Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
I feel like people saying Broly are in denial about what the wider appeal of this franchise is. lol To that end however, despite that initial blowback, a lot of people actually like Jiren and I have no god damn idea why. 1) He has no personality (YEAH BROLY I'M AWARE), 2) he has a completely boring aesthetic, 3) he has zero lore backing him, 4) he seriously does not have any interesting fight scenes, he's actually more interesting when he doesn't fight, 5) his character "arc" is lame as hell.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
With this in mind, it would have been interesting if Black did ultimately prove to be a being unique from Zamasu. He was different enough, but it would have been better to see him show a little more autonomy when Zamasu entered into the story. It would have solidified him as his own character. If the arc ended differently, maybe this would have been a possibility.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:41 pm On the topic of Goku Black: I, for one, consider him and Kai Zamasu as the same. Not just because Black is literally a body swapped Zamasu, but because he is merely an inseparable and integral piece of Zamasu's character. Because of that, I feel like Black is a tad overrated, but he did provide an interesting variation of Zamasu.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
I still say Jiren would’ve worked best if he was a genuinely heroic character, as opposed to a brooding loner who talks smack about his opponents and “doesn’t believe in friendship.” The manga does a slightly better job with that, since we do at least see him do something heroic in his introduction, and he never tries to kill Goku’s friends, but there still isn’t much there.Cursed Lemon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:55 pm I feel like people saying Broly are in denial about what the wider appeal of this franchise is. lol To that end however, despite that initial blowback, a lot of people actually like Jiren and I have no god damn idea why. 1) He has no personality (YEAH BROLY I'M AWARE), 2) he has a completely boring aesthetic, 3) he has zero lore backing him, 4) he seriously does not have any interesting fight scenes, he's actually more interesting when he doesn't fight, 5) his character "arc" is lame as hell.
Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
From the top of my head I'd say Roshi. He was a key character in the original Dragon Ball, which retired to background comic relief in DBZ. But ultimately he did gave up on training as he reached his maximum potential and got old. So why the hell did they pump him up so much and bring him on par with characters with power levels of tens of zeros, is a mystery. That, and desperately trying to suck an emotional response out of us. I didn't give two damns when he supposedly passed away during the ToP, frankly.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
Gohan clearly. I could also add Vegetto, Gogeta, Bardock, Hit, Kale/Caulifla, Black.
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Yeah in the Super (Anime) it was really jarring just how perfect he was. One of the parts that really urked me was when he self destructed and they wasted all that screen time only for him to not be dead. It was such cheesy bad writing and made me hate the character.Kinokima wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:12 amI do understand his appeal but in the Anime TOP I felt the director or whoever was just a bit too in love him. He was honestly portrayed too perfectly. I wanted him to have some flaws & growth on screen.UltraInstinctRorikon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:34 pm Ah yeah 17 for sure. Never understood his appeal, especially in Super (Anime).
I didn’t really have an issue with how he was portrayed in the Manga TOP. He didn’t really have any particular flaws there either but he wasn’t as front and center there either despite still being the winner.
I mean he is able to juggle a family life but also be the first one to hurt Jiren... It's weird how perfect he was.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
Tenshinhan after the Saiyan arc. I dont see much difference between him, Krillin and Yamcha but I often see people acting like he's anything impressive and other two are just weaklings.
DBS episode 90 comes to mind. Goku/Tenshinhan vs Gohan/Piccolo. Some people were pissed how Gohan one punched Tenshinhan and I don't see any reason why Adult Gohan should even struggle against him. The same people who complain about power levels not making sense.
DBS episode 90 comes to mind. Goku/Tenshinhan vs Gohan/Piccolo. Some people were pissed how Gohan one punched Tenshinhan and I don't see any reason why Adult Gohan should even struggle against him. The same people who complain about power levels not making sense.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
People are in denial about what a jobber Tenshinhan is. Even in the Moro Arc it's made clear he isn't any stronger than Yamcha (Yamcha, the patron saint of shonen jobbers).FortuneSSJ wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:53 pm Tenshinhan after the Saiyan arc. I dont see much difference between him, Krillin and Yamcha but I often see people acting like he's anything impressive and other two are just weaklings.
DBS episode 90 comes to mind. Goku/Tenshinhan vs Gohan/Piccolo. Some people were pissed how Gohan one punched Tenshinhan and I don't see any reason why Adult Gohan should even struggle against him. The same people who complain about power levels not making sense.
I understand the appeal of the character. He has an interesting moveset and distinct look. He's also one of the few characters to have had a satisfying arc. But Dragon Ball doesn't care about interesting moves or satisfying character arcs. It cares about what new hair color it can give Goku.
