Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

[Zamasu55]

Piccolo and 17vs lags ruled and didn't make Jiren look piccolo tier like the anime.

Much better. I hope they all get collected and sold later!

He was doing fine until the last chapter. He's supposed to be the Strongest Mortal out of all the Universes, step up and fight Hearts at your fullest. for God's sake.

[theshinobi]

Demon Realm Saga - Preview

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Universe Mission - Preview

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[TobyS]

These are so fun, I wish someone was still translating these now Cipher isn't.

I occasionally find them online but they are still a couple of chapters behind.

[Majin Demigra]

So Demigra has the power of light now, wonder if that'll be expanded on.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Piccolo and 17vs lags ruled and didn't make Jiren look piccolo tier like the anime.

Much better. I hope they all get collected and sold later!

He was doing fine until the last chapter. He's supposed to be the Strongest Mortal out of all the Universes, step up and fight Hearts at your fullest. for God's sake.

Was. As with any franchise, the continuation of a story means bigger stakes than previously faced.

[ShadowVezon]

So, Lagss being absorbed freed everyone she turned into glass... that means Zamasu should still be around in the Manga-verse, right?

[Rakurai]

Cipher's summaries to the latest SDBH chapters:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cipher_db/st ... 0751264771

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cipher_db/st ... 7657387009

Also, just in case anyone wants to read available translated chapters here (up to 15 only for DDR, still WIP):

https://mangadex.org/title/28585/super- ... lm-mission

[Cipher]

Text-based summaries (sorry for the delay):

Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 17 (final)

Spoiler:

Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 17 – Final Chapter
Date: February 1, 2020, Saikyо̄ Jump March 2020 issue
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Illustration page text: A story 5 million years in the making ... finally comes to an end!!
A final, decisive battle with time itself on the line!!

Summary: Trunks, the Kaiо̄shin of Time, Old Kaiо̄shin, and Tokitoki awaken in a dark void. Scenes of their battles in other timelines hover around them in fog-like wisps. The Kaiо̄shin of Time explains that Mechickaboola is absorbing time itself. If this keeps up, the world will be ruined.

Old Kaiо̄shin asserts the need to find a way out, as a chain flies out from a pinhole of light far above him and smacks him square in the face. The chain splits into four and wraps itself around each of the characters, pulling them up toward the light. The fourth link of chains extends further downward, collecting someone outside of view.

Back in the former Time Nest—now itself mostly rubble and void—Demigra pulls the heroes, along with Towa, by happenstance, out of Mechickaboola’s chest. The chains retreat into his staff. The Kaiо̄shin of Time is shocked by the identity of their savior, and questions how he can be capable of such powers as a user of dark magic. Demigra explains that he used his wish on Dark Shen Long, resurrected from the Dragon Balls they gathered from the GT timeline, to wish for the kind of power that could stand up to Mechickaboola—the power of light.

However, as he had spent so much time infusing himself with dark power, Demigra is uncapable of using the powers of light to their fullest potential. Mechickaboola breaks free from his chains. Demigra asks the Kaiо̄shin of Time, whom he refers to as Chronoa, about the Keysword. She should have received it from Robel. The Kaiо̄shin of Time tells him it was tossed away somewhere by Mechickaboola.

Frustrated by their current circumstances, Demigra desperately fires another chain toward Mechickaboola, but Trunks tells him they still have a way to fight back, powering up into Super Saiyan God. Trunks attacks in combination with Demigra’s chains and lands an attack with his sword on Mechickaboola’s chest. However, Mechickaboola instantly recovers from the damage. Having absorbed the time itself, he is now capable of limitless regeneration.

As the heroes wonder how to fight an essentially immortal foe, a rift in time opens behind them. Robel, Chamel, and the rest of the Time Patrol step through. Pan jeers at Mechickaboola for playing dirty as Goten cheers her on. Goku emerges holding the Keysword.

The Kaiо̄shin of Time and Demigra shout simultaneously to their respective allies to buy them time for the Kaiо̄shin of Time to recharge the Keysword. Goku and Vegeta take a pair of Potara Earrings off of Old Kaiо̄shin, earlier knocked unconscious by the chains.

