Vic Mignogna

[Gyt Kaliba]

So new Broly is Ichigo. Does vic get paid if they use already recorded voice lines. I know he's the cum of the Earth but he fits better for classic Broly.

Nope. Anime and video game work pretty much never has royalty pay involved. It's always one lump sum payment after the initial recording, and that's it.

[TheBlackPaladin]

So new Broly is Ichigo. Does vic get paid if they use already recorded voice lines. I know he's the cum of the Earth but he fits better for classic Broly.

Nope. Anime and video game work pretty much never has royalty pay involved. It's always one lump sum payment after the initial recording, and that's it.

Precisely. There is a residual system in place for union dubs, but in order for the residuals to kick in, certain conditions need to be met that almost never are (one of them being that the dubbed show in question has to be on TV for more than five years). The union also negotiated a Netflix-specific dubbing agreement a few months ago that completely does away with residuals in exchange for a higher upfront payment. As for union video games, there is a re-use fee for using previously recorded audio, but it costs more than a regular recording session fee...so it's almost never used, since it's actually cheaper to just bring the actor in again and have them re-record their own lines.

That is all, of course, in the case of union productions. Non-union productions are almost always paid for as buyouts (one-time fees for unlimited use and re-use), and all of FUNimation's DBZ-related stuff is non-union.

[Scsigs]

So new Broly is Ichigo. Does vic get paid if they use already recorded voice lines. I know he's the scum of the Earth but he fits better for classic Broly.

Don't know for the games, but for the movies, no.

[miguelnuva1]

So Old Broly can just use Vic's lines and New Broly is they one they can record for? Honestly I think I would prefer that even if Broly was reduced to his movie 10 Kakarot self.

[WittyUsername]

It looks like there isn’t any special dialogue between the new Broly and the old one in FighterZ, which is for the best, I suppose. It still would’ve been funny if they kept all his lines in Japanese.

[Young-Jah]

So, if my Boy Bosh now the new voice actor to play Super Broly, does this mean DBS Season 2 might have JYB as Broly when it returns, or what?

[Valerius Dover]

So, if my Boy Bosh now the new voice actor to play Super Broly, does this mean DBS Season 2 might have JYB as Broly when it returns, or what?

Let's not jump the gun about that existing in the first place, but I'd assume this would be the case.

[Young-Jah]

So, if my Boy Bosh now the new voice actor to play Super Broly, does this mean DBS Season 2 might have JYB as Broly when it returns, or what?

Let's not jump the gun about that existing in the first place, but I'd assume this would be the case.

Well, I have no problem with JYB, he's still my Boy

[XanatosVanBadass]

It’s funny, I predicted how the fandom would react from the beginning for the most part. I knew the larger fandom would stand by him as the anime fandom IS just that toxic and evil (in general ). At least the ones invested in the story as I’m aware most anime fans don’t know or care either way. What baffled me is when Vic started going after Sabat and the like. I was legit curious who the fandom would side with since Sabat is crucial (for better or worse) to the dub in this fandom. And... they STILL sided with Vic and in fact want everyone BUT him fired from Dragon Ball. That was.. baffling.

Anime fans as a group are generally shitty people. Fuck it all. The only anime I support now are positive works like A Silent Voice.

I'm sorry, but that's an extremely pessimistic & bad take on this situation. The larger fandom? Like, most of the DB fandom? I'm sorry, even most of the dub's fandom didn't care that much. Literally the only people that cared or stood by him were his fans (which don't comprise a lot of the DB fandom), or right wing grifters. And then you contradict yourself & say most anime fans don't know or care. Literally not a lot of people sided with Vic against the rest of the cast outside of Monica Rial (who, let's face it, didn't endear herself to outsiders by threatening people with a lawsuit if they tweeted something she perceived as bad at her, even if it wasn't as bad as other stuff) & maybe Sean Schemmel, but he also acted like an ass at times.
The only thing I can think of that they'd be against the others about are the leaked outtakes from 20 years ago, which had NOTHING to do with Vic outside of Rekieta being shady & trying to use it as proof that Vic was innocent of any misdeeds...somehow because people, before he worked at FUNi, recorded joke takes when dubbing Z that got leaked to the public years ago & then suddenly resurfaced.

I'm sorry, but, what? Dragon Ball not being positive? The larger fandom is extremely positive. Because it's not a film about a dude who befriends a deaf girl, it's toxic? I don't believe that. Sorry, but that's just bad logic since you don't go into detail about it. I've said similar things about things that I hate about certain fandoms, so I know why you're saying that, but I don't think DB is nearly as bad as those fandoms.

I agree Dragon Ball’s fandom isn’t so bad in itself. Well, it kinda IS when you look at the RWBY fans and how they accepted for the most part Vic’s firing. I’m more kinda upset at the anime community as a whole and that goes beyond Vic. That American idiots embrace poorly timed rape denial nonsense like Shield Hero, rape culture apologia like Goblin Slayer, or Attack on Titan with its right wing author and antisemetic implications. A poster here was even being an apologist for a pornographic rape scene from Ninja Scroll. I just... I’m done with it.

[KBABZ]

I agree Dragon Ball’s fandom isn’t so bad in itself.

Other bad behaviour that you listed aside, IMO the DBZ fandom could be much, MUCH more willing to open up and accept the original version of the show, and that OG Dragon Ball and the manga exist. That's some critical research failure and reality denial IMO.

