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"Nah, can't possibly listen to this guy. It's just another video with a LOT of ads."excelhedge wrote:https://youtu.be/RHAAYD_upsM
I'm just going to post this here. There's still some missing details but there does seem to be a some links to the originator of the #kickvic , the founder of Anime Feminist, and the ANN article that had fake pics.
Okay. So that one article is flawed.excelhedge wrote:https://youtu.be/RHAAYD_upsM
I'm just going to post this here. There's still some missing details but there does seem to be a some links to the originator of the #kickvic , the founder of Anime Feminist, and the ANN article that had fake pics.
Is that REALLY the only thing that stuck out to you in that whole video? That wasn't really the point of it. He was revealing where the #KickVic stuff started (MarzGurl) & most likely why (her online career wasn't doing that well). Though I question his logic on the Channel Awesome stuff, since there were over a dozen creators who've worked for Channel Awesome involved with that document & a LOT more legitimate reasons for their leaving, & several other creators also complained about the lack of exposure from CA when they were on it, the video reveals a LOT of the bad involved with this event from some of the people involved.gokaiblue wrote:Okay. So that one article is flawed.excelhedge wrote:https://youtu.be/RHAAYD_upsM
I'm just going to post this here. There's still some missing details but there does seem to be a some links to the originator of the #kickvic , the founder of Anime Feminist, and the ANN article that had fake pics.
There are literally several publicly accounts dating back to at least 2013.
Yes. I haven't seen anyone accuse others of attacking him because of his faith. I mean, the people I've seen defending him are more so looking at the biggest evidence & finding holes in the logic. Nothing to do with his faith.WittyUsername wrote:Alright, I’m not going to make any comments on Mignogna himself (that horse has already been beaten), but I do have to wonder about something in regards to his defenders. Would all these people on YouTube and Twitter have been so inclined to jump to his defense if he hadn’t been a devout Christian? I’m asking because a lot of the people who vehemently defend him keep arguing that he’s being attacked for his faith, and I certainly don’t recall seeing this kind of support for people like Bryan Singer, Kevin Spacey, or hell, even JewWario.
Are we supposed to be surprised that the effort to get Vic removed from the con circuit was started by feminist personalities? Are we supposed to find it weird that feminists are vehemently against sexual misconduct against women and might want to use social media to call attention to it?Scsigs wrote: Is that REALLY the only thing that stuck out to you in that whole video? That wasn't really the point of it. He was revealing where the #KickVic stuff started (MarzGurl) & most likely why (her online career wasn't doing that well).
No, we aren't. That's not surprising whatsoever. However, due to the factors presented in the article, it's really questionable if there weren't other motives involved as well.Cursed Lemon wrote:Are we supposed to be surprised that the effort to get Vic removed from the con circuit was started by feminist personalities? Are we supposed to find it weird that feminists are vehemently against sexual misconduct against women and might want to use social media to call attention to it?Scsigs wrote: Is that REALLY the only thing that stuck out to you in that whole video? That wasn't really the point of it. He was revealing where the #KickVic stuff started (MarzGurl) & most likely why (her online career wasn't doing that well).
What is the conspiracy here?
The general gist of the defenses he’s been getting are that he’s being unfairly attacked by SJWs, and I have seen a number of YouTube comments who have claimed that people are only going after him for his faith.Scsigs wrote:Yes. I haven't seen anyone accuse others of attacking him because of his faith. I mean, the people I've seen defending him are more so looking at the biggest evidence & finding holes in the logic. Nothing to do with his faith.WittyUsername wrote:Alright, I’m not going to make any comments on Mignogna himself (that horse has already been beaten), but I do have to wonder about something in regards to his defenders. Would all these people on YouTube and Twitter have been so inclined to jump to his defense if he hadn’t been a devout Christian? I’m asking because a lot of the people who vehemently defend him keep arguing that he’s being attacked for his faith, and I certainly don’t recall seeing this kind of support for people like Bryan Singer, Kevin Spacey, or hell, even JewWario.
...And?Scsigs wrote: No, we aren't. That's not surprising whatsoever. However, due to the factors presented in the article, it's really questionable if there weren't other motives involved as well.
Do Vic conspiracy theorist ever quit? Christ. This pathetic so and so trying to ruin innocent Vic’s career crap is getting sadder and more pathetic everytime.Scsigs wrote:Is that REALLY the only thing that stuck out to you in that whole video? That wasn't really the point of it. He was revealing where the #KickVic stuff started (MarzGurl) & most likely why (her online career wasn't doing that well). Though I question his logic on the Channel Awesome stuff, since there were over a dozen creators who've worked for Channel Awesome involved with that document & a LOT more legitimate reasons for their leaving, & several other creators also complained about the lack of exposure from CA when they were on it, the video reveals a LOT of the bad involved with this event from some of the people involved.gokaiblue wrote:Okay. So that one article is flawed.excelhedge wrote:https://youtu.be/RHAAYD_upsM
I'm just going to post this here. There's still some missing details but there does seem to be a some links to the originator of the #kickvic , the founder of Anime Feminist, and the ANN article that had fake pics.
There are literally several publicly accounts dating back to at least 2013.
Well then. It seems those people are misled.WittyUsername wrote:The general gist of the defenses he’s been getting are that he’s being unfairly attacked by SJWs, and I have seen a number of YouTube comments who have claimed that they’re going after him for his faith.
