What canon or non-canon character(s) would you like to see return in the next installment of Dragon Ball?

[Grimlock]

All that's left is to find a way to bring over the original Broly from Movie 8 so we can have 3 Brolys.

We already have the ways (through Goku Black's portal or clashing techniques at each other making you go to a place which may connect to other dimensions), we just need now someone who'll step out of the safe zone to do it in the series without being afraid.

[sintzu]

I have watched DBZ Broly trilogy films combined more times than DBS Broly and thats sayin sumthin. I dont wish to rant, but points needs to be justified nah.

I think the original Broly movie was all that he needed. It did what it set out to do and they should've just moved on from there. There's was no creative reason for them to give him THREE more movies and an alternate U6 counterpart.

We already have the ways we just need now someone who'll step out of the safe zone to do it in the series without being afraid.

Bringing in a 3rd Broly is as safe as you can get so chances are someone down the line will bring him over. They can also through in Ssj4 Broly from Heroes as well.

[Cursed Lemon]

The plot. Truly a shell of its deep, tragic & dark tale from Z series & Broly films.

I'm gonna need you to go ahead and elaborate here, because wat

[Vijay]

The plot. Truly a shell of its deep, tragic & dark tale from Z series & Broly films.

I'm gonna need you to go ahead and elaborate here, because wat

Cool. Its like this.
Saiyan~Frieza Arc dropped various pieces of info on Saiyan race, Planet Vegeta's fate, Bardock & King Vegeta's link to Frieza, extinction of Saiyans, legendary Super Saiyan status not seen over thousands of years throughout its 100+ episodes/chapters Not only they added more fuel towards Goku/Veggie raging battle against Frieza, but the overall depth & intricate plot threads were woven so neatly

DBZ M8 added its own twist giving Broly's insane PL settling unease of King Vegeta, thereby sentencing execution of newborn child & Paragas all taking place as Frieza's geneocide on its way. Broly's childhood trauma magnified by his blood-thirstry SSJ gene transformed him into rampaging beast that Paragus decided 2 harness & exact his revenge. Its dark, brooding & frankly, great story-telling

By comparison, DBS Super felt superficial. As said b4, taking 3 story arcs, Bardock special & M8 storyline, watering it down considerably, (hey...lets have Baby Broly eat some monsters...hey let Paragas an idiot...hey lets make Frieza a comedian) doesnt do its original any justice nor does it feel great to stand on its own merits as all it did was borrowing ideas from 90's....frickin 90's era

[ABED]

I wouldn't call that deep. It's better than the retread but it's not great storytelling. It served its purpose for 70 minute movie, but nothing more.

[Vijay]

Deep by DBZ's standard. Unless you start comparing with other "deep" anime out there

Kinda ironic considerin how we've been spoiled by so many anime series with multi-layered storyline over the years (FMAB, HXH, DN to name a few) yet during its original airing, DBZ M8 was by far most story-driven film (close to 25 mins) of foreshadowing, premonitions, buildups & its reception definetly propelled its trilogy

[ABED]

It's not. What do you mean by deep?

Death Note is not deep either, nor good. How it gained this reputation for greatness, I'll never understand.

It seems like what you mean by deep is dark. The two aren't synonyms. Depth is about the level of understanding of what's motivating the characters. We have a deep understanding about what's motivating Vegeta. All we know about Broly is there's some sense of destiny about his confrontation with Goku. I don't like destiny as a storytelling device. It's almost always lazy writing.

[Vijay]

Its called perception.

Also, in case u havent noticed, all your points thus far have been only about ur level of understanding, comprehension, ur liking, ur perspective of thinking or storytelling etc

As much as I dislike DN' 2 major story Arcs and how some of its reasonings/theories/ideas seemed to have been pulled from thin air, the show was at very least...engaging to be watched. Maybe MadHouse's bombastic execution, or Light's narcisism or simply creators ability to push the envelope.

FMAB was no different. As much as I hated initial 25 episodes or so, gotta say its eventual grander scheme of things were impressive af

M8 Broly was a rock solid film. No doubt. Its among my top 5 anime films & its crazy to think how a film made back in 1993 still has its impact on 2019.

Compared to hollow M7: Android 13 or blurrish M4: Lord Slug film...or derivative Dr. Wheelo film...M8 was a great watch

[ABED]

Also, in case u havent noticed, all your points thus far have been only about ur level of understanding, comprehension, ur liking, ur perspective of thinking or storytelling etc

No, I have a solid level of understanding and it's objectively not deep. A kid who's at the whim of his power who has no discernible reason for wanting to fight Goku other than a sense of destiny is not a deep character. You still have yet to explain what you take to mean by "deep".

