Vic Mignogna

[Bryesque]

Edit: And there are already holes in their proof https://twitter.com/rozalui/status/1098 ... 85472?s=21

...reading comprehension really isn't these dudes' forte, is it?

[jjgp1112]

Not to mention Vics own biography says he was in that city during that time LMFAO

[JulieYBM]

Not to mention Vics own biography says he was in that city during that time LMFAO

...wait, he wrote a full-on biography? Christ, he's a child.

[PFM18]

All we want is Mignogna removed from the spaces he committed his acts. Unless prosecution can begin that is all we want.

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

[Marlowe89]

What these anime-avatar-wielding armchair detectives (in all their faux skepticism) failed to account for is the fact that multiple sources, including Vic's very own portfolio, fully corroborates his occupation/location at the time of her story.

The fact that they're now backpedaling to "Well she still got his age wrong by one year!" very much elucidates the underlying agendas at play here.

[JulieYBM]

All we want is Mignogna removed from the spaces he committed his acts. Unless prosecution can begin that is all we want.

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

Actually, as Empress of the Estradiol Empire--which claims this polluted rock you call 'Earth'--I do speak for everyone.

--Her Highness Empress Julie of the Estradiol Empire, First of Her Name, Mother of the Estrogenians and Caretaker of the Milky Way.

[Cursed Lemon]

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

Maybe because not wanting that would be a real fuckin' shitty position to take at this juncture, so it's mostly rhetorical.

[Fionordequester]

Speaking of which, the evidence yet again:

Only 230 out of 1000 Sexual Assaults are Reported (also gives reasons for why that is):
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/crimin ... ice-system

The woman Mignogna was engaged to believes he's guilty:
https://io9.gizmodo.com/one-of-anime-s- ... 1832390505

FUNimation Themselves Conducted an Investigation:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzKJ7v6V4AA1st2.jpg)

Relevant excerpts from "Illia Sadri": A long time con staff member
(https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/ph ... &start=105)

Tempest: ANN Publisher & CEO
(https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/ph ... &start=120)

More Relevant Excerpts reaching as far back as 2011:
https://hetalia-wank.livejournal.com/31 ... 71#t115571
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/20 ... s/67872530
http://vicmeggnognahorrorstories.tumblr ... /%20Creepy

Vic Mignogna Sits on Neil Kaplan (even if you believe his intentions were good, he still has clear boundary problems):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd6OU_mOKA8

Photoshopping Claim is False (note how Valerie Dave's name was NOT blanked out when this was leaked):
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 01/1cb.jpg
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 03/fcf.jpg
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 05/ab1.jpg

"Valerie Depa" FB Account was Stolen from Someone Else to Smear "KickVic":
https://www.deviantart.com/laundrysoapm ... -784600047

[Fionordequester]

Actually, you know what? I'm tired of all these new "vids" being posted; tired of what I read in the comments, and tired of new people coming over here each day posting them as "evidence".

Is there any way I can copy and paste the list of links I have across each video, without it coming off as spam? I don't want to be banned from Yotube ...

[PFM18]

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

Maybe because not wanting that would be a real fuckin' shitty position to take at this juncture, so it's mostly rhetorical.

It's a shitty position to not want "prosecution to begin"?

[KBABZ]

Actually, you know what? I'm tired of all these new "vids" being posted; tired of what I read in the comments, and tired of new people coming over here each day posting them as "evidence".

Is there any way I can copy and paste the list of links I have across each video, without it coming off as spam? I don't want to be banned from Yotube ...

Link to a Google Document with the links in there!

[Cursed Lemon]

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

Maybe because not wanting that would be a real fuckin' shitty position to take at this juncture, so it's mostly rhetorical.

It's a shitty position to not want "prosecution to begin"?

[Cure Dragon 255]

All we want is Mignogna removed from the spaces he committed his acts. Unless prosecution can begin that is all we want.

Why do you say "we" as if you speak for everyone? You don't, as it turns out.

Actually, as Empress of the Estradiol Empire--which claims this polluted rock you call 'Earth'--I do speak for everyone.

--Her Highness Empress Julie of the Estradiol Empire, First of Her Name, Mother of the Estrogenians and Caretaker of the Milky Way.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH JULIE-SAMA!!!!

[Fionordequester]

Link to a Google Document with the links in there!

Actually, that's not a bad idea...it won't work by itself, but, I think I know what else I could do. Thanks!

[The Patrolman]

Okay so someone on Discord just told me the 1989 story was frauded.

Wow, what is happening here. I am not denying there are accurate claims but why are so many people recycling stories from different parts of the internet

You mean this story

https://twitter.com/CanvasPirate/status ... 8481557504
https://twitter.com/CanvasPirate/status ... 4121531392
https://twitter.com/CanvasPirate/status ... 1670364160
https://twitter.com/CanvasPirate/status ... 7321845760
https://twitter.com/anime_esh202/status ... 3061686274
https://twitter.com/anime_esh202/status ... 4619036673

So we got the Internet amateur detectives lol


I don’t know the second but CanvasPirate has encouraged harassing Monica at cons and asking her repeatedly about Vic. Looking at the other guys posts he doesn’t seem much better.


I am sorry if I take what they say with a huge grain of salt.


