Vic Mignogna

[Cursed Lemon]

Because he knew that making an inferred claim like that would get him attention, and that's what he really trades in. He's an outrage merchant who kicks up bullshit for attention.

Just google the guy. He's a nobody lawyer from a town of 1200, and his office appears to be in a tiny industrial shack.

He's as far from reputable as it gets. But he's managed to hitch his wagon to every right-wing "culture war" campaign he can to try to boost his cache. And sadly it's actually worked out for him because he's the best they can do.

I was being mostly rhetorical, I agree with all of this.

[Bryesque]

Because he knew that making an inferred claim like that would get him attention, and that's what he really trades in. He's an outrage merchant who kicks up bullshit for attention.

Just google the guy. He's a nobody lawyer from a town of 1200, and his office appears to be in a tiny industrial shack.

He's as far from reputable as it gets. But he's managed to hitch his wagon to every right-wing "culture war" campaign he can to try to boost his cache. And sadly it's actually worked out for him because he's the best they can do.

I was being mostly rhetorical, I agree with all of this.

Oh, I know. I just wanted to say it.

[ssj4]

Not even the dragonballs can save Kamehacon.

God, why is this Rekieta guy so popular? He's a joke

[Fionordequester]

Not even the dragonballs can save Kamehacon.

God, why is this Rekieta guy so popular? He's a joke

I don't know... how did Donald Trump become president? How come we couldn't get anyone better than Hillary to oppose him ?

[Gyt Kaliba]

So, out of curiosity, I decided to look at the GoFundMe that this Rekieta guy is doing to try and help Vic (I'm not linking to it so as to avoid spreading it around further myself), and, for all of the talk the guy claims about 'support', it's taken roughly a month to get barely a little over half of the amount he's seeking ($200,000).

That's...I mean, don't get me wrong, that's pretty depressing that that many people have that much money to waste instead of putting it to a good cause, but that's still not exactly stellar. I mean, compare it to the Critical Role (a group of voice actors who play D&D - I don't follow it much myself but it's proven pretty popular overall) kickstarter to get an animated series made off of the story of their D&D campaign, which just started earlier this month, and is already at 7.9 MILLION dollars (and getting really close to 8 million) of it's originally $750,000 goal, and STILL has a whole 24 days to go before it closes? Yeah, it's...not as supported as the guy seems to think it is.

[ssj4]

Kamehacon in a nutshell

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k1jy5zKwz3w/maxresdefault.jpg

[Cure Dragon 255]

That pic is TOO KIND. It implies Kamehacon will survive this and return stronger than ever. Also I really hope NO Japanese, Canadian or Latin American actors will show up. They could be attacked just for showing up.

[Kinokima]

200,000 is already too much for that dumb campaign

And if Nick Reketia didn’t have a contract why the hell make a tweet about it hinting he did. It just shows he wants to stir up controversy for views and hits

[Gyt Kaliba]

That pic is TOO KIND. It implies Kamehacon will survive this and return stronger than ever. Also I really hope NO Japanese, Canadian or Latin American actors will show up. They could be attacked just for showing up.

Assuming you mean 'attacked' in an online sense, I don't know if I'd worry too much about that. The issues with Vic are a pretty heated topic in the US Dragon Ball fandom at the moment, but I don't know that it's that well known in other countries at the moment, all things considered. I'd wager a bet that it's not (though Canada's the most likely to know about it out of the three).

If you mean 'attacked' in a real world sense, I don't think they'd be the most likely to have any issues at the con, but overall I am getting pretty concerned that something really nasty could end up coming out of this con, whether it's violence done or attempted towards anyone else in the 'name' of Vic, or even something done to Vic himself - which, regardless of how strongly one feels he's guilty, would be a bad, BAD idea that would only make everything FAR, FAR worse. So, for the love of Kami, let's hope nothing insanely bad goes down on either side of the argument at this con.

[JulieYBM]

Not even the dragonballs can save Kamehacon.