You make a much bigger deal about M8's impact and greatness. Broly is memorable because he has a cool design and he's a wrecking machine. That's why he has a fanbase. Dr. Wheelo is derivative of what?

[Vijay]

Also, in case u havent noticed, all your points thus far have been only about ur level of understanding, comprehension, ur liking, ur perspective of thinking or storytelling etc

No, I have a solid level of understanding and it's objectively not deep. A kid who's at the whim of his power who has no discernible reason for wanting to fight Goku other than a sense of destiny is not a deep character. You still have yet to explain what you take to mean by "deep".

You make a much bigger deal about M8's impact and greatness. Broly is memorable because he has a cool design and he's a wrecking machine. That's why he has a fanbase. Dr. Wheelo is derivative of what?

Ignorance is bliss.

A newborn with such insane PL was subjected to execution, disposed off as garbage alongside his Dad who only pleaded for his mercy. The dormant power erupted forcefully as means of survival further amplifying his already unstable mindset

Adding to barbaric saiyan nature & exclusive LSSJ form bestowed upon his son, Paragas wanted to exact his revenge on King Vegeta's blood-line who left him & his newborn child to die as pieces of trash

How?
1. Control Broly's power
2. Wreck havoc on Southern Galaxy
3. Request Veggie's help to rebuild New Planet Vegeta & eradicate looming LSSJ threat somewhere hoping to stir Saiyan instincts within
4. Setting a planet with Comet Comuri on collision course as insurance incase his plans didnt work exactly as predicted

If these arent "great" or deep for you...peace upon ya

[Block88]

How bout none
Sure it’s nice to see them back for a lil cameo but I prefer creating things that could rival the past instead leaching from like usual.

[Vijay]

How bout none
Sure it’s nice to see them back for a lil cameo but I prefer creating things that could rival the past instead leaching from like usual.

It would be great. Unless its not gonna happen anytime soon.

Frieza, Broly was recycled. Hell, they were soo dearth of ideas that they gotta implement evil goku concept & bam!! Black

[Cursed Lemon]

Also, in case u havent noticed, all your points thus far have been only about ur level of understanding, comprehension, ur liking, ur perspective of thinking or storytelling etc

No, I have a solid level of understanding and it's objectively not deep. A kid who's at the whim of his power who has no discernible reason for wanting to fight Goku other than a sense of destiny is not a deep character. You still have yet to explain what you take to mean by "deep".

You make a much bigger deal about M8's impact and greatness. Broly is memorable because he has a cool design and he's a wrecking machine. That's why he has a fanbase. Dr. Wheelo is derivative of what?

Ignorance is bliss.

A newborn with such insane PL was subjected to execution, disposed off as garbage alongside his Dad who only pleaded for his mercy. The dormant power erupted forcefully as means of survival further amplifying his already unstable mindset

Adding to barbaric saiyan nature & exclusive LSSJ form bestowed upon his son, Paragas wanted to exact his revenge on King Vegeta's blood-line who left him & his newborn child to die as pieces of trash

How?
1. Control Broly's power
2. Wreck havoc on Southern Galaxy
3. Request Veggie's help to rebuild New Planet Vegeta & eradicate looming LSSJ threat somewhere hoping to stir Saiyan instincts within
4. Setting a planet with Comet Comuri on collision course as insurance incase his plans didnt work exactly as predicted

If these arent "great" or deep for you...peace upon ya

That's not deep. That's a plot. And it's certainly not dark or tragic.

A plot can't reasonably be referred to as "deep" unless it contains layers, subterfuge, foreshadowing, subverted expectations, some kind of bait-and-switch device, or any other complex story-driving mechanic.

[Vijay]

No, I have a solid level of understanding and it's objectively not deep. A kid who's at the whim of his power who has no discernible reason for wanting to fight Goku other than a sense of destiny is not a deep character. You still have yet to explain what you take to mean by "deep".

You make a much bigger deal about M8's impact and greatness. Broly is memorable because he has a cool design and he's a wrecking machine. That's why he has a fanbase. Dr. Wheelo is derivative of what?

Ignorance is bliss.

A newborn with such insane PL was subjected to execution, disposed off as garbage alongside his Dad who only pleaded for his mercy. The dormant power erupted forcefully as means of survival further amplifying his already unstable mindset

Adding to barbaric saiyan nature & exclusive LSSJ form bestowed upon his son, Paragas wanted to exact his revenge on King Vegeta's blood-line who left him & his newborn child to die as pieces of trash

How?
1. Control Broly's power
2. Wreck havoc on Southern Galaxy
3. Request Veggie's help to rebuild New Planet Vegeta & eradicate looming LSSJ threat somewhere hoping to stir Saiyan instincts within
4. Setting a planet with Comet Comuri on collision course as insurance incase his plans didnt work exactly as predicted

If these arent "great" or deep for you...peace upon ya

That's not deep. That's a plot. And it's certainly not dark or tragic.

