FatGoku wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:57 pm
<every character> was featured in Super, but not really utilized.
ftfy
Seriously, no one is actually utilised in Super, despite pretty much everyone being featured in it.
ABED wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:00 pm
The last thing the story needed was to be drawn out.
As I laid out in my post, there's a lot of cool stuff you could do by telling this story over a longer span of episodes. GT was probably the best Dragon Ball's ever been at pacing its episodes well, the plot was always very well balanced across a given span of episodes, so to me, it seems clear that if they'd been given more episodes, they could've gone some very interesting places with the Evil Dragons arc.
As it stands, the Evil Dragons arc is quite lean and quick, but as a result, no one is particularly fleshed out, you don't really feel the impact on the world for everyday people... It did well given the number of episodes it had, but it could've been a lot more with more time.
It's like Avengers: Age Of Ultron. Solid movie, does well with the time it has, but it should have been longer. (Which is really Joss Whedon's fault; he decided he'd make it shorter than Avengers 1, and his hubris led him to pursue this task to the film's detriment. Still, reasons for time constraints don't really matter; the point is that there were constraints of time, and they weakened the end product)
ABED wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:00 pm
Of all the dragons, you picked the toxic sludge one? He's very memorable. It doesn't take long to leave an impression.
He's memorable and gives an impression... As being really annoying. He's the Jar-Jar of Dragon Ball villains, let's be honest here.
ABED wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:00 pm
You know who gives a Buu vibe? Buu. We dont' need another.
Missing the point entirely. I didn't say he should be like Boo, I used Boo as a comparison for a creepy, unsettling villain. Obviously he's not like Boo, and recontextualising him in the way I described wouldn't make him like Boo. Boo is just a useful comparison to get across my point. He's a comparison I'm attempting to use to more clearly communicate the idea I'm trying to get across.
Please read this part of my post very carefully before replying.
ABED wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:00 pm
Not every character needs to stand out any way. If everyone does, no one does.
What?... That's crazy talk.
Should Toriyama have put less effort into the Red Ribbon generals at making them distinct, unique threats too?
If you're introducing a character, and there's a way to make them really cool and interesting, you do that. Doesn't matter if they're a one-episode wonder, part of an ensemble, or a big bad; if you can make them interesting, you do that. Does the fact that every villain in Batman The Animated Series was interesting and cool in their own right diminish everyone? No. That would be utterly stupid. It makes it a better show that basically every episode, basically ever villain, basically every side character is memorable and interesting in their own right. That's a large part of why it's a classic.
ABED wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:00 pm
I think most of the characters are used about as well as they should. Tenshinhan comes back at strategic times to help out and even if he only amount to a distraction, it buys time for the heroes and a nice cheer moment for the audience.
The only character I'd like to see more of is Yajirobe and Bulma. Yeah, I know she's one of the main characters but her tech is valuable and her chemistry with Goku is one of the highlights of the entire story.
Fair enough.
The point of Dragon Ball is to enjoy it. Never lose sight of that.