverse 2.

Henrique Feist may be known for his Goku voice in the Portuguese dub, but I think his best work is Trunks, even if his Goku isn't all that bad. Spínola is good as Vegeta, too, much prefer him to Loy.

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by 90sDBZ » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:45 pm

I already mentioned Drummond's Westwood Vegeta and I just remembered his Vegito voice which deserves a mention too. That voice he uses suits the character and sounds like a believable midway point between his Vegeta and Kirby Morrow's Goku. I think it's actually pretty close to his normal speaking voice. In any case it sounds good.

Also the main trio of Kid Goku, Trunks and Pan all sound good compared to most of the Blue Water GT voices. Zoe Sulsar was actually not a bad Kid Goku and was good in OG DB too.

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

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TheBigBoy wrote: I always enjoyed Chris Rager's Mr. Satan. He sounds like an 80's pro wrestler...which is pretty much what he is.
Can't believe I forgot to list this one. Mr. Satan was my favorite voice in Funi's original dub.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

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TheBigBoy wrote: As other's have said, James Marsters feels like a professional in a sea of amateurs.
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I have a co-worker friend who refused to believe me when I told him Emmy Rossum is actually a fantastic actor if you ever watched her outside of Dragon Ball Evolution

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:08 pm

I'll also say that despite the scripts, most of the Ocean performances were fine.
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8000 Saiyan wrote:I'll also say that despite the scripts, most of the Ocean performances were fine.
Well they did have the best English Goku, Gohan, Bulma, and Piccolo...

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:04 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:I'll also say that despite the scripts, most of the Ocean performances were fine.
Well they did have the best English Goku, Gohan, Bulma, and Piccolo...
I'm more partial to Monica Rial's version, although she did irritate me at times.
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8000 Saiyan wrote:I'll also say that despite the scripts, most of the Ocean performances were fine.
Well they did have the best English Goku, Gohan, Bulma, and Piccolo...
I'm more partial to Monica Rial's version, although she did irritate me at times.
Lalaina and Monica are neck and neck. I only slightly prefer Lalaina. Both are leaps and bounds better than Tiffany

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Post by ABED » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:20 pm

David Squatch Ward's voice alone is amazing.

I've always liked Brice Armstrong.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:27 pm

ABED wrote:David Squatch Ward's voice alone is amazing.

I've always liked Brice Armstrong.
Yeah, Brice Armstrong's voice is great. I loved his Lord Slug.

I don't recall much of the Cooler movie dubs, but Andrew Chandler was awesome as Cooler.
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Post by TheBigBoy » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:36 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:I'll also say that despite the scripts, most of the Ocean performances were fine.
Well they were experienced voice actors and not a bunch of people hired off the street so yeah. I would love to see the series dubbed with the ocean cast with the same production as seen in Pioneer's work in movies 1-3.

One more thing, we all love Scott Mcneil's Piccolo, right? He just sounds so damn COOL. He also has this awesome, demonic sounding scream. I think he uses it as Jeice too during the Ginyu Force introduction.

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:50 pm

Yes. Even though Sabat perfected his Piccolo in Kai, Scott Mcneil is still the best. I really don’t think there’s a bad
Ocean voice actor at least in the Saban days.

Even if you don’t like Pauline Newstone’s Frieza, for example,the performance itself is sufficient even if she was miscast. Opposed to Linda Young who was miscast and just did an awful job (no offense)

Its a shame the Ocean cast was poorly directed during the Westwood years

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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:59 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:Yes. Even though Sabat perfected his Piccolo in Kai, Scott Mcneil is still the best. I really don’t think there’s a bad
Ocean voice actor at least in the Saban days.

Even if you don’t like Pauline Newstone’s Frieza, for example,the performance itself is sufficient even if she was miscast. Opposed to Linda Young who was miscast and just did an awful job (no offense)

Its a shame the Ocean cast was poorly directed during the Westwood years
I thought that Tien's VA was quite cringy. Then again, none of Tien's English VA's do it for me.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by ABED » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:06 am

I like John Burgmeier, even with the rasp.
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Re: Stand out performances in otherwise mediocre dubs

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:45 pm

ABED wrote:I like John Burgmeier, even with the rasp.
He sounded a lot better without it.
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