Which was your favorite training?
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Which was your favorite training?
While I do think that Goku and Kuririn training under Muten Roshi is the most iconic one, I kinda really loved Goku training alone on his way to Namek.
It's not his first gravity training, but after he finishes, and return the gravity to the normal level, and then sees how light, and fast he is...
It simply felt really earned afterwards, especially during his demonstration in front of Ginyu Force.
Gohan training with Goten in the nature was also cool.
It's not his first gravity training, but after he finishes, and return the gravity to the normal level, and then sees how light, and fast he is...
It simply felt really earned afterwards, especially during his demonstration in front of Ginyu Force.
Gohan training with Goten in the nature was also cool.
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The training at Korin tower that Goku didn’t know was training until he drank the sacred tap water was a lot of fun.
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Always the one with Roshi. It's the longest of the training arcs*, focuses on the fundamentals and the mentality of training and fighting, and it's supplemented with the blossoming of Goku and Krillin's friendship.
I also liked Goku and Gohan's trianing in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber because it's the first time in a LONG time that we get to see Goku act like a father to Gohan.
*I don't directly count the Kami training because that tends to be a "Lesson Excursion of the Week" format.
I also liked Goku and Gohan's trianing in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber because it's the first time in a LONG time that we get to see Goku act like a father to Gohan.
*I don't directly count the Kami training because that tends to be a "Lesson Excursion of the Week" format.
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Probably King kai training for the Saiyans. Snake Way, Bubbles, and the Spirit Bomb were all so cool. I love the Otherworld in the Dragon Verse and this is part of that
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Not so much a favorite training as a favorite training moment. When Goku is training under Roshi and he's getting sick of delivering milkcrates, Roshi casually mentions that Gohan did the exact same training decades ago. It's just a really sweet moment of which there aren't many involving Goku.
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Goku and Krillin training, hands down. It’s not only the longest one - as it lasts for an entire arc (in fact I would say the 21st Budokai Tenkaichi is a long training arc) but it’s the foundation of Dragon Ball. It sets up what the serie is about, and shapes up Goku’s mentality as martial artist.
I love all the teachings from Kame Sennin, he’s definitely the best Dragon Ball master.
And I love the master-student dynamics, but also the student-student ones. The way the training is structured is also a lot of fun, and I will never not love to see Goku finally moving the rock or the moment when Goku and Krillin jump up in the sky and realize the progress they have made.
I love all the teachings from Kame Sennin, he’s definitely the best Dragon Ball master.
And I love the master-student dynamics, but also the student-student ones. The way the training is structured is also a lot of fun, and I will never not love to see Goku finally moving the rock or the moment when Goku and Krillin jump up in the sky and realize the progress they have made.
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Goku and Kuririn training before the 21st Tenkaichi. Always.
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Goku and Krillin's tutelage under Roshi will always remain my favourite training arc. It hits all of the right notes of balancing the whimsical tone of story, while also taking the training itself seriously enough that it doesn't make all of the hard work and effort seem like a waste of time, AND it beautifully lays down the foundation for Goku and Krillin's friendship. It isn't anything mind-blowing or innovate, it's simply a basic premise that's executed with enough subtlety and with enough of earnest attitude to make it stand out and have damn near infinite re-watch value.
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I’m always torn between Goku and Kuririn training with Muten Roshi and the training leading up to the fight against Vegeta and Nappa. I found Goku and Kuririn’s training to be entertaining as hell and it has a great payoff. But I’m also a little bias towards the Saipan Saga training period because as a kid I found it fascinating that all of these crazy strong people had to train and even the kid had to learn from scratch. Not only that, in the end they technically didn’t even win. But they eventually found an ally.
I should also give a special shout out to all of the training done at Karin’s Tower since he and Yajirobe are two of my favorite characters.
I should also give a special shout out to all of the training done at Karin’s Tower since he and Yajirobe are two of my favorite characters.
