I don't like it simply due to nostalgia nor did I watch the Ocean dub to look at the silly decisions that were made. For all it's problems I do think many of the performances and even the music is good. I like it, unironically.Forte224 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:19 am Not on the internet, no. Too many people irrationally claiming that the edited versions are the best versions simply because "It's the one I grew up with" and vehemently defending them. With friends though, sure, it can be fun to look back and see some of the silly decisions they made and reflect on why specifically they might have made a change.
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I agree. The music in the original 2 seasons was actually pretty good, definitely superior to most of the first Falconer tracks.ABED wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:50 amI don't like it simply due to nostalgia nor did I watch the Ocean dub to look at the silly decisions that were made. For all it's problems I do think many of the performances and even the music is good. I like it, unironically.Forte224 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:19 am Not on the internet, no. Too many people irrationally claiming that the edited versions are the best versions simply because "It's the one I grew up with" and vehemently defending them. With friends though, sure, it can be fun to look back and see some of the silly decisions they made and reflect on why specifically they might have made a change.
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I'm gonna agree with ABED; it's not just nostalgia, though I'll freely admit that I'm biased by nostalgia. However, between Funi's on-the-whole entirely god-awful work throughout their in-house Z dub, and Ocean's great performances with crappy scripts, weird censorship, and goofy music...Forte224 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:19 am Not on the internet, no. Too many people irrationally claiming that the edited versions are the best versions simply because "It's the one I grew up with" and vehemently defending them. With friends though, sure, it can be fun to look back and see some of the silly decisions they made and reflect on why specifically they might have made a change.
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i do think there is some value in the ocean dub as i like a good bit of the voices and i find the way the series got censored to be really interesting, but i can't agree with the music. it just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
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It’s far less annoying/ear bleeding than the Faulconer score, so it has that going for it. But it’s otherwise pretty basic. The fact that it was done by the guy who did the music for Mighty Morphin Power Rangers really shows one piece in particular sounds straight up lifted from Power RangersSoppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmi do think there is some value in the ocean dub as i like a good bit of the voices and i find the way the series got censored to be really interesting, but i can't agree with the music. it just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
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Basic, but I find it enjoyable. That said, I love the music used for the scene when Goku arrives to save Gohan from Nappa. I think it also played when he arrived on Namek. It gives me goose bumps.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 pmIt’s far less annoying/ear bleeding than the Faulconer score, so it has that going for it. But it’s otherwise pretty basic. The fact that it was done by the guy who did the music for Mighty Morphin Power Rangers really shows one piece in particular sounds straight up lifted from Power RangersSoppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmi do think there is some value in the ocean dub as i like a good bit of the voices and i find the way the series got censored to be really interesting, but i can't agree with the music. it just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
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Yeah the aggressive menace is definitely what sticks out in my memory the most along with the heroic "Goku arrives" track mentioned above.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmit just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
While the Saban-era music was higher quality and felt far more professional than the in-house music, I will say that Faulconer had much more of a creative imagination in his work. I almost called him a visionary, but I think that may be a bit much.
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If Faulconer’s cell phone hadn’t gone off in his washing machine who knows what the music might of sounded like.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:54 pm, I will say that Faulconer had much more of a creative imagination in his work. I almost called him a visionary, but I think that may be a bit much.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmit just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
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oh yeah i do not like the faulconer score, often times there's just way to much going on in the songs (the guitars in his vegeta theme....) and it just doesn't work. not to mention i find it extremely corny but not in like a good way because it's dumb and it knows it, but more so in a bad way where it's trying too hard to be cool, but ymmv on that one.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 pmIt’s far less annoying/ear bleeding than the Faulconer score, so it has that going for it. But it’s otherwise pretty basic. The fact that it was done by the guy who did the music for Mighty Morphin Power Rangers really shows one piece in particular sounds straight up lifted from Power RangersSoppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmi do think there is some value in the ocean dub as i like a good bit of the voices and i find the way the series got censored to be really interesting, but i can't agree with the music. it just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
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Ron Wasserman had a far deeper resume than the Faulconer guys, which is why it would seem like a more natural fit for a show. He also said he thought the music he was making for the show was really dark and unorthodox compared to stuff like Power Rangers. But ever since the Wasserman-influenced Faulconer score came out, people have started criticizing him for making generic saturday morning cartoon music on DBZ, when he never even intended to do that in the first place.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:54 pmYeah the aggressive menace is definitely what sticks out in my memory the most along with the heroic "Goku arrives" track mentioned above.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmit just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
While the Saban-era music was higher quality and felt far more professional than the in-house music, I will say that Faulconer had much more of a creative imagination in his work. I almost called him a visionary, but I think that may be a bit much.
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Kakacarrottop wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:33 pmRon Wasserman had a far deeper resume than the Faulconer guys, which is why it would seem like a more natural fit for a show. He also said he thought the music he was making for the show was really dark and unorthodox compared to stuff like Power Rangers. But ever since the Wasserman-influenced Faulconer score came out, people have started criticizing him for making generic saturday morning cartoon music on DBZ, when he never even intended to do that in the first place.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:54 pmYeah the aggressive menace is definitely what sticks out in my memory the most along with the heroic "Goku arrives" track mentioned above.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:35 pmit just sounds so goofy and sometimes it's like strangely really menacing ? it's weird.
While the Saban-era music was higher quality and felt far more professional than the in-house music, I will say that Faulconer had much more of a creative imagination in his work. I almost called him a visionary, but I think that may be a bit much.
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I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that both Ron Wasserman and Bruce Faulconer said they weren’t trying to make generic kids cartoon music which lolololol
I still think the Wasserman score is better but it really doesn’t sound out of place from your typical Power Rangers episode
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If I'm watching an edited version, it's just to rip on it and cringe usually. There are definitely parts to complain about, especially in translation, but I never watched the show with severely edited footage.
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I've got some old recorded episodes of Ocean and FUNi in house dubbed DBZ from Toonami way back in the day but rarely ever do i go back to watching them but only once in a great while. Given that the original uncut version is more than readily available and at my fingertips, both by way of the original Japanese version on my Dragon Boxes and a very good accurate dub with Kai. With that said at this point there really isn't much reason for me to watch them in that heavily cut down form, although it is funny to break them out every now and then to see and laugh at the ridiculous '90s edits and hilariously bad dialogue and jokes again. It is kind of nostalgic in some ways when i go and view those tapes every so often, but generally given how long the series has been available uncut the old edited version really is of little value to me.
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