I don't really think you parsed your argument as well as you could've, but to respond, that is more of a case of a person who's been identified as a suspect in a murder & there's a thing out for their arrest. It also seems like that's an open & shut case. With Vic, a lot of the evidence seems to be based on most of the people overthinking the situation, which I've already given my piece on a few times several pages back, which you can read now if you haven't before. It also seems to be an ongoing thing. In an ongoing investigation, yeah, you question everyone's motives, not just the accused. That's how you come to conclusions based on the evidence or lack thereof.Cursed Lemon wrote:...And?
If I call a police hotline and tip them off about a suspect in a murder, but the only reason I called was to get the advertised reward, are you going to spend more time criticizing my motives or celebrating the fact that a murderer got caught and is being brought to justice?
I was referring to the video creator. Not you.Scsigs wrote:. However, he's NOT guilty of everything that he's being accused. Getting too up close & personal with people who didn't want it? Yes! Sexual assault? No. Sorry.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I couldn't tell, sorry.MasenkoHA wrote:I was referring to the video creator. Not you.Scsigs wrote:However, he's NOT guilty of everything that he's being accused. Getting too up close & personal with people who didn't want it? Yes! Sexual assault? No. Sorry.
I really give up with all this.Scsigs wrote: I don't really think you parsed your argument as well as you could've, but to respond, that is more of a case of a person who's been identified as a suspect in a murder & there's a thing out for their arrest. It also seems like that's an open & shut case. With Vic, a lot of the evidence seems to be based on most of the people overthinking the situation, which I've already given my piece on a few times several pages back, which you can read now if you haven't before. It also seems to be an ongoing thing. In an ongoing investigation, yeah, you question everyone's motives, not just the accused. That's how you come to conclusions based on the evidence or lack thereof.
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The “skeptic” crowd or whatever care more about whining about feminism and SJW’s than facts.XanatosVanBadass wrote:As I said before, I roll my eyes at you people who go one about feminazis and SJWs with an agenda against Vic. As if having an agenda against someone with this many accusations is a BAD thing. It’s ok to have an agenda, you fucking idiots.
Perfect summation.Cursed Lemon wrote: I really give up with all this.
If people are more concerned about unearthing the nonexistent dirty secret scandal surrounding people attempting to soil Vic Mignogna's reputation rather than focusing on the fact that Vic ruined his own reputation by being a god damn pedophile pervert, then that speaks very loudly to their personal constitution.
You and others have consistently and purposefully ignored the dozens of independent accusations compiled over years with this guy (seriously, it's like it was never even brought up with you guys), all in favor of going full-tinfoil and trying to act like you know something the rest of us ignorant sobs don't, because that, in fact, is the ulterior motive of conspiracy weirdos - a motive that is worth questioning.
I know right!, that video was the most endearing thing I've ever seen him do.MasenkoHA wrote: I can’t believe the day would come where I side with Sean Schemmel and yet here I am.
This is big part of why I don't even talk about it on Twitter now. Vic's done. What his victims were aiming for had been achieved. All that's left is his conspiracy theory fanbase showing off Olympic-level mental gymnastics and using alt accounts to gaslight and attack his victims that have come forward.Cursed Lemon wrote:I really give up with all this.Scsigs wrote: I don't really think you parsed your argument as well as you could've, but to respond, that is more of a case of a person who's been identified as a suspect in a murder & there's a thing out for their arrest. It also seems like that's an open & shut case. With Vic, a lot of the evidence seems to be based on most of the people overthinking the situation, which I've already given my piece on a few times several pages back, which you can read now if you haven't before. It also seems to be an ongoing thing. In an ongoing investigation, yeah, you question everyone's motives, not just the accused. That's how you come to conclusions based on the evidence or lack thereof.
If people are more concerned about unearthing the nonexistent dirty secret scandal surrounding people attempting to soil Vic Mignogna's reputation rather than focusing on the fact that Vic ruined his own reputation by being a god damn pedophile pervert, then that speaks very loudly to their personal constitution.
You and others have consistently and purposefully ignored the dozens of independent accusations compiled over years with this guy (seriously, it's like it was never even brought up with you guys), all in favor of going full-tinfoil and trying to act like you know something the rest of us ignorant sobs don't, because that, in fact, is the ulterior motive of conspiracy weirdos - a motive that is worth questioning.
I mean, sometimes the enemy of your enemy is your friend, I guess.MasenkoHA wrote:The “skeptic” crowd or whatever care more about whining about feminism and SJW’s than facts.
And my God, do not read any comment section on any recent Youtube video that anything to do with Funimation. Half the comments are idiots going on about how Funimation employees are backstabbing Mignogna or making baseless accusations at him. Even when the video in question has nothing to do with Mignogna.
I can’t believe the day would come where I side with Sean Schemmel and yet here I am.
I think the more disheartening part is seeing these women use their platform to pour their hearts out and show their support for each other only to have a bunch of screaming incels and dishonest Youtube shitheads blow up their mentions with "BUT WHERE DA PROOF? WHERE DA PROOF?" as if it's totally a given that everyone should have a camera stapled to their fucking foreheads 24 hours a day.XanatosVanBadass wrote:As I said before, I roll my eyes at you people who go one about feminazis and SJWs with an agenda against Vic. As if having an agenda against someone with this many accusations is a BAD thing. It’s ok to have an agenda, you fucking idiots.