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I think it has a deeper long-term meaning as well because. While the first arc introduces the basic story premise that would be expanded upon with the RRA arc, you could argue than the 21st TB establishes the thematic premises. Always training, meeting stronger, surprising people, never taking your lot in the world for granted, and every encounter having something unexpected to learn. And of course for Goku himself where he discovers this passion that will direct the rest of his life, having a huge bearing on where the story will take him and how he approaches it.Lord Beerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:13 am Goku and Krillin's tutelage under Roshi will always remain my favourite training arc. It hits all of the right notes of balancing the whimsical tone of story, while also taking the training itself seriously enough that it doesn't make all of the hard work and effort seem like a waste of time, AND it beautifully lays down the foundation for Goku and Krillin's friendship. It isn't anything mind-blowing or innovate, it's simply a basic premise that's executed with enough subtlety and with enough of earnest attitude to make it stand out and have damn near infinite re-watch value.
I had to chuckle here given that Yajirobe wouldn't start squatting at his tower until he took Goku to Korin's in the Daimao arc!
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I just love that Karin never asked him to leave so just decided to live there. One of my favorite things about Toriyama is his impeccable ability to create such odd groups of characters that all have such great chemistry.I had to chuckle here given that Yajirobe wouldn't start squatting at his tower until he took Goku to Korin's in the Daimao arc!
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I enjoyed Roshi's milk training in particular
Also, the whole ROSAT training. It's mysterious, yet super effective. It's physics such as gravity 10X, temperature fluctuatinin above 40 degrees to -40 degree or sumthin seems perfectly capable to turn even an infant into a monster coming outta dat chamber
Though off-screen, really wonder just what kinda Otherworld training Goku would've done to be able to unlock SSJ3. I'd dig that
Also, the whole ROSAT training. It's mysterious, yet super effective. It's physics such as gravity 10X, temperature fluctuatinin above 40 degrees to -40 degree or sumthin seems perfectly capable to turn even an infant into a monster coming outta dat chamber
Though off-screen, really wonder just what kinda Otherworld training Goku would've done to be able to unlock SSJ3. I'd dig that
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Great comment.KBABZ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:13 pmI think it has a deeper long-term meaning as well because. While the first arc introduces the basic story premise that would be expanded upon with the RRA arc, you could argue than the 21st TB establishes the thematic premises. Always training, meeting stronger, surprising people, never taking your lot in the world for granted, and every encounter having something unexpected to learn. And of course for Goku himself where he discovers this passion that will direct the rest of his life, having a huge bearing on where the story will take him and how he approaches it.Lord Beerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:13 am Goku and Krillin's tutelage under Roshi will always remain my favourite training arc. It hits all of the right notes of balancing the whimsical tone of story, while also taking the training itself seriously enough that it doesn't make all of the hard work and effort seem like a waste of time, AND it beautifully lays down the foundation for Goku and Krillin's friendship. It isn't anything mind-blowing or innovate, it's simply a basic premise that's executed with enough subtlety and with enough of earnest attitude to make it stand out and have damn near infinite re-watch value.
I absolutely see how the structure of the narrative for that training arc could have been used as the framework for the themes of Dragon Ball's later arcs.
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It is! I'm not sure how conscious Toriyama was of this when writing, but it's notable to me that starting with Piccolo and through to Cell, pretty much all of the villains big and small have this arrogant streak where they assume they can never be bested (especially by someone they've defeated/measured with a Scouter before).Lord Beerus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:20 pm Great comment.
I absolutely see how the structure of the narrative for that training arc could have been used as the framework for the themes of Dragon Ball's later arcs.
Frieza in particular is defeated because he cannot accept that anyone could possibly match him, the strongest being for all of his known life, and Goku directly points this out as he leaves. I always felt that the reasoning for Golden Frieza, that he never trained a day in his damn life, actually funnels into this moment and makes it even better because it all goes back to Roshi's lesson at the 21st TB.
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I really liked King Kai's training, he was pretty funny and him and Goku played off one another quite nicely.
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It's impossible for me to quantify it, and I don't know if it's my favorite, but I have a special place in my heart for Gohan's training, especially with the filler episodes. We get to see Gohan make slow but steady progress from a crybaby to competent fighter.
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It might not be as significant as some of the other arcs, but I really enjoy the few episodes that involve Gohan training Videl and Goten in ki control and flight prior to the 25th Budokai. It's a great look into Gohan's character as he shows intelligence and patience as a teacher, and shows how he and Videl have a natural respect and chemistry with each other which makes their later relationship believable. It's the first time we really see Gohan's potential as a mentor that we unfortunately never really get much of again due to how quickly the Boo arc derails.