Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs. UPDATE: The results

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Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs. UPDATE: The results

Post by Matches Malone » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:40 am

Now that the Moro arc has (mostly) concluded, how would you rank it compared to all the other arcs in the franchise ? The arcs can be ranked as follows: S= 5 points, A= 4 points, B= 3 points, C= 2 points, D= 1 point, & F = 0 points. The "voting" will last for 2 weeks, with the rankings being calculated on January 1st.

My rankings are:

S: Saiyan arc / Namek arc
A: 22nd Tenkaichi arc / Android arc / Buu arc
B: King Piccolo arc / 23rd Tenkaichi arc
C: Pilaf arc / 21st Tenkaichi arc / Red Ribbon Army arc / Moro arc
D: Baby arc / Shadow Dragons arc / Champa arc / Zamasu arc
F: Super 17 arc / Beers arc / Golden Freeza arc / TOP arc

The BOG and RF movies were part of a movie tournament a few months ago so they don't qualify, same goes for Broly.

UPDATE:

Based on 20 overall votes, 20 for Z, 19 for DB, 18 for Super, & 16 for GT, these are the final results of this fair arc election:

The number one arc with an outstanding 92 points is:
The number two arc with 87 points is:
The number three arc with 81 points is:
Tied for last place with a very pathetic 8 points are:
The rankings for every other arc:
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by MasenkoHA » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:07 pm

I don’t feel like ranking anything from Super

S: Piccolo Daimao, 23rd Budokai, Saiyan
A: 21st Budokai, Red Ribbon, 22nd Budokai, Boo
B: Namek, Cyborg
C: Pilaf, Garlic Jr, Baby
D: Black Star, Shadow Dragon
F: Super 17

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Yuji » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:26 pm

Based on the manga interpretation of the Super arcs, with the exception of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F (I use the anime, since the movies aren't eligible):

S: Saiyan / Namek / 23rd Budokai
A: Red Ribbon Army / 22nd Budokai / Majin Buu
B: Artificial Humans / 21st Budokai / Piccolo Daimao
C: Pilaf / Future Trunks / Baby
D: Tournament of Power / Champa / Moro
E: Shadow Dragons / Battle of Gods
F: Black Star Dragon Balls / Super 17 / Resurrection F

Broly would go in D, the Battle of Gods movie would go in C or even B. As for the anime versions, the Champa and future Trunks arcs would stay in the same rank, but the Tournament of Power would be bumped down to E or F.

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by KBABZ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:42 pm

Didn't come prepared to grade them all. Red Ribbon Army will forever be the best as it encapsulates what I enjoy and think of the most when it comes to Dragon Ball. The fun, the adventure, the heart, the travel, Kid Goku being the throughline character, all that stuff.

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Soppa Saia People » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:57 pm

oh cool, i did a similar thing just a little over 5 years ago, though i think my voting period was like a week cus i was a impatient 13 year old, lol.

anyway can't comment on super but here you go

S : saiyan and 22nd budokai
A : hunt for the dragon balls and 21st budokai
B : freeza arc, red ribbon arc and piccolo daimao arc
C : 23rd budokai and boo arc
D : cell arc, baby arc and shadow dragon arc
F : Super 17 arc and black star db arc

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Post by PurestEvil » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:58 pm

S: 22 TB, 23 TB, Freeza/Namek
A: King Piccolo, Saiyan, 21 TB
B: Red Ribbon, Pilaf, Androids, Fortuneteller Baba, Saiyaman
C: Baby, Cell, ToP
D: U6 tournament, Buu, Shadow Dragons, Zamasu, BoG
F: Black Star Balls, Super 17, RoF

I have not read the manga, but from what I could make out, I expect to find the Moro arc to be around a C or D.

EDIT: I switched up the Cell arc with U6 arc ToP
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by TrunksTrevelyan0064 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:51 pm

Super and GT are not very fresh in my mind, so their ratings may be off, especially since I haven't read the Super manga (except for the second half of the Moro arc). From what I've heard, it's more coherent compared to the anime's haphazard nature, so if I did read the Super manga some of its arcs might move from C to B. But for now, this is where they stand:

Original
S: 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai; 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai; Namek/Freeza; Red Ribbon Army; Saiyans
A: Piccolo Daimao; 21st Tenkaichi Budokai; Androids/Cell; Majin Boo
B: Dragon Ball Hunt

Super
C: Moro; Zamasu; Tournament of Power; Battle of Gods; Universe 6
D: Resurrection F

GT
C: Black Star Dragon Balls; Baby; Shadow Dragons
D: Super 17
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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:51 pm

S: Saiyans, Namek, Tournament of Power
A: Androids, 23ed Tenkaichi Budokai, Zamasu
B: 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, Red Ribbon Army, Battle of Gods arc,
C: Majin Boo, First Hunt for the Dragon Balls, Piccolo Daimao, Shadow Dragons, Universe 6,
D: Golden Freeza, Black Star Dragon Balls, Baby
F: Super 17

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:33 pm

From favorite to least-favorite:

1 ) 23rd Tournament
2 ) Saiyan
3 ) Namek
4 ) Buu
5 ) King Piccolo
6 ) Red Ribbon
7 ) 22nd Tournament
8 ) BoG
9 ) Cell
10 ) Goku Black
11 ) 21st Tournament
12 ) Search for the DB's
13 ) Uranai Baba
14 ) Champa
15 ) ToP
16 ) Return of Freeza (DBS)
17 ) Evil Dragons (GT)
18 ) First arc of GT (search for & Bebi)
19 ) Moro
20 ) Super 17