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Cell. He’s just conceptually boring, a mishmash of of traits found in every character created for the sole purpose of
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I forgot about Cell but I definitely think that he is overrated as well. I get that he has a cool design and all that, but what else does he have? nothing special.
I never understandood all the care for Yamcha... I've read Dragon Ball and he was just a gag character at the beginning and he has never done anything impressive. I could say the same thing about Krillin as well.FortuneSSJ wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:53 pm Tenshinhan after the Saiyan arc. I dont see much difference between him, Krillin and Yamcha but I often see people acting like he's anything impressive and other two are just weaklings.
Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
Well, Vegeta was my top answer so if I can't say him then I guess Kelfa, she's not really interesting, neither is Vegito. Any character built to just be cool, will quickly meet themselves on the overrated list. Preteen Gohan too, I like his teenager self more with the whole slice of life thing that went on. Although there are characters who I don't like who wasn't built for the cool factor, I don't like android 18 because all her personality is, is money and I don't like Krillin because he is bald and short has no money, and still somehow got a wife, that doesn't exist and that's too unrealistic even for a show with aliens and a dog for a president. That's just not real bro, I draw the line there.
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SSJ2 Cell Saga Gohan. I can't believe I'm saying this, since Gohan (all versions) is my favorite character in all of Dragon Ball. However, I've noticed that people's perceptions of SSJ2 Cell-era Gohan are so great that they don't tend to notice the many other times he's been great, specifically before. I mean...I get it. SSJ2 Gohan is such a memorable transformation, and he put on an incredible display of power. However, I actually prefer SSJ1 Cell Saga Gohan, especially with the cape. He was already stronger than Goku, and he had a calmness that had not been seen in Gohan until that point. Tbh though, my favorite version of Gohan is from the Namek/Frieza sagas. Maybe the terrible bowl cut is why you don't hear as much praise for that version of Gohan, but during this time he didn't hesitate to act, even when he was scared. You could really see the effects of his training with Piccolo and his fight against the Saiyans, that he had been molded into a reluctant but determined warrior. Plus the bloodlust SSJ2 Gohan showed against Cell keeps this from being my favorite version of him.
Don't get me wrong, I love SSJ2 Kid Gohan. I just think he gets massively more love in that state (compared to Frieza Gohan and SSJ1 Gohan) than he deserves.
Don't get me wrong, I love SSJ2 Kid Gohan. I just think he gets massively more love in that state (compared to Frieza Gohan and SSJ1 Gohan) than he deserves.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
Sure, Krillin was a bit of a simp, but that is the most idiotic reason for disliking a character i have heard.
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It does happen though? It’s just another Toriyama type romance where he completely skips over the courtship so we have to fill in the gaps of the 7 years. But plenty of people marry out of their league all the time.Ironixie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:56 pm
, is money and I don't like Krillin because he is bald and short has no money, and still somehow got a wife, that doesn't exist and that's too unrealistic even for a show with aliens and a dog for a president. That's just not real bro, I draw the line there.
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lmao if you're calling Krillin a simp then it's obviously not that idiotic a reason to dislike a character.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:45 amSure, Krillin was a bit of a simp, but that is the most idiotic reason for disliking a character i have heard.
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It might be a joke, but it's funny to me that people still believe women only care about money and good looks lol. Ever heard of personality? no wonder people struggle so much finding a mate.
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The reason that I was mocking was: "he is bald and short has no money, and still somehow got a wife".It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:55 amlmao if you're calling Krillin a simp then it's obviously not that idiotic a reason to dislike a character.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:45 amSure, Krillin was a bit of a simp, but that is the most idiotic reason for disliking a character i have heard.
very discriminatory thinking, there...
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Re: Most Overrated Character (Besides Goku and Vegeta)?
Not really. Krillin's a classic nice guy "simp" type character. Unattractive, broke dude bags blonde bombshell. Seems really obvious why someone wouldn't like him and there's nothing discriminatory about it.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:46 am The reason that I was mocking was: "he is bald and short has no money, and still somehow got a wife".
very discriminatory thinking, there...
Now, I like Krillin. I think he's great! Probably my favorite character in the series. But he isn't some out of left field pick for 'overrated character.'
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I like that we’re now unironically calling Krillin a simp when he was perfectly willing to let 18 be happy with 17 when he assumed they were couple and made his wish so they could be together. That seems 100 percent antithetical to simp/Nice Guy TM
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Krillin falls perfectly into the nice guy and simp stereotypes. 'Nice guy' and 'simp' don't just refer to passive aggressive guys looking for sex. They're like Captain Save-A-Ho and white knight, catch all terms for meek guys who are a little too deferential to the women around them.
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