Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

[SSJmole]

Lots from me. But a few I'll mention is

Move names - it's easier to say example special beam cannon. Sounds awesome and easy to quote remember

From super : "sure let's go see Yanacha" lol I don't know why but the idea Vegeta is jealous and petty towards yamcha over bulma is just Wonderful.

Also I am nostalgic for "rock the dragon" theme and I'm sad it's never used any more

[John Pannozzi]

I quite like that they changed the name of Videl's superhero identity from "Great Saiyaman #2" to "Saiyagirl".

[Valerius Dover]

I quite like that they changed the name of Videl's superhero identity from "Great Saiyaman #2" to "Saiyagirl".

Yeah, I agree that it's a better name. They did revert to Saiyaman #2 in Wrath of the Dragon, though.

[MasenkoHA]

I quite like that they changed the name of Videl's superhero identity from "Great Saiyaman #2" to "Saiyagirl".

Saiyagirl? That’s not very PC. What about Saiyawoman or Saiyaperson.

[Valerius Dover]

I quite like that they changed the name of Videl's superhero identity from "Great Saiyaman #2" to "Saiyagirl".

Saiyagirl? That’s not very PC. What about Saiyawoman or Saiyaperson.

It was Saiyawoman in GT, at least.

[KBABZ]

I quite like that they changed the name of Videl's superhero identity from "Great Saiyaman #2" to "Saiyagirl".

Saiyagirl? That’s not very PC. What about Saiyawoman or Saiyaperson.

It was Saiyawoman in GT, at least.

I believe it was also Saiyawoman in the Kai Final Chapters EoZ episodes, too.

[Robo4900]

Saiyagirl? That’s not very PC. What about Saiyawoman or Saiyaperson.

It was Saiyawoman in GT, at least.

I believe it was also Saiyawoman in the Kai Final Chapters EoZ episodes, too.

I'm kinda glad they flip-flopped on that.
Saiyawoman/Saiyagirl does just sound better than Saiyaman #2.
Plus, I have a hard time believing Videl would let herself be called anyone's #2.

Okay, as someone who absolutely prefers watching the Japanese version not just because that's how I usually watch anime but also because of the excessive amount of unnecessary changes made in the DB dub I will admit that they did make one change that not only didn't bother me but that I wholeheartedly support. I actually appreciate that Mr. Popo does not speak in a broken dialect like he does in that Japanese version. His appearance is troublesome enough (though I don't think that justifies censorship) but I think having him speak broken English in the dub would have just made the situation worse.

I agree.
In fact, I really appreciate that he's often been depicted with quite a sophisticated way of speaking in the dubs.

[KBABZ]

I have a hard time believing Videl would let herself be called anyone's #2.

Well, maybe the stay at home mom Videl from Super... wouldn't know a punch if it hit her in the face...

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

I have a hard time believing Videl would let herself be called anyone's #2.

Well, maybe the stay at home mom Videl from Super... wouldn't know a punch if it hit her in the face...

Yeah, i definitely prefer the Z version of her in the show and movies. In Super she really gets sidelined and doesn't do much of anything really.

[KBABZ]

I have a hard time believing Videl would let herself be called anyone's #2.

Well, maybe the stay at home mom Videl from Super... wouldn't know a punch if it hit her in the face...

Yeah, i definitely prefer the Z version of her in the show and movies. In Super she really gets sidelined and doesn't do much of anything really.

She kinda gets it in GT as well because the writers clearly didn't know what to do with her (why do her and Chi-Chi both have the exact same skin-taught hair bun style???) but at least she has some semblance of independence in her character design. Her look in Super is more appropriate for her old schoolmate Erasa!

[Robo4900]

I have a hard time believing Videl would let herself be called anyone's #2.

Well, maybe the stay at home mom Videl from Super... wouldn't know a punch if it hit her in the face...

Yeah, i definitely prefer the Z version of her in the show and movies. In Super she really gets sidelined and doesn't do much of anything really.

Yes... It's almost as if Super regularly flanderises characters in nonsensical ways so it can nominally squeeze in tons of characters in the form of what is basically cardboard cutouts who look like those characters while not actually putting in the work of using the characters they're supposedly depicting...

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Well, maybe the stay at home mom Videl from Super... wouldn't know a punch if it hit her in the face...

Yeah, i definitely prefer the Z version of her in the show and movies. In Super she really gets sidelined and doesn't do much of anything really.

