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Elements of DB that look dated

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:21 am

When something is dated, it can’t necessarily be for better or worse, it is what it is. So you can either talk about how awesome or awkward something looks in DB or you can be on the fence about it.

These are things I’m split on, though if you push me I’d be supportive.

Goku an idiot – Nowadays people prefer their heroes to be more competent and sensible (though Goku being dim through Toriyama’s writing skill is what makes DB unique and an action comedy).

Master Roshi – the whole “dirty old pervert” thing is a little more uncomfortable in current times (though I do enjoy that joke and feel it needs to be done well)

The story’s loose tone – People nowadays feel an action tale should involve tighter continuity with more serious world-building and characters more involved in the narrative, eg ONE PIECE and GINTAMA.

The females retiring and settling down – it was their choice and generally the DB women are more sensible than the men, but nowadays ladies can manage their career and family life with equal balance.


Does anyone else have any opinion on anything about DB that feels dated?
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Goku an idiot – Nowadays people prefer their heroes to be more competent and sensible (though Goku being dim through Toriyama’s writing skill is what makes DB unique and an action comedy).
Oh please, Goku was always a competent hero. You'd have to change his entire jungle boy origins for him to be "smarter" but that's not the point of his character.

As for Master Roshi it can work both ways, sometimes it's boring and overdone, but that's also the type of his character. And the oldman overcoming his lust made for a cool moment in ToP, even if for a brief while.

I can agree however that Chichi/Videl could try fighting sometime again, even if some minor henchmen. RoF was the perfect opportunity for that, but alas. Bulma also could and should make herself a mecha :lol:

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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by Shaddy » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:05 am

There's nothing dated about Goku being dumb. The series has gotten worse at the way it portrays his dumbness, but that's a character writing problem, not the age of the trope. I'd wager a massive portion of all media still relies on the idiot hero trope. I mean, you brought up One Piece. Luffy in many ways is very similar to Goku, and that's still one of the best selling comics in existence.

Similarly, Roshi's pervertedness isn't an inherent problem, it's mostly about framing. If he were just a creepy gross dude that made weird comics and read porn in public, you could liken him to a ton of characters with no real problems surrounding them. The difference is that he serially gropes and peeps on women, and in Super is even implied to literally be an attempted rapist, and he's also a character we're expected to unconditionally love. He's shown performing amazing feats of strength and offering profound wisdoms to the heroes, while the sexual assault of his character is played off as mostly harmless, something to be made of a gag where some girl punches him and that's the whole joke. No repercussions, no discussion, that's it. As for the idea of this being "dated", this trope is sadly still all-too-common in anime and manga. It's more that if it were coming from an American mainstream property, it would have far more coverage, more people upset about it, and more of a stigma toward the creators. The way public criticism and especially discussion of gendered violence works in Japan is simply such that criticizing Dragon Ball for having Roshi molest people would be viewed like criticizing Homer Simpson for saying "d'oh!". That's on the part of people in power, mind you, not the general public. There's a weird misconception in anime communities that fetishizes Japan by saying "SJWs and feminists don't exist there!", which is very much not true. The situation is just worse in many ways.

I'm not sure I agree with your comments about tone. Dragon Ball's continuity is a mess, but that's a timeless issue. There are series that have serious problems with it now, and there were ones that did it perfectly fine back when DB was new. People's priorities as well. The most you can say is that cinemasins-style "every subjective flaw I can point out is a disastrous plot hole and by listing all of them with a big number on the end" criticism has taken off, such that believing that airtight continuity and overexplaining everything to the viewer is more important than, like, having fun.

The women - like with before, a lot of this has to do with Japanese conservative gender politics, but this is also a Toriyama-centric decision. Every major lady in Z is eventually reduced to wife and/or baby-make for the cast. Hell, the few girl children any of them have are the only ones that never fight, even in GT if I recall correctly. Toriyama didn't have to write it that way. There were and still are plenty of manga with strong female fighters who stay relevant to the story. My Hero Academia is a great recent example, though bits and pieces of the Shonen Jump big 3 (Naruto, One Piece and Bleach), while still noticably less focused on the women than the men, did this better than Dragon Ball over twenty years ago.

That said, if Dragon Ball were made today, it's hard to comprehend what the series would even look like to judge whether it would be different. You'd probably have a harder time getting away with things like Mr. Popo's design, but Super stands out as a weird thing in that it pays respect to many horrible things in DB as a matter of tradition, such that the landscape of anime as a whole would be so different without DB that it'd be hard to figure out what trends it might follow instead.