God, why is this Rekieta guy so popular? He's a joke

I don't know... how did Donald Trump become president? How come we couldn't get anyone better than Hillary to oppose him ?

The DNC cheated for Clinton's campaign so that she would get better coverage and Sanders would lose. Clinton's friendship with the president of MSNBC also played a role in them not covering Sanders. Clinton and the establishment of the Democratic Party believed that it was Clinton's 'turn', that she basically had a birthright to winning the presidency. Clinton is a conservative through and through but unlike President T*ump she hides it behind platitudes and clichés. As a result, all Candidate T*ump had to do was run to her left, something that made the already extremely desperate populace decide to take a chance on the guy who told them what they wanted to hear--populist-left policies--and not the very obviously fake and robotic Clinton.

Nobody likes Clinton. She's a vapid, Wall Street cock-sucking bigot and lost to the least popular presidental candidate in history. She also had the biggest political machine of all goddamned time and still lost.

Half the country doesn't vote because they know neither party serves them, they serve their corporate and otherwise wealthy masters.

[Gligarman]

I'm just going to be honest. As long as "SJW" is allowed to be used freely here unironically then this place is not a place I can really feel comfortable with.

I've found that the people that use that label are generally the type that feel that their opinion is the only one that matters. That's why I can't take them seriously.

As for the recent convention debacle, fine. They want Vic so badly, now they got him. It's their responsibility to handle the backlash. But if anyone is dumb enough to let their kids take pictures with this guy please refrain from any further breeding.

Were not being any better than the other side by teeling them not to breed because of stupid choices they make. Everyone needs people of opposite gender so that we can teach others who to avoid and how to deal with them hopefully in a non violent way.

I can't get behind people having kids who believe that Vic's behavior was acceptable. Also I'm gay and I can tell you right now my man and I would never allow someone to kiss and grope our child regardless of their gender. I still believe that if all of the girls in those pictures were boys this thread would be about a fraction of it's size because nobody would be defending him.

[miguelnuva1]

Not even the dragonballs can save Kamehacon.

God, why is this Rekieta guy so popular? He's a joke

I don't know... how did Donald Trump become president? How come we couldn't get anyone better than Hillary to oppose him ?

The DNC cheated for Clinton's campaign so that she would get better coverage and Sanders would lose. Clinton's friendship with the president of MSNBC also played a role in them not covering Sanders. Clinton and the establishment of the Democratic Party believed that it was Clinton's 'turn', that she basically had a birthright to winning the presidency. Clinton is a conservative through and through but unlike President T*ump she hides it behind platitudes and clichés. As a result, all Candidate T*ump had to do was run to her left, something that made the already extremely desperate populace decide to take a chance on the guy who told them what they wanted to hear--populist-left policies--and not the very obviously fake and robotic Clinton.

Nobody likes Clinton. She's a vapid, Wall Street cock-sucking bigot and lost to the least popular presidental candidate in history. She also had the biggest political machine of all goddamned time and still lost.

Half the country doesn't vote because they know neither party serves them, they serve their corporate and otherwise wealthy masters.

Nobody likes the woman that won the popular vote?

[Cursed Lemon]

Nobody likes Clinton.

I wish this were true, but it isn't. The revisionism surrounding Hillary in the past couple of years by the left has been intensely frustrating. They essentially claim that Comey's blunder was the only thing that cost her the election, when in reality she should've been blowing Donald Trump out of the water so hard that nothing short of an act of God could've stopped her.

[miguelnuva1]

I've found that the people that use that label are generally the type that feel that their opinion is the only one that matters. That's why I can't take them seriously.

As for the recent convention debacle, fine. They want Vic so badly, now they got him. It's their responsibility to handle the backlash. But if anyone is dumb enough to let their kids take pictures with this guy please refrain from any further breeding.

Were not being any better than the other side by telling them not to breed because of stupid choices they make. Everyone needs people of opposite gender and opinion so that we can teach others who to avoid and how to deal with them hopefully in a non violent way.

