Vic Mignogna

[louisascommie]

How is an interview with Vic's lawyer propaganda? What's with all the fascism? This is newsworthy. It's Vic Mignogna's lawyer talking for 8 hours about what legal action is being taken.

When you're using that as a "point" then yes it is. 3 hour videos of Mr. Blackface is a joke lawyer and him going after the people dropping out?



Nah screw this guy. He's terrible.

It's not even about Rekieta, it's about getting to hear Vic Mignogna's lawyer speak about the impending lawsuits, which in turn may change the Dragon Ball franchise itself. Please stop being shortsighted and ridiculous by trying to ban relevant news from this thread. I'm the type of person who likes to know everything going on, like many others. It's not about picking sides, it's about information.

Vic being the new dragon ball equivalent of Ken penders lol

Though Ken penders jever assaulted anyone as far as I am aware

[Gyt Kaliba]

Looks like Josh Grelle has dropped out of going as well. Anyone have a handy list of who all actually is still going at this point? I'm curious how many are left at this point.

And from the responses.... "Hope you get sued"

Jeez, talk about spiteful. This is absolutely crazy.

Yeah, it's getting pretty awful out there, and sadly neither side is particularly helping at this point, at least in-so-far as internet bullshittery goes (though at this point the pro-Vic side is probably winning the obnoxiousness reward). I've even seen people wanting Sabat entirely removed from the Dragon Ball franchise at this point too. Yes, let's call for the removal of the guy who voices a crapton of roles in the hopes of getting back a guy who voices...well, one role, at least in regards to modern Dragon Ball.

Remember the days when all we had to argue among ourselves about were power levels, whether we watched it dubbed or subbed, and the like? They were simpler times. I miss them.

[KBABZ]

Obviously the next con will be Garlic Con. Confuse everybody!

I think people hoping for a con centralized around King Kamehameha were already confused!

[Gyt Kaliba]

Obviously the next con will be Garlic Con. Confuse everybody!

Wouldn't that just be a night at VegettoEX's house, watching every single copy of DBZ movie 1 that has ever existed?

[ShaggyBlanco]

I'm actually wondering how likely it is we're getting a third Kamehacon next year too at this point, as I saw some others questioning. It's a shame - Dragon Ball is probably one of the few anime super-popular enough in the US to manage a convention entirely to itself, but it's not looking too great that it'll keep happening.

Someone van try agian with a diffrent team behind it

Now that kamehameha is tainted as a con name i guess the next attempt would be Saiyan con?

Can't use anything with dragon in the name as that's already used in conventions circuit.

"MasenCon"

[Blondiebear_17]

It kinda makes me sick whenever I see and hear random youtubers commenting on the situation when they clearly don't even know much about the franchise or the voice actors. People will jump onto any band wagon and comment about any situation for political reasons and the likes and views.

[Ex-Dubbie369]

Wouldn't that just be a night at VegettoEX's house, watching every single copy of DBZ movie 1 that has ever existed?

No, that’d be Dead Con. Garlic Con is all about purple beams!

"MasenCon"

“Bankoku Bikkuri Show” (yes I know that’s literally where the pun comes from)

[Polyphase Avatron]

Yeah, I'll be honest. I haven't followed this at all. And actively ignore any videos about it that pop up on my recommendations list. Other than a quick commentary by Geekdom saying that he's staying out of this, I haven't watched anything on it.

Well he just made a new video that starts off with a promo urging everyone to go to the con...

[louisascommie]

I'm actually not that well versed in anime and dragon ball and some of one piece are the only anime I really know the voice actors of a lot of characters

I only say this becuase I'm a big fan of fma and the English dub and yet I didn't know Vic was the voice of Edward until this year after the allegations.

But there were people who knew that and were giant fans and are only defending him because they were fans

Like I was a fan of Andy signore over at screen junkies but i never defended him after the allegations came out. I didnt feel the need to attack April, JTE, and the other 2 woman who spoke out.

[gokaiblue]

They have every right to be angry, but I feel they should have expressed that anger elsewhere. Doesn't make their claims any less valid, however.

Where should they have done it?