If I personally made Dragon Ball, I'd change a lot of things. On the simple subject of shit that feels uncomfortable, I'd go with making Roshi less sex-offender and more of a passive sleaze, probably get rid of the blackface stuff, and let specifically 18 and Videl do more stuff. I don't say Bulma or Chi-Chi because they never showed a real interest in fighting. Bulma is the only character whose managed to be consistently useful outside of battle, and that's a good place for her. I actually really like Bulma in Super. Chi-Chi only ever seemed to want to be part of battles to get to Goku in the tournament, and the whole Wedding Dress filler stuff, while super-uncomfortable in the "let me teach you how to wife properly" episode, does infact fit her role pretty well. On the other hand, 18 and Videl don't have these restrictions. They like fighting (or at least view it as necessary), same as the men. I'm okay with 18 and Krillin hooking up, but I'd actually not give them a kid. Not that I hate Marin or anything (how could I? she has no role in the story), I just like when Dragon Ball keeps a higher active cast and taking care of children puts a damper on that. I've been saying for a while now that I really wish the Buu arc was about Gohan, Videl, Goten and Trunks taking on a new threat together, with the adults mostly in the background. Part of this is the whole "torch-passing" thing that got completely dropped, but I also think even if Toriyama isn't going to write romance, simply having two characters with mutual attraction saving each other in fights and being an action couple does wonders for selling you on their relationship. Obviously I'd want the series to keep continuity with itself, but I actually care less about that, when breaking continuity, if it doesn't destroy the themes and characters, creates a more interesting narrative.
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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by Matches Malone » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:38 am

DragonBallFoodie wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:21 am
1- Goku an idiot – Nowadays people prefer their heroes to be more competent and sensible.

2- Master Roshi – the whole “dirty old pervert” thing is a little more uncomfortable in current times.

3- The story’s loose tone – People nowadays feel an action tale should involve tighter continuity with more serious world-building and characters more involved in the narrative.

4- The females retiring and settling down.
1- Goku in the original manga (apart from the first 2 arcs) is just as intelligent as anyone else in the group. This whole Goku being an idiot direction is more or less a modern thing.

2- I'm definitely not a fan of the old pervert in anime , but I don't know if I'd call it outdated considering it's still done to this very day in both DB and other anime/manga.

3- I personally love the way Toriyama handled the original manga, but I agree that there's a number of fans who wish it was more in line with what came after it.

4- To be fair, this also included the males as well. Toriyama's had a clear issue from the very start with keeping characters relevant as the story went on. Goku, Vegeta, & Gohan were the only 3 to remain relevant from their introduction until the story's conclusion.
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Luffy in many ways is very similar to Goku, and that's still one of the best selling comics in existence.
They're similar in that they're laid back and easy going characters, but they're not idiots. This is what Super's anime writers didn't understand, they made Goku a complete moron as a way of copying Luffy, when Luffy is anything but that.

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Post by ABED » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:06 am

Goku is an idiot and no people today don't prefer smarter heroes. People have always been drawn to characters who are good at what they do, and Goku is great at fighting.

Roshi's perversion is very dated as is much of the sexual humor. Dirty jokes aren't a problem but I do think Roshi being an attempted rapist is flat out wrong. It's fine that he is horny all the time but no character should feel unsafe around him.
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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by KBABZ » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:26 am

A lot of the technology from the Classic Era were modern for their time but look very dated today. Personally, I think in a GOOD way; it gives Earth's technology a very "Cassette Punk" look that's completely unique compared to other anime.

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Post by MasenkoHA » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:40 am

I don’t know how Goku being an idiot is dated when that archetype seems to still be thriving in Shonen anime (Naruto, Satoshi, and Luffy immediately come to mind) the fact shonen artist are still ripping Goku’s basic archetype (without understanding why it made sense for Goku to be none too bright and a big eater) is a big indicator it’s not dated.

Elements that are dated:

Roshi: from his sexual perversion extending to sexual harassment to even him getting off on jazzercise videos

The treatment of General Blue’s homosexuality from the characters saying things like “yikes he’s gay” to “you flaming homo” and equivalencing homosexuality to pedophilia

The overt sexualization of Bulma as a teenager. Actually it’s weird/gross that Bulma was most sexualized when she was a minor. Like it pretty much stopped as soon as she turned 19.