I can't get behind people having kids who believe that Vic's behavior was acceptable. Also I'm gay and I can tell you right now my man and I would never allow someone to kiss and grope our child regardless of their gender. I still believe that if all of the girls in those pictures were boys this thread would be about a fraction of it's size because nobody would be defending him.

My post was suppose to be gender and opinion my apologies. Back to my original point thought we may not agree but saying someone doesn't have a right to reproduce no matter how ignorant they are is being no bigger nor better than the other side. Kids a majority of the time follow in their parents footsteps but there are also a lot who try to change from what their parents have taught them growing up.

[ssj4]

How would you respond to 'both sides' are unreasonable?

[KBABZ]

And if Nick Reketia didn’t have a contract why the hell make a tweet about it hinting he did. It just shows he wants to stir up controversy for views and hits

Probably because he likes baiting people so he can say "GOTCHA, UR DUM!"

[RandomGuy96]

I'm sorry, is this a thread about a no-name Funimation voice actor's sexual assault allegations, or is it not? Did I take a wrong turn and end up at a "young socialist" political discussion cesspool? This is ridiculous.

[JulieYBM]

Nobody likes the woman that won the popular vote?

Presidential elections have been nothing but selecting the lesser of two evils for forty some-odd years. The electoral vote being a complete fucking dumpster fire is certainly a huge issue but remember, if Clinton had actually inspired non-voters to come out and vote--something she very intentionally declined to do--she would have been able to win that, too. Her's was a terrible fucking campaign because she is a terrible fucking person.

[Cure Dragon 255]

My heart will shatter if people like Masako Nozawa, Mario Castañeda and or the Ocean cast go to the con only to get told they are rape apologists.

[Kunzait_83]

Nobody likes the woman that won the popular vote?

There's a big difference between genuinely liking someone and disliking someone slightly less than another disliked person. That difference meant EVERYTHING in terms of Clinton vs Trump: Clinton got the popular vote, but not in the key states where it mattered most to the electoral college (whether or not there should even BE an electoral college at this point being a whole rabbit hole unto itself).

I wish this were true, but it isn't. The revisionism surrounding Hillary in the past couple of years by the left has been intensely frustrating. They essentially claim that Comey's blunder was the only thing that cost her the election, when in reality she should've been blowing Donald Trump out of the water so hard that nothing short of an act of God could've stopped her.

You are almost certainly lumping in a specific subset of "the left" with a MUCH broader whole of it. There is a MASSIVE world of difference between actual, serious left wing policy advocates and comfortable, largely well-off Neoliberals who are basically soft-right overall (fairly hard right on economics and foreign policy, soft to moderate left on social issues).

Hillary Clinton only has genuine love and popularity among that latter specific subset of "the left"; who in all practical reality, aren't really THAT particularly left at all and are effectively just Republicans who don't want to blatantly, actively oppress minorities and find that kind of gross, flagrantly upfront racism distasteful (while not exactly caring one bit about how their economic ideas cripple and ruin the lives of millions upon millions of people, minorities in particular).

Apart from hating Trump in general (for reasons that generally aren't at all hard to see if you're not a completely delusional cultist sociopath), there is otherwise almost ZERO common ground between an actual door-knocking, phone-banking grassroots policy-wonk who has half the bills in congress all but memorized and is fighting for systemic change on all the most important issues that actually matter versus some blithely disconnected and detached Country Club Pseudo-Liberal from upstate Connecticut with five different summer homes in the Hamptons and who doesn't care what ANYONE in politics ultimately does, so long as it A) doesn't affect the stock market negatively and B) doesn't get them frowned at by the other rich assholes they play tennis with.

Aggressively fanatic Hillary Clinton revisionism is mainly a thing among the latter and not the former, nor even among most average, regular people in between the two. And having an active Twitter presence - as far too many Neoliberal Hillary zealots often tend to, to the point where their ENTIRE SEGMENT of Twitter even have its own nickname (Donut Twitter) - is in NO way necessarily 100% indicative of where the vast, broader overall majority of the cultural mindset among average, regular people happens to be.