Goten powers up into Super Saiyan and he and Pan fire shots at Mechickaboola. Mechickaboola easily blocks them, but leaves an opening for Gohan, powered up into Super Saiyan 4, to attack. Mechickaboola stops Gohan’s kick, but his subsequent blast against Gohan is blocked by a combination of Robel and Chamel’s magic, allowing the Saiyan to retreat.

Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto rushes in and lands successful physical and ki-based attacks against Mechickaboola. Mechickaboola is impressed by this mere mortal’s strength, but proclaims all attacks ineffective against his newly immortal state.

Mechickaboola is stopped once again by Demigra’s chains, as he and Vegetto look down to see that the Kaiо̄shin of Time has finished recharging the Keysword, wielded by Super Saiyan God Trunks.

Mechickaboola taunts them, saying that even if a strengthened sword can resist his dark powers, it means nothing without the ability to do damage. He can simply regenerate from any attack they can land.

Demigra pulls Mechickaboola toward the sword, and Trunks strikes. At first the blow seems ineffective, but a large seal baring the Kaiо̄shin of Time’s crest soon appears across Mechickaboola’s chest. Trunks and the others have combined all four of the power of the gods, the power of darkness, the power of light, and the power of time in order to seal Mechickaboola away. Trunks strikes him one more time with the sword, sealing him in an “Eternal Labyrinth.” Mechickaboola vows to escape as a rift in space-time closes in on him, but the portal seals him away before he can finish cursing the Time Patrol’s name.

The team celebrates its victory, but Chamel points out that they remain trapped in a dark, ruined world. The Kaiо̄shin of Time admits that the time Mechickaboola swallowed up was sealed away along with him, and she has no way of restoring it on her own. Pan breaks down crying. Tokitoki lets out a cry and assumes a giant form, hovering over a now-restored Time Nest.

Old Kaiо̄shin, now awake, explains that this is the true form and power of Tokitoki, the one who rules over time. However, it is not merely his work, but the work of the Kaiо̄shin of Time who so diligently raised him, that has led to these auspicious results.

The heroes celebrate anew. Cracks begin to appear in Chamel and Robel’s skin—the result of the Time Nest’s restored seal. Demigra orders a retreat while promising to one day take the throne of Kaiо̄shin of Time for himself. The Time Patrol vows to stop him. Recommitting to fighting for the sake of time, they strike their victory pose—to Pan’s confusion and Vegeta’s frustration.

The Kaiо̄shin of Time chastises Vegeta for not going along with the pose, and Pan says she wants to learn too.

Old Kaiо̄shin waves goodbye beside Tokitoki as the narration promises that the Time Patrol’s adventures have not yet come to an end. Next issue, could it be ... ?

Series end

Universe Mission Chapter 12 (Also the last, I assume, though it wasn't specifically marked that way)

Spoiler:

Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission Chapter 12
Date: February 1, 2020, Saikyо̄ Jump March 2020 issue
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Illustration page text: (Kanji) The great universal conflict (Furigana) Universe Mission – Reaches its grand conclusion!!

Summary: In the aftermath of her battle with Piccolo and #17, Lagss nurses her wounds and prepares to return to Hearts. However, Majin Ozotto appears from a whirl of darkness and dissolves her into a cloud of black smoke, which he absorbs. Having finally obtained the power of the Glass Tribe, he plays with his new abilities—creating a tower of glass and a hovering crystalline ball of spikes. He notes that planet seems not to have much time left, and vanishes as he came. Hearts’ meteor bares down overhead.

Trapped under Hearts’ gigantic gravity cube and helpless to stop the meteor, Goku responds to Vegeta’s request for Fusion. He asks if Vegeta is serious given his dislike of the Fusion Dance, but Vegeta responds that they can use Potara instead. Vegeta shouts to the Kaiо̄shin of Universe 6, cowering behind a tree outside the cube, to hand his earrings over. The Kaiо̄shin hasn’t brought them however, as they were taken by Kale and Caulifla earlier. In addition, as he only came along to ferry Jiren and Hit, he’d rather not get involved.

Goku pleads to Vegeta to consider the dance, but Vegeta notes that given the current gravity, they odds of successfully aligning their movements are practically non-existent. Jiren lifts himself off the ground and says that if all they need is time to move, he can buy it.