The Shunsuke Kikuchi score. I adore it and it’s a big part of the show’s identity as a throwback to Shaw Brothers kung fu movies but it’s not surprising Toei went the modern route with Kai and Super. A lot of the music also sounds distinctively 80s (like a decent amount of the insert songs in the original Dragon Ball) unlike the above dated doesn’t mean “cringe now” but just a reminder this series was made in the 80s

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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:10 am

Yeah, yikes. Mister Popo and General Blue need to be completely redone in new productions.
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Master Roshi – the whole “dirty old pervert” thing is a little more uncomfortable in current times (though I do enjoy that joke and feel it needs to be done well)
It was uncomfortable back then, too. The changing of the times has nothing to do with it: the Muten Roushi being an openly horny pervert for minors in a comic aimed at minors is a terrible choice.
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The females retiring and settling down – it was their choice and generally the DB women are more sensible than the men, but nowadays ladies can manage their career and family life with equal balance.
Whose choice was it? The choice of fictional characters? No, it was Toriyama Akira's choice because he and JUMP are a bunch of Boy's Club bullshit man-children. I'd be a lot less inclined to give a damn if this wasn't a comic aimed at kids or a wide audience but Dragon Ball is a comic aimed at kids and a wide audience. The work needs to not have bullshit conservative politics.
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Similarly, Roshi's pervertedness isn't an inherent problem, it's mostly about framing. If he were just a creepy gross dude that made weird comics and read porn in public, you could liken him to a ton of characters with no real problems surrounding them. The difference is that he serially gropes and peeps on women, and in Super is even implied to literally be an attempted rapist, and he's also a character we're expected to unconditionally love. He's shown performing amazing feats of strength and offering profound wisdoms to the heroes, while the sexual assault of his character is played off as mostly harmless, something to be made of a gag where some girl punches him and that's the whole joke. No repercussions, no discussion, that's it. As for the idea of this being "dated", this trope is sadly still all-too-common in anime and manga. It's more that if it were coming from an American mainstream property, it would have far more coverage, more people upset about it, and more of a stigma toward the creators. The way public criticism and especially discussion of gendered violence works in Japan is simply such that criticizing Dragon Ball for having Roshi molest people would be viewed like criticizing Homer Simpson for saying "d'oh!". That's on the part of people in power, mind you, not the general public. There's a weird misconception in anime communities that fetishizes Japan by saying "SJWs and feminists don't exist there!", which is very much not true. The situation is just worse in many ways.
The issue stems from western, English-speaking fandom being completely oblivious to the fact that they're mixing together their fandoms for children's series with their fandoms of Otaku-aimed series. Dragon Ball is aimed at kids, some other series they might be consuming is off aimed at Otaku (whom are all adults). Now you have a generation of dumbass cis men (typically white) who outwardly identify as heterosexual running around being defensive because they are still just immature children living in this artificially created sense of survival mode because of women and minorities gaining ground and visibility in fandom through the internet. This is where the hatred of 'SJWs' and 'feminists' come from. Of course, in their lack of critical thinking skills none of them recognize the fact that 'SJWs' and 'feminists' have existed since the white supremacist patriarchy as a countermovement. Nor, humorously enough, are these dipshits who proudly wear their ahegao hoodies in public aware of the fact that SJWs and feminists are a 100,000% more horny that they are...we just don't run around in public with their asses hanging out about it.

(Not that I haven't made ten million mistakes in the past myself. I've at least learned to have some fucking shame about it).
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The women - like with before, a lot of this has to do with Japanese conservative gender politics, but this is also a Toriyama-centric decision. Every major lady in Z is eventually reduced to wife and/or baby-make for the cast. Hell, the few girl children any of them have are the only ones that never fight, even in GT if I recall correctly. Toriyama didn't have to write it that way. There were and still are plenty of manga with strong female fighters who stay relevant to the story. My Hero Academia is a great recent example, though bits and pieces of the Shonen Jump big 3 (Naruto, One Piece and Bleach), while still noticably less focused on the women than the men, did this better than Dragon Ball over twenty years ago.
The girls are less-and-less focused on in Boku no Hero Academia has the series progresses. The main character arcs all belong to men so when the comic has to reach a fever-pitch the girls fall to the wayside. It's still pretty much the same bullshit as other JUMP titles. With One Piece the series has become increasingly conservative over the years. Whatever glimpses I take at the series are always the same: women helpless or not taking center stage. Don't even get me started on how it treats queer characters. Yikes! With Bleach it still had an issue of the major battles going exclusively towards men but Kubo Tite did at least include more female side characters, including a trans girl...whom Yumichika treats like shit. :| Fuck Yumichika. The spin-off series Burn the Witch has two women as the main characters so I'm curious to see how that pans out.
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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by Planetnamek » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:29 am