Yes... It's almost as if Super regularly flanderises characters in nonsensical ways so it can nominally squeeze in tons of characters while not actually depicting those characters, instead just giving us cardboard cutouts that look like those characters to get to our nostalgia, without actually putting in the work of using the characters...

My point exactly, they change them so much character wise in a bunch of different directions while giving them next to nothing to do. Case in point with Videl as mentioned by KBABZ above, because in DBZ primarily she actually played a fairly decent albeit supporting role in the Great Saiyaman/Buu arcs and same as with the movies in that span of time where she appears in the series. In Super on the other hand, she barely makes any useful contributions and is pretty much stuck on the sidelines.

[Robo4900]

Yeah, i definitely prefer the Z version of her in the show and movies. In Super she really gets sidelined and doesn't do much of anything really.

Yes... It's almost as if Super regularly flanderises characters in nonsensical ways so it can nominally squeeze in tons of characters while not actually depicting those characters, instead just giving us cardboard cutouts that look like those characters to get to our nostalgia, without actually putting in the work of using the characters...

My point exactly, they change them in certain different directions while giving them next to nothing to do. Case in point with Videl as mentioned by KBABZ above, because in DBZ primarily she actually played a fairly decent role in the Saiyaman/Buu arcs and same with the movies in that span of time where she appears in the series.

Exactly. Far better to just not use her at all; if all you're going to do is throw her on screen as "a mother" with all her actual character drained away as the plot demands, then I'd rather they just leave her out all-together...
I can see some room for her to grow as a character by exploring what her life becomes with motherhood, but if the result is a drainage of all character, my disinterest and disdain is difficult to express in words.

If only there was a Dragon Ball series that was brave enough to decide to jettison characters who aren't relevant to its current story so it can focus on just a few at a time and really give them the limelight they deserve...
Oh wait, that's literally all of them except Super.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Yes... It's almost as if Super regularly flanderises characters in nonsensical ways so it can nominally squeeze in tons of characters while not actually depicting those characters, instead just giving us cardboard cutouts that look like those characters to get to our nostalgia, without actually putting in the work of using the characters...

My point exactly, they change them in certain different directions while giving them next to nothing to do. Case in point with Videl as mentioned by KBABZ above, because in DBZ primarily she actually played a fairly decent role in the Saiyaman/Buu arcs and same with the movies in that span of time where she appears in the series.

Exactly. Far better to just not use her at all; if all you're going to do is throw her on screen as "a mother" with all her actual character drained away as the plot demands, then I'd rather they just leave her out all-together...

If only there was a Dragon Ball series that was brave enough to decide to jettison characters who aren't relevant to its current story so it can focus on just a few at a time and really give them the limelight they deserve...

I mean hell they brought back Emperor Pilaf, Mai and Shu starting with Battle of Gods from the depths of irrelevance who were all pretty much discarded in terms of the overall story after the original series and only barely at best figured into GT minus the first episode, but in Super they are only there primarily for just comic relief and what have you though not really being useful for much else. But then again, they have always been characterized that way from the start as incompetent villain characters so there's no surprise there.

[KBABZ]

Yes... It's almost as if Super regularly flanderises characters in nonsensical ways so it can nominally squeeze in tons of characters while not actually depicting those characters, instead just giving us cardboard cutouts that look like those characters to get to our nostalgia, without actually putting in the work of using the characters...

My point exactly, they change them in certain different directions while giving them next to nothing to do. Case in point with Videl as mentioned by KBABZ above, because in DBZ primarily she actually played a fairly decent role in the Saiyaman/Buu arcs and same with the movies in that span of time where she appears in the series.

Exactly. Far better to just not use her at all; if all you're going to do is throw her on screen as "a mother" with all her actual character drained away as the plot demands, then I'd rather they just leave her out all-together...
I can see some room for her to grow as a character by exploring what her life becomes with motherhood, but if the result is a drainage of all character, my disinterest and disdain is difficult to express in words.

If only there was a Dragon Ball series that was brave enough to decide to jettison characters who aren't relevant to its current story so it can focus on just a few at a time and really give them the limelight they deserve...
Oh wait, that's literally all of them except Super.

