Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

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Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sat May 01, 2021 7:07 pm

Both use a setting that blurs aliens and mythology (Urusei Yatsura had alien ogres, DB is the Monkey King though the aliens came later), characters with word puns, used a rounded smooth artsyle (which was early DB).

Was Takahashi an influence on Toriyama in the early years of DB?
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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by Retan » Sun May 02, 2021 6:15 pm

I doubt it as Toriyama didn't really read manga growing up from what I've read

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Post by Super Sonic » Sun May 02, 2021 6:22 pm

Retan wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 6:15 pm I doubt it as Toriyama didn't really read manga growing up from what I've read
Don't think that'd be an issue as Rumiko-sensei's about the same age, if not a little younger.

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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by jjgp1112 » Sun May 02, 2021 7:13 pm

The weird stuff Toriyama was doing with Dragon Ball went all the way back to Dr. Slump.
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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by Gon Soku » Tue May 04, 2021 10:08 am

jjgp1112 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 7:13 pm The weird stuff Toriyama was doing with Dragon Ball went all the way back to Dr. Slump.
Urusei Yatsura started in 1978, two years before Dr. Slump, it could have influenced Toriyama. Urusei Yatsura did lots of weird stuff, comedy and wacky characters. Of course he could have come up with all of that by himself, it's not like Takahashi invented comedy but Urusei Yatsura's success means Toriyama must have been aware of it, you don't start a comedy manga and don't know one of the big ones currently running.

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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by Retan » Tue May 04, 2021 2:17 pm

Toriyamas first published manga was Wonder Island in 79 I believe and that was only his first published manga I heard he created 300 rejected manga before that. I doubt Takahashi was any bigger influence on him, then he was on her.

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Post by Dr. Casey » Tue May 04, 2021 4:09 pm

300? Wtf

That's an impressive high score for anyone, never mind a 24 year old who's probably only had about 5-6 years to be submitting manga.
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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Tue May 04, 2021 6:36 pm

Retan wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:17 pm Toriyamas first published manga was Wonder Island in 79 I believe and that was only his first published manga I heard he created 300 rejected manga before that. I doubt Takahashi was any bigger influence on him, then he was on her.
Oh wow that's a lot of rejected pitches, but ultimately Dr. Slump ended up being the big smash hit shortly after that catapulted him to massive success.
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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by VegettoEX » Tue May 04, 2021 7:37 pm

Suggested reading:

Toriyama’s 1980 Monthly Starlog interview where he cites about 1000 pages of content rejected before official publication-

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... interview/

Toriyama’s and Takahashi's joint 1986 interview from TeLePAL-

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... takahashi/
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Re: Was Rumiko Takahashi an influence on early DB?

Post by Dr. Casey » Tue May 04, 2021 9:28 pm

1986 Toriyama looking pretty cute :P
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