Yeah the Roshi thing definitely strikes me as the most dated part, that's the one instance where I don't fault Saban for forcing Funi to censor something as I wouldn't want kids to see that and think that sort of thing is funny and harmless. I didn't like when Sailor Moon pulled that crap with Raye's grandfather either and i'm eternally grateful that DiC removed that aspect entirely as I feel it makes him a much better character.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:40 am

JulieYBM wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:10 am
Yeah, yikes. Mister Popo and General Blue need to be completely redone in new productions.
DragonBallFoodie wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:21 am
Master Roshi – the whole “dirty old pervert” thing is a little more uncomfortable in current times (though I do enjoy that joke and feel it needs to be done well)
It was uncomfortable back then, too. The changing of the times has nothing to do with it: the Muten Roushi being an openly horny pervert for minors in a comic aimed at minors is a terrible choice.
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The females retiring and settling down – it was their choice and generally the DB women are more sensible than the men, but nowadays ladies can manage their career and family life with equal balance.
Whose choice was it? The choice of fictional characters? No, it was Toriyama Akira's choice because he and JUMP are a bunch of Boy's Club bullshit man-children. I'd be a lot less inclined to give a damn if this wasn't a comic aimed at kids or a wide audience but Dragon Ball is a comic aimed at kids and a wide audience. The work needs to not have bullshit conservative politics.
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Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:05 am
Similarly, Roshi's pervertedness isn't an inherent problem, it's mostly about framing. If he were just a creepy gross dude that made weird comics and read porn in public, you could liken him to a ton of characters with no real problems surrounding them. The difference is that he serially gropes and peeps on women, and in Super is even implied to literally be an attempted rapist, and he's also a character we're expected to unconditionally love. He's shown performing amazing feats of strength and offering profound wisdoms to the heroes, while the sexual assault of his character is played off as mostly harmless, something to be made of a gag where some girl punches him and that's the whole joke. No repercussions, no discussion, that's it. As for the idea of this being "dated", this trope is sadly still all-too-common in anime and manga. It's more that if it were coming from an American mainstream property, it would have far more coverage, more people upset about it, and more of a stigma toward the creators. The way public criticism and especially discussion of gendered violence works in Japan is simply such that criticizing Dragon Ball for having Roshi molest people would be viewed like criticizing Homer Simpson for saying "d'oh!". That's on the part of people in power, mind you, not the general public. There's a weird misconception in anime communities that fetishizes Japan by saying "SJWs and feminists don't exist there!", which is very much not true. The situation is just worse in many ways.
The issue stems from western, English-speaking fandom being completely oblivious to the fact that they're mixing together their fandoms for children's series with their fandoms of Otaku-aimed series. Dragon Ball is aimed at kids, some other series they might be consuming is off aimed at Otaku (whom are all adults). Now you have a generation of dumbass cis men (typically white) who outwardly identify as heterosexual running around being defensive because they are still just immature children living in this artificially created sense of survival mode because of women and minorities gaining ground and visibility in fandom through the internet. This is where the hatred of 'SJWs' and 'feminists' come from. Of course, in their lack of critical thinking skills none of them recognize the fact that 'SJWs' and 'feminists' have existed since the white supremacist patriarchy as a countermovement. Nor, humorously enough, are these dipshits who proudly wear their ahegao hoodies in public aware of the fact that SJWs and feminists are a 100,000% more horny that they are...we just don't run around in public with their asses hanging out about it.

(Not that I haven't made ten million mistakes in the past myself. I've at least learned to have some fucking shame about it).
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The women - like with before, a lot of this has to do with Japanese conservative gender politics, but this is also a Toriyama-centric decision. Every major lady in Z is eventually reduced to wife and/or baby-make for the cast. Hell, the few girl children any of them have are the only ones that never fight, even in GT if I recall correctly. Toriyama didn't have to write it that way. There were and still are plenty of manga with strong female fighters who stay relevant to the story. My Hero Academia is a great recent example, though bits and pieces of the Shonen Jump big 3 (Naruto, One Piece and Bleach), while still noticably less focused on the women than the men, did this better than Dragon Ball over twenty years ago.
The girls are less-and-less focused on in Boku no Hero Academia has the series progresses. The main character arcs all belong to men so when the comic has to reach a fever-pitch the girls fall to the wayside. It's still pretty much the same bullshit as other JUMP titles. With One Piece the series has become increasingly conservative over the years. Whatever glimpses I take at the series are always the same: women helpless or not taking center stage. Don't even get me started on how it treats queer characters. Yikes! With Bleach it still had an issue of the major battles going exclusively towards men but Kubo Tite did at least include more female side characters, including a trans girl...whom Yumichika treats like shit. :| Fuck Yumichika. The spin-off series Burn the Witch has two women as the main characters so I'm curious to see how that pans out.
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It's ill-fitting for me. Dragon Ball is not a bedtime story. And "laid-back old man" is not how I would describe Yanami's narrator. To me he sounds like the kind of uncle that shows up to the birthday party with loads of fruit punch soda and stuffs himself with pizza and ice cream, or takes you out on his boat at the lake in the summer and goes skinny dipping or something.
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19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same. :lol:

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Post by coola » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:07 am

- There is difference between lovable idiot, and downright dumbass/retard, and Super Goku is mostly portray as.
- Old pervert trope is around even in modern anime, but i agree, you shouldn't cross line and make them rapist. For me, to this day, Happosai from Ranma 1/2 anime is worst example of trope, and i know that was whole point of his character, and viewers were supposed to hate him (Haven't read manga)
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Dunno, I've seen no scenes with this character. Doesn't change Oda's previous handling of trans characters, let alone women in general.
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Post by AlexSketchy04 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:00 pm

Probably Mr Popo and Roshi being horny towards women (of any age)

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Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:28 pm

AlexSketchy04 wrote:
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Probably Mr Popo .....being horny towards women (of any age)
Did we watch the same show?

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Post by Demon Prince Piccolo » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:09 pm

Reading the manga right now, and honestly I don't see Goku as an idiot at all. Considering that he grew up largely in the wilderness, alone, with almost no societal upbringing, he's actually quite bright. His "dumb" moments are a reflection of his lack of real upbringing, not of him being inherently stupid. When he learns something, it tends to stick with him. Fighting is where he shows just how "studious" he can be, and he becomes wiser over time as far as understanding compassion and the value of life. You can see a real maturity in him starting with the Tao Pai Pai stuff going through the Freeza arc especially. Super portrays him as way dumber than anything before, so if anything Super feels more dated in its depiction of Goku than DB/Z/GT.

The Roshi pervy stuff...I admit it makes me laugh sometimes, but idk if I would say it's dated so much as just gross. Mr Popo's appearance, Killah, General Black's appearance (his character is actually presented as competent/intelligent)...yeah....

I agree with an earlier point someone made about Bulma being more sexualized as a teenager than when she became an adult. Just a bizarre all-around decision that also feels gross.

I also agree about the Kikuchi score and insert songs being dated, but that's by default as a good chunk of them were 80s/early 90s. That's no something I take issue with as I love them, but by today's standards it definitely feels dated.

I would say that the filler also feels dated, since a lot of modern anime has minimal filler compared to older anime (at least in my experience; I admit I haven't watched a ton of anime and need to watch more to see if that's truly accurate). When I say "filler," I'm not talking small filler moments but rather full episodes/arcs.
Training myself to drop the "Z" when referring to the adult portion of Goku's story from Toriyama's original manga. The story, from the moment Goku met Bulma through Goku flying away with Uub, is all DRAGON BALL.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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MasenkoHA wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:28 pm
AlexSketchy04 wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:00 pm
Probably Mr Popo .....being horny towards women (of any age)
Did we watch the same show?
Unless we are talking from different dimensions, yes

I'm just saying it because of that kind of stuff doesn't fly today

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AlexSketchy04 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:57 pm
MasenkoHA wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:28 pm
AlexSketchy04 wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:00 pm
Probably Mr Popo .....being horny towards women (of any age)
Did we watch the same show?
Unless we are talking from different dimensions, yes

I'm just saying it because of that kind of stuff doesn't fly today

When was Mr.Popo ever horny towards women? Ever?

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MasenkoHA wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:58 pm
AlexSketchy04 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:57 pm
MasenkoHA wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:28 pm


Did we watch the same show?
Unless we are talking from different dimensions, yes

I'm just saying it because of that kind of stuff doesn't fly today

When was Mr.Popo ever horny towards women? Ever?
I was referring to Roshi, XD, i mentioned Popo because of his design

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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by AlexSketchy04 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:22 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:10 am
Yeah, yikes. Mister Popo and General Blue need to be completely redone in new productions.
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Re: Elements of DB that look dated

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:52 pm

Should I be feeling bad that I think that edit is awesome.
MyVisionity wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:52 pm
It's ill-fitting for me. Dragon Ball is not a bedtime story. And "laid-back old man" is not how I would describe Yanami's narrator. To me he sounds like the kind of uncle that shows up to the birthday party with loads of fruit punch soda and stuffs himself with pizza and ice cream, or takes you out on his boat at the lake in the summer and goes skinny dipping or something.
90sDBZ wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm
19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same. :lol:

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