On their personal accounts that people have to request to be added to, not their public posts that can be shared to anyone including potential employers.

Let me be clear, I have no problem with them sharing their stories publically. What I do have a problem with is one saying they want Vic's head and balls or claiming to report comments to homeland security (even simple ones such as those asking where the proof is. A simple block does the trick much better than giving the #IStandWithVic crowd ammo). It's not good business to get heated with fans and potential fans where everyone can see it, which is why Monica and Jamie's twitters now require their permission for one to follow them (iirc).

Obviously, I doubt they'll lose any jobs over this, but I've seen what the other side thinks of their reactions. Like or not, a sizable portion of the anime community absolutely despises several working voice actors and most likely won't support productions they're involved in, and that's something studios will have to way before casting them.

[JulieYBM]

They have every right to be angry, but I feel they should have expressed that anger elsewhere. Doesn't make their claims any less valid, however.

Where should they have done it?

On their personal accounts that people have to request to be added to, not their public posts that can be shared to anyone including potential employers.

Let me be clear, I have no problem with them sharing their stories publically. What I do have a problem with is one saying they want Vic's head and balls or claiming to report comments to homeland security (even simple ones such as those asking where the proof is. A simple block does the trick much better than giving the #IStandWithVic crowd ammo). It's not good business to get heated with fans and potential fans where everyone can see it, which is why Monica and Jamie's twitters now require their permission for one to follow them (iirc).

Obviously, I doubt they'll lose any jobs over this, but I've seen what the other side thinks of their reactions. Like or not, a sizable portion of the anime community absolutely despises several working voice actors and most likely won't support productions they're involved in, and that's something studios will have to way before casting them.

Decorum don't mean shit when a piece of shit rubs his hands over your person, kisses you, or holds your close to his person in an inappropriate way.

Wishy-washy centrism like this is no different from "she should've known she'd get raped dressing like that!"

[gokaiblue]

Where should they have done it?

On their personal accounts that people have to request to be added to, not their public posts that can be shared to anyone including potential employers.

Let me be clear, I have no problem with them sharing their stories publically. What I do have a problem with is one saying they want Vic's head and balls or claiming to report comments to homeland security (even simple ones such as those asking where the proof is. A simple block does the trick much better than giving the #IStandWithVic crowd ammo). It's not good business to get heated with fans and potential fans where everyone can see it, which is why Monica and Jamie's twitters now require their permission for one to follow them (iirc).

Obviously, I doubt they'll lose any jobs over this, but I've seen what the other side thinks of their reactions. Like or not, a sizable portion of the anime community absolutely despises several working voice actors and most likely won't support productions they're involved in, and that's something studios will have to way before casting them.

Decorum don't mean shit when a piece of shit rubs his hands over your person, kisses you, or holds your close to his person in an inappropriate way.

Wishy-washy centrism like this is no different from "she should've known she'd get raped dressing like that!"

Sorry, but as a working entertainer, decorum, is everything. Case in point, look at Rosanne Barr, Barbra Streissand, Gilbert Gottfried, Kathy Griffin, John Lennon (bigger than Jesus comment), and yes, even Vic Mignogna. These people either had their careers ruined by controversy or at the very least have turned off a sizable portion of their potential clients and fanbase due to their comments. When casting directors hire talent, they hire a personality, not just talent. Who would you rather work with: A mild mannered person who is easy to work with and direct, or a diva? Given the choice, most would choose the former.

I want to see these actors get more work, but I fear this controversy may cause clients to look elsewhere.

[Blondiebear_17]

Anyone feel like the convention is going to end up breaking into two different events like a civil war situation?

[gokaiblue]

Anyone feel like the convention is going to end up breaking into two different events like a civil war situation?

It's already starting to. Monica Rial is already going to sign autographs elsewhere.

[Blondiebear_17]

Anyone feel like the convention is going to end up breaking into two different events like a civil war situation?

It's already starting to. Monica Rial is already going to sign autographs elsewhere.

Yeah when I heard that I half expected more people to pull out and an announcement of a competing event nearby.