It's easy to rank a favorite, way more difficult to rank a least-favorite. Goku Black would be higher if it wasn't for that (imo) awful ending because I really did enjoy the first part of that arc a lot.
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Post by Robo4900 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:46 pm

S: 21st Tenkaichi, 22nd Tenkaichi, Piccolo Daimao, 23rd Tenkaichi, Great Saiyaman
A: Red Ribbon, Namek/Freeza, Boo
B: Pilaf, Saiyan, Artificial Humans/Cell, Afterlife Tournament, Evil Dragons, post-Black filler
C: Solo Training, Heavenly Training, Dark Dragon Balls, Baby, Super 17, Battle of Gods
D: Wedding Dress, Garlic Jr., Resurrection F, U6 Tournament
F: Potaeufeu, Black, Tournament of Power, Moro

The placements within the ranks are chronological by release order.
S and A are great, B is very good, C is a flawed pass, D is pretty dire but watchable (even if only just), F is "I never want to watch this shit again in my life."
If we included the new Broly movie, I'd give it an A rank.

GT arcs are highlighted in red, Super ones in orange, filler is highlighted in green.
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:18 am

Apart from 2 arcs, the original manga's arcs have received points within the 30s and 40s. Super and GT are in the basement, with the highest receiving 13 points, and the lowest receiving 3. I can't wait to see how this continues to play out. :clap:

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Post by DBPirate » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:23 am

S: Frieza, Zamasu, ToP
A: Android/Cell, Saiyan, 22nd Tenkaichi
B: Majin Buu, Piccolo, 23rd Tenkaichi, U6, Red Ribbon
C: 21st Tenkaichi, Battle of Gods, Pilaf
D: Resurrection F, Evil Buu

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by PurestEvil » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:08 am

Matches Malone wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:18 am
Apart from 2 arcs, the original manga's arcs have received points within the 30s and 40s. Super and GT are in the basement, with the highest receiving 13 points, and the lowest receiving 3. I can't wait to see how this continues to play out. :clap:
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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:21 am

PurestEvil wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:08 am
That's just the way of the world
To give you an idea, the Saiyan arc alone has nearly as many points as all of GT and Super's points combined.

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Post by SupremeKai25 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:56 am

I'll just do Z and Super because they are the freshest in my mind and so I can form a more concrete judgement:

S: Future Trunks arc
A: Tournament of Power arc, Androids arc, Namek arc, Saiyan arc
B: Majin Buu arc
C: Universe 6 arc
D: BoG arc, RoF arc
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Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:52 am

Mine would be:

S: King Piccolo, Buu, Baby
A: Red Ribbon Army, Saiyan, Black Star Dragon Balls, Shadow Dragons
B: Pilaf, 23rd Tenkaichi, Frieza
C: 21st Tenkaichi, 22nd Tenkaichi, Cell, Super 17
D: BoG, U6 tournament, Moro
F: RoF, Zamasu, ToP
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Robo4900 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm

How are you going to deal with the two posters so far who haven't ranked GT's arcs due to unfamiliarity?

Giving GT's arcs zero points from them would arguably screw the ranking up by assuming these posters ranked all of GT's arcs as an F, creating a potential bias against it and in favour of Super's arcs that shouldn't exist, since these two voters don't have an opinion to offer on GT.

Perhaps you could calculate the average ranking for each GT arc and give them their average for each person who didn't rank them? (That is to say, take the mean of each GT arc's score as given by the people who did rank them, then add that mean to that arc's overall score for each person who didn't rank the GT arcs) That way GT's arcs' relative positions in the rankings remain essentially unchanged by these two voters.
This same method could be used if anyone comes in and doesn't rank Super's arcs (or indeed, if they only rank the manga arcs, or if there's a real weirdo who only ranks GT and/or Super :lol:)
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:41 pm

Robo4900 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm
How are you going to deal with the two posters so far who haven't ranked GT's arcs due to unfamiliarity?
KBABZ only ranked the RRA arc as his favorite, so that gets 5 from him while everything else 0. It's unfortunate that some won't rank either GT or Super, but it'd be too much trouble to make a special system for that. Marks are only given to arcs that are listed by each member, anything else will result in this fair and balanced arc election being questioned.

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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Robo4900 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:48 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:41 pm
Robo4900 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm
How are you going to deal with the two posters so far who haven't ranked GT's arcs due to unfamiliarity?
KBABZ only ranked the RRA arc as his favorite, so that gets 5 from him while everything else 0. It's unfortunate that some won't rank either GT or Super, but it'd be too much trouble to make a special system for that. Marks are only given to arcs that are listed by each member, anything else will result in this fair and balanced arc election being questioned.
But that's ridiculous.

The very act of giving the unranked arcs a zero mark makes this an unfair and unbalanced vote to be heavily questioned.

"I have no view" doesn't mean "I vote this as the worst thing ever", and yet you're equating these two distinct concepts. All this does is give Super an advantage in that two of the people who've voted so far haven't seen GT.

And it's not a complex or troublesome system. It would take no time at all to deal with it, and barely any mental energy.

Also, KBABZ only voting for RRA also arguably gives that arc an unfair advantage, so arguably his vote should be discounted. (Sorry KBABZ)
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Re: Kanzenshuu's favorite arcs.

Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:59 pm

Robo4900 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:14 pm
Perhaps you could calculate the average ranking for each GT arc and give them their average for each person who didn't rank them?
Do you mean if the Baby arc's average is a C I should also give it 2 other Cs for who didn't vote for it ? if that's what you mean then sure, that sounds good. I misunderstood you the first time. :oops:

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