KBABZ wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:17 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:12 pm
Here is a shot of the film master, the level set (red) and the 30th set (green). Now I think this confirms this is a new master and not the level (which seems kind of odd as it would of gave them a jump start on a bunch of episodes) but why not at least try to get the same or more out of the frame as the level set. Now I'm still ok with the 30th shot, but I figured it'd be worth asking.
They explain why in the blog post: they're trying to provide a similar amount of framing as what you might have seen on the TV when the show was originally broadcast. It's what me and Forte were arguing about earlier when I brought out this image:
The yellow box is the Dragon Box framing, the red box is the CRT overscan safety zone. If you notice, the crop on the Black Brick compared to the Levels is comparable to CRT overscan.
"no no, it's okay, we're deliberately making our remaster inferior because it used to be like that if you watched it on tv in japan back in the day. to that end we're also decreasing the detail so much that you get about the same crappy image as you'd get on a crt via coaxial, and messing up the colour settings exactly like your dad would because he thinks he knows better than the guys who built the tv and he likes the colours brighter even though it's a bad idea. don't worry guys. it's the way it's meant to be seen
This would explain their attitude, though. They don't want the wide frame, grain, detail, etc. of properly remastered film, they want the same low detail, zoomed-in, blurry image you got on TV in the '80s/'90s.
Does someone want to tell them those old TV airings were crappy standard-def airings, though? That maybe this look isn't what a modern HD presentation should look like? That maybe the intents of the artists, and the original look of the film prints from that time are the proper way to render this stuff in HD, with HD detail?
Forte224 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm
Yeah but, based on what we've seen today, most images outside of episode 1 tend to not be as zoomed. Their blog post said they're trying to cut out as little as possible. Maybe something went wrong with episode 1 and they'll go back. Hopefully. Maybe.
Y'see, that just seems contradictory:
> We're cropping it to match the old CRT images
> But we're cropping as little as possible
Seems pretty clear they're just trying to justify the ridiculous zooming.
Dragon Ball is a goofy kids cartoon from a long time ago. You take it too seriously at your own peril.
Debate the plot, characters, adaptations, dubs, etc., criticise the home video, but never lose sight of the fact that it's all just entertainment. You're supposed to enjoy it. If you're not enjoying it, just walk away.