[Fionordequester]

I agree Dragon Ball’s fandom isn’t so bad in itself. Well, it kinda IS when you look at the RWBY fans and how they accepted for the most part Vic’s firing. I’m more kinda upset at the anime community as a whole and that goes beyond Vic. That American idiots embrace poorly timed rape denial nonsense like Shield Hero, rape culture apologia like Goblin Slayer...

I've never watched any of those shows; I just skimmed a Wikipedia article about them. I can understand the disdain for Shield Hero (dude gets falsely accused of sexual assault by evil woman who later gets renamed "Bitch" by the Queen, as an ironic punishment)...

...But what about Goblin Slayer? The Wikipedia presents it to me, the rapists are goblins who are portrayed as Always Chaotic Evil, and are all killed by the heroes in horrible ways, without remorse.

Is it the fact that "rape" is being used for drama at all? I'm just asking because I have a feeling I'd have to actually watch the show to "get" what's so bad about it, and, well... I don't wish to do that.

[JulieYBM]

Eh, the problem is that the content of Shield Hero frames woman as being liars by nature. Mind you, I haven't actually seen it yet, though. It's on my to-watch list on Crunchyroll, though.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Personally I enjoy the writing of H.P. Lovecraft, even though I know that he was a racist asshole and a lot of his work reflects it. That's not why I like it - I like the atmospheric descriptions, the monsters, the cosmic concepts, and many other aspects. I don't think that means that I should be considered a bad person.

[Scsigs]

Personally I enjoy the writing of H.P. Lovecraft, even though I know that he was a racist asshole and a lot of his work reflects it. That's not why I like it - I like the atmospheric descriptions, the monsters, the cosmic concepts, and many other aspects. I don't think that means that I should be considered a bad person.

I mean, like what you like for the reasons you like it. As long as you can admit to any disturbing implications in a piece of work, if there are any, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, personally. I still like Harry Potter despite the unfortunate implications JK Rowling established about the House Elves in the books. Or some of the stupid shit she keeps throwing out on Twitter to try to retcon the original books retroactively. Or the fact that she justifies Harry living with abusive shithead relatives that hate him for just existing with magical protection bullshit (Percy Jackson also fell into that trap in the first book with Percy's stepfather until Rick Riordan thankfully did away with that character at the end). Or the fact that Dumbledore constantly turns a blind eye to Snape constantly being a terrible teacher to those not in Slytherin.
What was I saying? Oh yeah, as long as you can accept unfortunate implications in a work, like it for reasons you choose to. Unless it's meant to be some sort of propaganda. Fuck that.

[miguelnuva1]

Eh, the problem is that the content of Shield Hero frames woman as being liars by nature. Mind you, I haven't actually seen it yet, though. It's on my to-watch list on Crunchyroll, though.

Shield hero had one woman that was bad and several evil male characters.

[XanatosVanBadass]

Eh, the problem is that the content of Shield Hero frames woman as being liars by nature. Mind you, I haven't actually seen it yet, though. It's on my to-watch list on Crunchyroll, though.

Shield hero had one woman that was bad and several evil male characters.

The problem is how ill timed the show is. With the #MeToo movement being such a new thing, now is NOT the time for CR to be promoting a show where it’s big emotional gut punch to the protagonist is “women lie about rape”. I mean look at how people compare what happened with Vic to the Shield Hero. Don’t give the Alt Right anymore icons.

[Cursed Lemon]

I find obnoxious the idea that every plot element and/or personal interaction in fiction must necessarily be framed as an "implication" or otherwise enforcing some sort of assumed precedent. However...

The problem is how ill timed the show is. With the #MeToo movement being such a new thing, now is NOT the time for CR to be promoting a show where it’s big emotional gut punch to the protagonist is “women lie about rape”. I mean look at how people compare what happened with Vic to the Shield Hero. Don’t give the Alt Right anymore icons.

This is an unfortunate reality.

[XanatosVanBadass]

I find obnoxious the idea that every plot element and/or personal interaction in fiction must necessarily be framed as an "implication" or otherwise enforcing some sort of assumed precedent. However...

The problem is how ill timed the show is. With the #MeToo movement being such a new thing, now is NOT the time for CR to be promoting a show where it’s big emotional gut punch to the protagonist is “women lie about rape”. I mean look at how people compare what happened with Vic to the Shield Hero. Don’t give the Alt Right anymore icons.

This is an unfortunate reality.

I can’t tell if you’re actually agreeing with me or not, but the issue is works of fiction don’t exist in a vacuum. What they say and imply does affect us subconsciously whether we want it to or not. Especially when we’re younger.

[Cursed Lemon]

I was agreeing with you. I don't believe in reflecting back upon the creator or consumer of a particular work as having certain views just because they create/enjoy media that has certain content in it, but like it or not, douchebags like those that fester in the manosphere subsist off of exactly that kind of content. Nevermind the fact that there's a depressing amount of MRA types in the anime fandom. I wonder why...couldn't have anything to do with a lot of anime women being depicted as servile objects...

[XanatosVanBadass]

I was agreeing with you. I don't believe in reflecting back upon the creator or consumer of a particular work as having certain views just because they create/enjoy media that has certain content in it, but like it or not, douchebags like those that fester in the manosphere subsist off of exactly that kind of content. Nevermind the fact that there's a depressing amount of MRA types in the anime fandom. I wonder why...couldn't have anything to do with a lot of anime women being depicted as servile objects...

I used to buy into the idea someone told me. “Separate the art from the artist!” And while that’s all well and good, I’m still enjoying something that causes others pain. The idea of separating art from artist is a privileged WHITE male concept.