This is not the same damn thing as Disney trying to cover up racially insensitive parts of its past. That's a completely different issue than changing the aspect ratio or a cheap remastering job. You also falsely equivocate this to the Gunn situation. Apples and oranges. One is fans complaining about a DVD release, the other is people sticking up for a man who was fired unjustly because some assholes used some insensitive tweets to hurt someone whose political opinions they disagreed with.Robo4900 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:48 amRespectfully, this is about the most frustrating response to this I've received so far.ABED wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 amRobo, you are putting this issue on the same level as fighting for individual liberties. This isn't remotely like that. It's a crappy home video release, that's it. Lamentable to be sure, but to effectively call someone "selfish" shows a lack of perspective.
You say FUNi is maliciously holding back on giving a good quality release, but what do they gain?
Yes, I'm aware there are more important issues than this. But making a Tweet or two to finally get a home release of this classic show that isn't shit? That's too much to ask? That's me being unreasonable? That's me lacking perspective?
Sir, I would argue you lack perspective. This isn't just Dragon Ball, remember. Disney's movies, Cowboy Bebop, and much more, are having their historical significance trampled on, and the desires of the hardcore fans being given a middle finger. Not in service of a cheaper release, or marketing to the plebs -- the layperson doesn't give a shit about grain or cropping either way, they just want that show they remember from a while back to watch -- so, to refer to your second point, clearly Funi had nothing to gain from doing this their way, therefore they had no reason not to do it properly, therefore whether they intended malice or not, their attitudes are abhorrent, their respect for the show and its fans is zilch, and they deserve nothing less than for the entire fandom to be aware that all these shitty releases were shitty for no reason. And as we saw with things like the James Gunn fiasco (both the firing, and the eventual re-hiring), it doesn't take a majority of an audience to get shit done, it just takes enough internet complaining to make the company get a little uncomfortable, for better or for worse...
So, yes. Deciding that the few minutes it would take to make a Tweet or two isn't worth it, is selfish. It shows that one is unwilling to do anything to improve their situation. Yes, this is "Just" a TV show. But in my opinion, if a company is treating its fans like shit, treating a landmark show like this like shit, outright lying, and showing malicious attitudes, presenting releases that ultimately turn the fans against each-other in a toxic way (which the 30th sets were precision-engineered to do; anyone who buys the sets are doing wrong because they're supporting a shit release, anyone who doesn't buy the sets are doing wrong because they're not supporting the first 4:3 release in a decade. We've all seen the fallout from this)...
I think, given all I've laid out, this is worth at least a Tweet or two. Especially since it would actually take less effort than arguing about it, or even making a single somewhat-dismissive post about it, here on Kanzenshuu.
I realise this post is already far longer than it should be, but I'd like to take this opportunity here to acknowledge a limitation of myself, and my presence on this forum, and online in general, since I think this may already be an issue: I am not very good at speaking passionately online without sounding angry. I try, and I think I've got better at it, but I'm still not great. And when I disagree with people in such situations, I can often come off as quite mean. I'd like anyone reading to please understand that this is never my intention. I'm just trying to argue my side truthfully, honestly, and convincingly. I truly believe everything I'm saying here, and I am truly angry that Funi have had 20 years to get this right, and yet there's still not a single release of this bloody show that I wouldn't call a pile of un-buyable shit (and I'm not exaggerating in the slightest). They could have done it at any point, and made countless people (myself included) very happy, and done away with, I'll be honest, some real stress about the fact I can't legally enjoy this show. It's impossible. These shitty releases, I just straight-up can't enjoy watching them. I'd just spend every moment cringing at how bad it looks. And in the depressing world we live in, not having this show to enjoy, this thing that has always been present in my life, always able to bring a smile to my face, always able to lighten me up in a dark moment? That's bullshit.
... So, to bring this semi-stream-of-consciousness... Rant? (For lack of a better term) To an end, I would like to apologise if I've upset anyone by asserting my views as strongly as I often end up doing. Please do not hesitate to call me out if I've been mean, I honestly don't want to make anyone feel unwelcome or uncomfortable interacting with me, and I would like to apologise if I have done so. Counter to precisely what I was just talking about, this is ultimately a TV show, and it's not worth being mean to anyone speaking in good faith, over this.
You and others use terms like "the fans" like we're some monolith, but hardcore fans make up such a small number of the overall audience and as much as it bothers me to see so many people ignorant about something as simple as aspect ratios, those fans that don't care what the shape of the image is for DBZ are still fans, and let's face it, more people care about the image fitting their TV than artistic integrity and cinematography. It's why we had Pan & Scan for years as the default.
Trying to change that many people's views over something so trivial is a hill I'm not willing to die on.