A plot can't reasonably be referred to as "deep" unless it contains layers, subterfuge, foreshadowing, subverted expectations, some kind of bait-and-switch device, or any other complex story-driving mechanic.

Which it did. All those things u mentioned

Broly was introduced as generic random dude who looked like homeless beggar that lost all his properties in fire accident

His face-off with Goku @ stairways with Paragus calming Broly down from far showed multiple layers:

1. Paragas had his own agenda & doesnt wish Broly fck it up. Dude also possesed complete control over Broly
2. Broly has some unknown grudge against this random guy who he just met
3. Broly's facial expressions & vocal change was 1st sneak peek into his broken mental psyche

Alas, it was subverted. It was via flashback & Broly's subsequent attack on Goku that we've got our general overview of Broly's personality & their intertwined past.

Once again, what promised to be an all-out fight was merely teased & expectations were put on hold. Goku discovered Broly's identity which King Kai mentioned, with Paragus finally finding out reason for Broly goin berserk & Broly finally showed a glimpse of his terrifying stature (special thx to Masaki Sato 4 rendering such a wonderful "over-looming" shot as dude laughed & Paragas attempted to calm him down)

Oh did I mention how Paragas lured everyone just so they'd be crushed by Comet Cumori...only to be thrown towards Comet Cumori by his own son. Foreshadow much?

Finding & thwarthing the LSSJ that wrecked Southern Galaxy WAS the driving force-mechanic of this film.

It was Paragas masking his true agenda & ambition of taking over Earth by eradicating all Saiyans & ruling universe using Broly which added multiple layers to this otherwise straight-forward film

[Cursed Lemon]

Broly was introduced as generic random dude who looked like homeless beggar that lost all his properties in fire accident

The movie is called "Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan".

We get flashbacks.

There's no mystery involved.

His face-off with Goku @ stairways with Paragus calming Broly down from far showed multiple layers:

1. Paragas had his own agenda & doesnt wish Broly fck it up. Dude also possesed complete control over Broly
2. Broly has some unknown grudge against this random guy who he just met
3. Broly's facial expressions & vocal change was 1st sneak peek into his broken mental psyche

That's not what a "layer" is. Layers are subplots occurring simultaneously (either in-universe or as depicted in the cinematography) that are cleverly woven together in a way not foreseen by the audience. M8 contains none of that.

Alas, it was subverted. It was via flashback & Broly's subsequent attack on Goku that we've got our general overview of Broly's personality & their intertwined past.

I don't think you know what "subversion" means. I'm not sure you know what any of those terms mean.

Once again, what promised to be an all-out fight was merely teased & expectations were put on hold. Goku discovered Broly's identity which King Kai mentioned, with Paragus finally finding out reason for Broly goin berserk & Broly finally showed a glimpse of his terrifying stature (special thx to Masaki Sato 4 rendering such a wonderful "over-looming" shot as dude laughed & Paragas attempted to calm him down)

I don't know what point you're trying to prove with this.

Oh did I mention how Paragas lured everyone just so they'd be crushed by Comet Cumori...only to be thrown towards Comet Cumori by his own son. Foreshadow much?

That's not foreshadowing. That's irony.

It was Paragas masking his true agenda & ambition of taking over Earth by eradicating all Saiyans & ruling universe using Broly which added multiple layers to this otherwise straight-forward film

Again, that's a plot.

[ABED]

Vijay, you still have yet to explain what you mean by "depth".

I hope we don't ever see the three Broly's together on screen. Ever since The Flash started using it, I've grown to dislike the multiverse.

[sintzu]

I hope we don't ever see the three Broly's together on screen. Ever since The Flash started using it, I've grown to dislike the multiverse.

We will be lucky if we just get 3.

[ABED]

I hope we don't ever see the three Broly's together on screen. Ever since The Flash started using it, I've grown to dislike the multiverse.

We will be lucky if we just get 3.

That's a tad cynical. I don't think it will happen nor do I think we'll get any more versions of Broly.

[omegacwa]

No more Broly please. I don't even want him to come back for the show/manga. Just leave him be. I want new characters and stories. Let's move into the future not dwell on the past. I'm ok with a couple throwbacks now and then but we don't need all the DB movies remade and all the movie characters canonized.

[sintzu]

No more Broly please. I don't even want him to come back for the show/manga. Just leave him be. I want new characters and stories. Let's move into the future not dwell on the past.

Broly was too successful for the focus of the franchise to shift away from classic nostalgic ideas.