Edit: And there are already holes in their proof https://twitter.com/rozalui/status/1098 ... 85472?s=21

He apologize for that immediately after

[Fionordequester]

Well, the gauntlet has been thrown down. I've posted my Google doc to multiple Youtube vids; and I think I managed to construct them in a way Youtube won't have any problems with. Of course, folks are inevitably going to post at least SOMETHING that isn't totally unreasonable; so if they do, I'm going to be putting THAT in this thread as well.

You all good with that?

[PremiumSalt]

I doubt anyone particularly cares, but, I wanted to apologize for my behavior in this thread. I feel that I've come across as ignorant, and frankly it's become clear to me that I don't understand this subject matter enough to comment on it. I admit that I was most likely in the wrong in regards to the comments I have made, and will refrain from commenting further.

[Cursed Lemon]

All anyone on this side of the aisle has ever tried to get across is that when someone has a score of complaints against them across many years, if a person's knee-jerk inclination is to play Internet Super-Sleuth and try to punch holes in the entire thing, that says far more about their own biases than it does about the actual situation. Like I said before, agree-to-disagree applies when we're having a casual chat about power levels or what's canon or other inconsequential silly stuff, but what's being discussed in this thread is real and deals with people getting hurt. The gravity of that means that this isn't the place for someone to share their "opinion" on things, and the snippy back and forth starts because some people just don't seem to take their own view on the situation to its logical conclusion. Example being: people who don't think Vic should lose his ability to go to cons, even though it's a wide-open secret that he's a fucking creep. So because we can't convict him in a court of law, everyone who has had run-ins with him should just shut their mouths and private enterprises must allow him to continue to show up and put his hands on young girls? Just as well, the people who think that this is all an elaborate SJW hoax. That is both stupefyingly ignorant and grotesquely immoral, but what's perhaps even more ignorant is the suggestion that others should tolerate these points of view for some nonexistent doctrine of argumentative fairness. No, I'm not going to tolerate it, I'm going to viciously berate anyone who holds that opinion, because it's a sociopathic, ass-backward point of view to hold and is most often peddled by those with a very specific darkness in their heart - but can spread to those who are just mind-numbingly gullible. That shit has no place among any group who claim to have even the smallest empathetic bone in their body, because those kinds of world views hurt people.

If you've had a reckoning, by all means I'm glad to hear it.

[Fionordequester]

I doubt anyone particularly cares, but, I wanted to apologize for my behavior in this thread. I feel that I've come across as ignorant, and frankly it's become clear to me that I don't understand this subject matter enough to comment on it. I admit that I was most likely in the wrong in regards to the comments I have made, and will refrain from commenting further.

Well...I haven't followed the thread closely enough to know of what you did or didn't say. But, I think what matters is that you've realized what you did. Believe me; I've been in the same exact position you are now...and I probably will be again, the next time I screw up royally (and there WILL be a next time, knowing me)...

So, feel whatever guilt you have to feel...but don't be ashamed of yourself, alright? Guilt is good, but shame isn't.

All anyone on this side of the aisle has ever tried to get across is that when someone has a score of complaints against them across many years, if a person's knee-jerk inclination is to play Internet Super-Sleuth and try to punch holes in the entire thing, that says far more about their own biases than it does about the actual situation.

No it doesn't, actually. I was that same person; or at least, I was appalled by the way VegettoEX initially acted toward anyone who thought Vic was innocent (emphasis on initially...after some time passed, he validated why I love him so much as a moderator). I didn't want someone's life ruined over baseless allegations, so I researched the matter as thoroughly as I knew how.

The difference is that ultimately, I found the evidence convincing enough that I sided against Vic, instead of for him. Even still, I thank VegettoEX for not closing the thread; had he done so, I would've had more reason to believe that everyone was just overreacting.

Example being: people who don't think Vic should lose his ability to go to cons, even though it's a wide-open secret that he's a fucking creep. So because we can't convict him in a court of law, everyone who has had run-ins with him should just shut their mouths and private enterprises must allow him to continue to show up and put his hands on young girls?

This, however, I agree with 100%.

Just as well, the people who think that this is all an elaborate SJW hoax. That is both stupefyingly ignorant and grotesquely immoral, but what's perhaps even more ignorant is the suggestion that others should tolerate these points of view for some nonexistent doctrine of argumentative fairness. No, I'm not going to tolerate it, I'm going to viciously berate anyone who holds that opinion, because it's a sociopathic, ass-backward point of view to hold and is most often peddled by those with a very specific darkness in their heart - but can spread to those who are just mind-numbingly gullible. That shit has no place among any group who claim to have even the smallest empathetic bone in their body, because those kinds of world views hurt people.

I'd still be careful how you approach folks who believe Vic is innocent, though. Again, I would've been much more inclined to side against you if THAT'S how you approached me.

If you've had a reckoning, by all means I'm glad to hear it.

As am I. But not everyone comes to that on their own; sometimes we need folks like VegettoEX to calmly explain things to us first...at least, for the first few pages. Now that this thread has blown up to 85 pages, I could now understand if VegettoEX decided to lock this at some point.

[Cursed Lemon]

I didn't want someone's life ruined over baseless allegations, so I researched the matter as thoroughly as I knew how.

And as soon as you learned the flat reality of the situation, you had the easiest choice in history.

Again, I would've been much more inclined to side against you if THAT'S how you approached me.

If you weigh information on how nicely it's presented to you, that is entirely your own personal flaw. That's the entire point of my post. Fuck people who need to be coddled into not having socially damaging views.