[Fionordequester]

On their personal accounts that people have to request to be added to, not their public posts that can be shared to anyone including potential employers.

Let me be clear, I have no problem with them sharing their stories publically...

Yeah, that's about what I thought you'd say. To that, I have this to say in response; a testimony from a long time con worker. She posted this in January 30, and it's a really good summation of exactly why your approach doesn't work for getting anything done in the public sphere...

Okay, I am one of the long time con staff and had been dealing with Vic since the early 2000s. There have been times working with him I've had to affect a good firm, but polite no and move a hand from its place. This was because even by the mid 2000s these rumors were all over and I knew to expect it.

This is no secret.

Here's the dirty fact nobody wants to confront. It was reported. As were many other incidents from attendees and staff. In a dozen or so years staging and 20 attending there are at least as many incidents from cons alone.

It didn't matter.

As someone still dealing with this crap as a white collar professional who has been fired for reporting being assaulted by coworkers while the assailant kept his job that is kicker. That when I went to their partners and investors (Nickelodeon and Riot and Minectaft among others) with the documentation, they apologized and said it was being treated seriously only for them to keep all relations with this company. They do e-sports for children. But them covering up and supporting the bad guy in a crime was A-ok to do business with.

We continue to ask why these incidents take years to come out and why women do not readily come forward.

We do. We get buried, called not team players bitches and any number of awful terms because boys will be boys and why get so worked up over this.

It has to start mattering.

P.S. shame on ANN because there is zero shot you guys were not aware of the Vic stories. Again, you chose not to speak up. It took Jesse speaking up and it going semi viral for you to care about what women in the community had known for the better part of 20 years.

So with that in mind, what are they supposed to do but drag all this out into the open? Their only chance at FINALLY getting someone to listen to them?

[DHM211]

Anyone feel like the convention is going to end up breaking into two different events like a civil war situation?

Apparently I wasn't the only one thinking about this.
I can definitely see members of the #IStandWithVic and #KickVic crowds getting into some kind of confrontation.

[gokaiblue]

On their personal accounts that people have to request to be added to, not their public posts that can be shared to anyone including potential employers.

Let me be clear, I have no problem with them sharing their stories publically...

Yeah, that's about what I thought you'd say. To that, I have this to say in response; a testimony from a long time con worker. She posted this in January 30, and it's a really good summation of exactly why your approach doesn't work for getting anything done in the public sphere...


So with that in mind, what are they supposed to do but drag all this out into the open? Their only chance at FINALLY getting someone to listen to them?

They'll get a lot more people to listen to them if they don't claim to want Vic's head and balls, which was my whole point. Their stories are fine. Their opinions are fine, but as soon as they post anything even remotely close to a threat, that's where they could be in trouble.

And let me be perfectly clear, I'm looking at this mostly from a business perspective. As I stated previously, decorum is key for an entertainer. Several performers have lost careers due to their comments and behavior on and offstage/off set. Why do you think prominent figures have publicists?

Testimony is not what I'm criticizing. They can testify away.

[Fionordequester]

They'll get a lot more people to listen to them if they don't claim to want Vic's head and balls, which was my whole point. Their stories are fine. Their opinions are fine, but as soon as they post anything even remotely close to a threat, that's where they could be in trouble.

When was that, btw? The "head and balls" comment? And by who?

[gokaiblue]

They'll get a lot more people to listen to them if they don't claim to want Vic's head and balls, which was my whole point. Their stories are fine. Their opinions are fine, but as soon as they post anything even remotely close to a threat, that's where they could be in trouble.

When was that, btw? The "head and balls" comment? And by who?

Jamie Marchi tweeted it. https://twitter.com/marchimark/status/1 ... 04512?s=19

Yes, I want his head. I want his balls. I want him to feel an ounce of the pain he's cause others and then fucking choke on it. I want you to take his dick out of your ears so you can actually hear reality. But, you know, that's just me.

That is not what I would expect a professional in any field to say. Jamie Marchi is a professional voice actress, not some random internet nobody. It has already alienated several anime fans, and it may end up costing her future clients. I know I wouldn't hire her after that tweet regardless of how I feel on the situation.