Powering up to his limits—and losing his shirt in the process—Jiren orders Vegeta and Goku to fuse within the time he can manage to push the gravity back with his ki. (Don’t ask how that works—I mean I guess it’s not actually “gravity” gravity; just the force of Hearts’ technique.)

As Jiren pushes back with his ki, Hit sneaks up behind Hearts with the Time Skip and lands a single punch. Hearts mocks its power, but its true aim was to land Hearts in the “Time Prison” technique, preventing him from moving. It only lasts an instant, though, before Hearts is able to break free by releasing more of the Universe Seed’s power. Hearts prepares to attack Hit, but just then, Goku and Vegeta successfully complete their fusion.

Gogeta calls out to Hearts from the ground, asking him to show him the power of the Universe Seed he’s so proud of.

Gogeta attacks Hearts relentlessly in his Super Saiyan Blue form. Though he thinks the direction of each blow clearly before doing it, Hearts is unable to keep up with his actions. Gogeta taunts him over his inability to respond despite likely hearing his thoughts.

Hearts unleashes the Universe Seed’s full power, sending a swarm of small cube-shaped projectiles toward Gogeta. Gogeta weaves through most of them, but is caught by one, which expands into a gravity prison around him allowing the other projectiles to hit him.

Hearts monologues about how Gogeta doesn’t understand as the Saiyan emerges unscathed from the explosion. The universes only exist at the whim of the gods, who could destroy them at a moment’s fleeting displeasure.

Gogeta prepares a Kamehameha and says he has no intention of understanding Hearts’ ideals. He doubts Hearts would be able to achieve his aims with his current power anyway. And besides, while it may not be much, Gogeta already lives as he pleases.

Gogeta at Hearts and the meteor simultaneously. As Hearts is engulfed by the blast, he comments that though he finds these “brainwashed” mortals pitiful, he sought to save them anyway. He genuinely prays they find peace in the next life.

To Hearts’ shock, however, Gogeta is able to successfully shatter the meteor. As Hearts, dying, taunts him over the outcome remaining unchanged—the falling chunks of the meteor can still wipe out life on the Earth—Gogeta fires back that a lover of mortals like him should know better. Humans aren’t weak enough to allow that.

Across the planet, Goku’s allies—Piccolo, #17, Trunks, the Kaiо̄shin (who has brought along Mai), Jiren, Hit, Kuririn, #18, Gohan, Kame-Sennin, Tenshinhan and Chaozu—all work to destroy the falling pieces of the meteor before the land.

Hearts observes their success and crumbles to dust, saying that with their strength, they may just be able to defy the fate the gods have chosen for them yet.

The heroes reunite at the battlefield. Goku—now defused—questions Trunks about what happened in Universe 11. Piccolo lets it slip that he was caught off guard by the glass-user, whose glassification wore off with her defeat, which Vegeta berates him for. #17 says Vegeta out to let it slide—they’ve just saved the universe after all.

Fu observes the outcome from his laboratory, elated by how interesting things wound up. No matter how much he studies these Saiyans, he never tires of the results. Now, he says, holding up a glass sphere, it’s time for the true test to start.

Side narration: What is this sphere Fu holds ... ?! Next issue, a truly frightening experiment begins!!

There's also a one-page teaser for the upcoming Big Bang Mission!!! (yes, the exclamation marks are part of the name) manga, beginning next issue:

Spoiler:

Fu on the preview page: "Let’s get started ... with the test that will blow this all open!”

"The Prison Planet was only the beginning ... Utilizing the data gleaned there, Fu's true experiement begins. What is Fu's goal, and what powers will it yield? The heroes of both Universe Mission and Dark Demon Realm Mission! appear! An experiment set to embroil all of both space and time begins!"

[Rouge the Bat]

So, Salsa and Shroom don't have their Dark Forms in the manga since they share the same doom as Towa and the other Demon Gods!!...