I think it'd be more acceptable if Super took on a slight anthology series approach and limited its cast to those needed for the immediate story rather than trying to include everyone. The original manga was a bit bad at this by trying to include literally EVERYONE prior that Toriyama could remember, which resulted in huge ensemble casts with suspicious absences, such as Launch slipping to the wayside followed by Yamcha and Tien and Chiaotzu.

This is particularly a problem in the recent movies. It's fine with the Reunion Special feel of Yo! considering it's ultimate inconsequential-ness, but in Battle of Gods it's REEEEEEEALLY obvious that only 10% of the cast is being used, and it comes up again in RoF where characters like Gohan and Krillin get about ten seconds to set up future plotlines that may or may no go anywhere.

Personally, I feel like one of Broly's greatest strengths is how it deliberately limits its cast in smart ways. We don't have the plot clogged up with Tien or Yamcha or Roshi, we have a slim cast which gives more room for characterization with important people like Broly and Cheelai. Trunks and Goten are used for a small cameo to help get the plot going rather than making comments on the sidelines to remind you they exist, and Piccolo appears just when they need him to teach Fusion because he knew it in the Buu saga.

[Robo4900]

My point exactly, they change them in certain different directions while giving them next to nothing to do. Case in point with Videl as mentioned by KBABZ above, because in DBZ primarily she actually played a fairly decent role in the Saiyaman/Buu arcs and same with the movies in that span of time where she appears in the series.

Exactly. Far better to just not use her at all; if all you're going to do is throw her on screen as "a mother" with all her actual character drained away as the plot demands, then I'd rather they just leave her out all-together...
I can see some room for her to grow as a character by exploring what her life becomes with motherhood, but if the result is a drainage of all character, my disinterest and disdain is difficult to express in words.

If only there was a Dragon Ball series that was brave enough to decide to jettison characters who aren't relevant to its current story so it can focus on just a few at a time and really give them the limelight they deserve...
Oh wait, that's literally all of them except Super.

I think it'd be more acceptable if Super took on a slight anthology series approach and limited its cast to those needed for the immediate story rather than trying to include everyone. The original manga was a bit bad at this by trying to include literally EVERYONE prior that Toriyama could remember, which resulted in huge ensemble casts with suspicious absences, such as Launch slipping to the wayside followed by Yamcha and Tien and Chiaotzu.

This is particularly a problem in the recent movies. It's fine with the Reunion Special feel of Yo! considering it's ultimate inconsequential-ness, but in Battle of Gods it's REEEEEEEALLY obvious that only 10% of the cast is being used, and it comes up again in RoF where characters like Gohan and Krillin get about ten seconds to set up future plotlines that may or may no go anywhere.

Personally, I feel like one of Broly's greatest strengths is how it deliberately limits its cast in smart ways. We don't have the plot clogged up with Tien or Yamcha or Roshi, we have a slim cast which gives more room for characterization with important people like Broly and Cheelai. Trunks and Goten are used for a small cameo to help get the plot going rather than making comments on the sidelines to remind you they exist, and Piccolo appears just when they need him to teach Fusion because he knew it in the Buu saga.

Exactly.
Spoilers for the Broly movie:

Spoiler:

We have fanservice from these characters showing up, but they're not just poking their head in for a pointless, purely-fanservice-driven diversion; getting word of the Capsule Corp. robbery to Bulma, Goku, and Vegeta was needed, so it makes sense for Goten and Trunks to deliver it.
Goku and Vegeta needed to go chill out for a sec, and figure out fusion, so they warp to Piccolo, and have him help out.
It makes sense, it gives these side characters a little moment in the spotlight that matters, and the story isn't cluttered up with irrelevant presences.

[Cursed Lemon]

I don't mind the speech in the Ocean dub of Tree of Might. I think it actually fits the narrative of the movie well.

[matt0044]

In the latest Super episode, they changed the dialogue that sort of implied Roshi was going to rape Caway (or at least that she was afraid that he would). That was probably a good idea.

Got a clip of that dialogue? I forgot that episode.

[ABED]

Piccolo appears just when they need him to teach Fusion because he knew it in the Buu saga.

Goku already knows it. That's fanservice.

Freeza to Frieza doesn't bother me that much. Still don't know why anyone felt the need to change it.

[Robo4900]

Got a clip of that dialogue? I forgot that episode.

Episode 89, I think?

In the latest Super episode, they changed the dialogue that sort of implied Roshi was going to rape Caway (or at least that she was afraid that he would). That was probably a good idea.

Yeah, that's not a change I mind either.