The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

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The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Paulo Gabriel » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 am

I don't know if this should go in the ''In-Universe'' section or here, but there you go.

My question is pretty straightforward: as pointed out (as I remember anyways) by some members here in the past, how come Boo just ''accidentally'' happened to be sealed on Earth? Why just not any other planet? It seems very convenient for Toriyama (and for the story) for Boo to be on Earth. But it makes no sense, given that he was terrifying the ENTIRE universe back then. All other villains and general plot points in the series make some sort of sense, e. g., Freeza is a threat to the universe, Cell is on Earth because he was a creation of the Red Ribbon Army, etc. But Boo is just totally nonsensical. Again, why he is on Earth and not literally ANYWHERE ELSE?

Is there some explanation given, ''in-universe'' or in interviews by Toriyama, etc?

As always, what Kanzenshuuers think?

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:30 am

Well according to Super, there are very few planets in the universe with intelligent life, so the odds aren't really that against it.
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by KBABZ » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:22 am

Paulo Gabriel wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 am
I don't know if this should go in the ''In-Universe'' section or here, but there you go.

My question is pretty straightforward: as pointed out (as I remember anyways) by some members here in the past, how come Boo just ''accidentally'' happened to be sealed on Earth? Why just not any other planet? It seems very convenient for Toriyama (and for the story) for Boo to be on Earth. But it makes no sense, given that he was terrifying the ENTIRE universe back then. All other villains and general plot points in the series make some sort of sense, e. g., Freeza is a threat to the universe, Cell is on Earth because he was a creation of the Red Ribbon Army, etc. But Boo is just totally nonsensical. Again, why he is on Earth and not literally ANYWHERE ELSE?

Is there some explanation given, ''in-universe'' or in interviews by Toriyama, etc?

As always, what Kanzenshuuers think?
You can very easily argue this for Goku arriving on Earth or, more pertinently, Kami/Piccolo's ship heading there.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by SupremeKai25 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am

It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Matches Malone » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:28 am

Supreme Kai said this was due to humans only beginning to walk the earth, so there was never any risk of them awakening Buu.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Trachta10 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am
It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
and ironically the earth was the only planet in the universe that could stop Majin Buu

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:03 am

Trachta10 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am
It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
and ironically the earth was the only planet in the universe that could stop Majin Buu
They cleaned up the mess they started. Things could've been even worse when you consider just how many times Shin came close to death, which includes Beerus and Whis as a result.
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Anonymous Friend » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm

Trachta10 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am
It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
and ironically the earth was the only planet in the universe that could stop Majin Buu
Techincally, the Z Warriors made evrything worse by actiively allowing Buu to be awoken.

Any other sane group would have stopped Babidi and Dabura.
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Trachta10 » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm
Trachta10 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm
SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am
It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
and ironically the earth was the only planet in the universe that could stop Majin Buu
Techincally, the Z Warriors made evrything worse by actiively allowing Buu to be awoken.

Any other sane group would have stopped Babidi and Dabura.
Who else in the universe could stop Dabura?

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:13 pm

Trachta10 wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm
Anonymous Friend wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm
Trachta10 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:11 pm

and ironically the earth was the only planet in the universe that could stop Majin Buu
Techincally, the Z Warriors made evrything worse by actiively allowing Buu to be awoken.

Any other sane group would have stopped Babidi and Dabura.
Who else in the universe could stop Dabura?
Beerus
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Trachta10 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:18 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:13 pm
Trachta10 wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm
Anonymous Friend wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:07 pm


Techincally, the Z Warriors made evrything worse by actiively allowing Buu to be awoken.

Any other sane group would have stopped Babidi and Dabura.
Who else in the universe could stop Dabura?
Beerus
Whis
Broly
Moro
Dragon Ball Super did not exist at that time..

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:41 am

Trachta10 wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:18 am
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:13 pm
Trachta10 wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm

Who else in the universe could stop Dabura?
Beerus
Whis
Broly
Moro
Dragon Ball Super did not exist at that time..
I assumed you meant any characters that existed in the universe at that time...
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by MasenkoHA » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:26 am

Trachta10 wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:18 am
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:13 pm
Trachta10 wrote:
Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:48 pm

Who else in the universe could stop Dabura?
Beerus
Whis
Broly
Moro
Dragon Ball Super did not exist at that time..

Doesn’t matter when the discussion is about in-universe and not about the writing itself...

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Paulo Gabriel » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:38 am

SupremeKai25 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:54 am
It is probably because the Earth is a backwater wasteland secluded from the rest of the universe. This is mentioned many times. For example, the reason why Bardock sent Goku to Earth is because the Earth is not a valuable world, as its civilizations are not technologically advanced and its citizens are weak, and as a result the Earth didn't even show up on the maps of the Frieza Force (intergalactic empire that rules over 70% of the universe, mind you).

So the wizard Bibidi probably chose this planet as the hiding place of Majin Buu precisely because it is secluded from the major powers of the universe (including the Supreme Kai and Beerus), and at the same time is inhabited by weak and primitive creatures, meaning that no one would threaten the cocoon.

As Earth is the main location of the Dragon Ball franchise, where most of the main characters live, it might seem like an important world. But let's not forget that in-universe it is considered a backwater wasteland of no value. The perfect hiding spot for Majin Buu's cocoon.
That's actually a good explanation, thank you.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:49 am

I might be remembering this wrong, but I thought it was explained that Buu was hidden on Earth because it was remote, and at the time there was no intelligent life on Earth that might find him and wake him up.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:07 pm

Isn't everything convenient, though? Why was Goku sent to Earth? What are the odds that Goku would be sent to destroy a world that has people who look like him? Why did Gohan leave Goku of all people -- one of the strongest people in the world -- a Dragon Ball that set this whole story in motion?

I mean, it just goes on from there. You can say that most things that happened in the series were pure coincidence. That's just how it is. If it didn't happen on Earth or in relation to the Z-Fighters, we'd never know about it. So if it brings you any comfort you can imagine all of the powerful characters that nobody knows about simply because they didn't cross paths with the Z-Fighters. Boo did and thus, we know about him.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by MasenkoHA » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:33 pm

Most storytelling requires some level of coincidence or you wouldn’t have a story to tell.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by ABED » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:12 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:33 pm
Most storytelling requires some level of coincidence or you wouldn’t have a story to tell.
Pretty much this. It's why I don't think stories should not feel the need to over explain these sorts of issues.
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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by Psajdak » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:35 pm

I wonder what kind of role would 17 had in Buu arc, if he had a bigger role from that of giving Goku his energy.

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Re: The Plausibility of the Boo Arc

Post by MasenkoHA » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:12 pm

Psajdak wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:35 pm
I wonder what kind of role would 17 had in Buu arc, if he had a bigger role from that of giving Goku his energy.
He mostly like would have stayed at the Tenkaichi tournament. Unlike 18 he doesn’t seem to care much for money so he probably wouldn’t make a deal with Mr.Satan. He’s stronger than 18 which he means he probably would have won the tournament also probably would have been turned to chocolate like everyone else at Kami’s Lookout

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