I'm a bit sad DDRM is now over because I really love it, bit I hope BIG BANG MISSION will use its Xeno characters (including Demon Gods and Demigra's army of course) again!!...
I also miss a manga adaptation of "the Birth of the Dark Realm Demon" when Demigra was a "sorcerer" (that is Dragon Ball Heroes - God Mission 7) :

Birth of the Dark Realm Demon (taken from the DB Wikia : https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dark ... Realm_Saga )

"Demigra heads 75,000,000 years into the past, where he encounters his past self - back when he worked alongside Chronoa, his new goal being to have his past self absorb Tokitoki, and thus history would be changed so that Demigra would be successful. Demigra brought with him a possessed version of Great Ape Gohan him in order to stall anyone attempting to interfere with his plans. He allies with his past self, and his old allies from the past: Putine and Gravy, and watches as they do battle with Chronoa. Chronoa defeats them, but Demigra attacks her, she is quickly overwhelmed but is saved by the arrival of Super Saiyan God Beat, who had come back through time along with the Supreme Kai of Time and Zen after realizing that time was being disrupted. Beat and Demigra both power up and engage each other in combat."



I'd like to see Towa and Mira again, they are great characters... and the scene with Towa and Fu as a baby!!...

[Majin Demigra]

So, Lagss being absorbed freed everyone she turned into glass... that means Zamasu should still be around in the Manga-verse, right?

That's a REALLY good question

[Cipher]

I had the same thought. Kind of doubt they'll ever touch on it though.

[Majin Demigra]

We're still left wondering what Ozotto's real endgame is, he just pops In and out of the story.

[Rouge the Bat]

I wonder if BIG BANG MISSION manga's chapters will be twice longer than DDRM and UM since there will be only one SDBH manga left in Saikyô Jump's next issue...

[Zamasu55]

So, Lagss being absorbed freed everyone she turned into glass... that means Zamasu should still be around in the Manga-verse, right?

That's a REALLY good question

Trunks sliced him in half, so no.

[Majin Demigra]

So, Lagss being absorbed freed everyone she turned into glass... that means Zamasu should still be around in the Manga-verse, right?

That's a REALLY good question

Trunks sliced him in half, so no.

Zamasu is immortal(which Heroes has amped up to conceptual level), and has regeneration so I doubt being cut in half would be a problem.

[Gohan123]

Cipher's summaries to the latest SDBH chapters:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cipher_db/st ... 0751264771

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cipher_db/st ... 7657387009

Also, just in case anyone wants to read available translated chapters here (up to 15 only for DDR, still WIP):

https://mangadex.org/title/28585/super- ... lm-mission

Complete version for Mechikabura chapter 17

https://m.facebook.com/220530438325151/ ... 2825/?_rdr

[Rouge the Bat]

The final fight seems a bit short, doesn't it?!...
Anyway, I guess Mechi will be back some day...

[Xeogran]

Gogeta Blue's power was demonstrated well here. He felt fast and powerful, especially when he effortlessly got out of Hearts' cube.
Happy to see Ozotto again too, his master plan will be something grand for sure.

[Zamasu Black]

So how exactly did Xeno Goten beat Dabura? Dabura was meant to be an enhanced Demon God so strong that Xeno Vegeta wanted to fuse with Xeno Goku to fight him.

Salsa as a normal Demon God killed Xeno Buu after absorbing Dabura and Janemba. And just the normal Xeno Buu was stronger than Super Saiyan Trunks.

But then Super Saiyan Goku killed the enhanced Demon God Salsa. How does that work? That seems all over the place.

[Rakurai]

So how exactly did Xeno Goten beat Dabura? Dabura was meant to be an enhanced Demon God so strong that Xeno Vegeta wanted to fuse with Xeno Goku to fight him.

Salsa as a normal Demon God killed Xeno Buu after absorbing Dabura and Janemba. And just the normal Xeno Buu was stronger than Super Saiyan Trunks.

But then Super Saiyan Goku killed the enhanced Demon God Salsa. How does that work? That seems all over the place.

XVegeta also implies that they weren't at full power before (he says this to Gravy in the Hell Gate), but yeah the way he was shocked at XDabura's attack you'd think that they'd be on a whole other level.

Anyways all the battles aside from XGohan & XGoku's were skipped so we can assume that XGoten is more powerful than whatever XDabura showed in the GTverse.