Or Child of Peach seriesPurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:02 am Wanna live action “Dragon Ball”-esque film? Watch a Journey to the West adaptation
Or any Jackie Chan movie in the 70s
Or
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Or Child of Peach seriesPurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:02 am Wanna live action “Dragon Ball”-esque film? Watch a Journey to the West adaptation
That is a cool find, thanksYuli Ban wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:11 am I still maintain that Child of Peach did Dragon Ball in live action so well that it's genuinely Legally-Not-Dragon Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdgyfugzUs
Like holy shit, it's perfect
Wrote about those movies in the original Wuxia thread.Yuli Ban wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:11 am I still maintain that Child of Peach did Dragon Ball in live action so well that it's genuinely Legally-Not-Dragon Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdgyfugzUs
Like holy shit, it's perfect
Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
I wouldn’t say it’s wrong if fans specifically want a good live action Dragon Ball movie with the Dragon Ball IP.Kunzait_83 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:09 amWrote about those movies in the original Wuxia thread.Yuli Ban wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:11 am I still maintain that Child of Peach did Dragon Ball in live action so well that it's genuinely Legally-Not-Dragon Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdgyfugzUs
Like holy shit, it's perfect
Honestly guys, we can just end any and all "live action Dragon Ball" discussion from here on out with "just go watch the Child of Peach movies" and be done with it.
It literally IS Dragon Ball in all but fucking name. Down to the insane, demented sense of whimsy and toilet humor mixed with slapstick, supernatural kung fu nonsense and super strong wild mountain boy/country bumpkin martial arts savant hero played by a female actress and his talking animal sidekicks. They made this in live action to the exact letter back in the early/mid 1980s, back when DB itself was BARELY just starting.
At this point if all these examples that have BEEN out there for decades and decades and decades isn't enough to satisfy your itch for "live action Dragon Ball", then at a certain level it really IS just about purely "I need Hollywood/Disney and Marvel to validate my interests" rather than just wanting to see this done in live action simply for its own sake and for enjoyment.
It's not about validation. For many, the mainstream Hollywood blockbuster culture is everything, and any kind of foreign production just doesn't hold the same value. For better or worse.Kunzait_83 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:09 am At this point if all these examples that have BEEN out there for decades and decades and decades isn't enough to satisfy your itch for "live action Dragon Ball", then at a certain level it really IS just about purely "I need Hollywood/Disney and Marvel to validate my interests" rather than just wanting to see this done in live action simply for its own sake and for enjoyment.
If you're not watching something for your own enjoyment, you're not a fan of it; you're just peer pressured into watching it and thus ARE seeking validation. Simple as that. Caring about the wider audience reaction alongside you is, for most works, secondary at absolute best and missing the point at worst.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:53 pm When is any film or tv series ever truly viewed simply for its own sake and for enjoyment?
It's never entirely about ones own enjoyment. It can't be, for something that is available to millions and millions of people. The knowledge and awareness that other people are watching is always there, it can't be disconnected.Yuli Ban wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:22 pmIf you're not watching something for your own enjoyment, you're not a fan of it; you're just peer pressured into watching it and thus ARE seeking validation. Simple as that.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:53 pm When is any film or tv series ever truly viewed simply for its own sake and for enjoyment?
How is that not validation?MyVisionity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:53 pm
It's not about validation. For many, the mainstream Hollywood blockbuster culture is everything, and any kind of foreign production just doesn't hold the same value. For better or worse.
I would argue most normal people watch film/tv for enjoyment or because it connects to them on a personal level which usually ties back to enjoyment (feeling validated, feeling less alone, understanding one self better) with Dragon Ball it aint that deep. It’s either A. Nostalgia B. A general enjoyment of action oriented anime C. A love of goofy martial arts schlock D. Thirsting over buff almost always shirtless cartoon dudesWhen is any film or tv series ever truly viewed simply for its own sake and for enjoyment?
I can 100% confirm that this is NOT how I watch any show or movie. The only time other people's opinions affect my viewing experience is if I'm re-watching something I love with a friend or family member who is seeing it for the first time. But I don't need them to enjoy it to validate my own enjoyment.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:53 pm When is any film or tv series ever truly viewed simply for its own sake and for enjoyment? Especially something as popular as Dragon Ball. I know that when I watch a show or movie, it's always about the other people out there watching, to one extent or another. A Hollywood adaptation ensures that as many people as possible will be watching, which also amplifies the enjoyment.
Good thing you’re not an Internet celebrity, or you’d probably get in trouble for that comparison.Grimlock wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:24 pm Finally got to watch this movie. The only Dragon Ball vibes I got was when Shenlong was on-screen. My favorite reference is probably Shang running with Shenlong on the background.
Apart from that, I still wouldn't say "this is the closest we're gonna get to a Dragon Ball movie", because the predominant vibe I got from this movie was actually Avatar! All the movements, the light soundtracks even in battles... The characters can even airbend, for Dende's sake! Love it! This is the closest we're gonna get to a good Avatar live-action movie.
It seems comparing Avatar TLA to other media gets you in trouble.
The line of reasoning that Twitter used was that by comparing Raya to Avatar, Ellis was somehow suggesting that all Asian influenced media is the same. They also argued that Raya is supposedly an “authentic” Asian story, while Avatar was made by a bunch of white people appropriating Asian culture. Those people didn’t seem to realize that while Raya and the Last Dragon did have Asian writers, it was conceived of and produced primarily by a bunch of rich white Disney executives.dbgtFO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:04 pmIt seems comparing Avatar TLA to other media gets you in trouble.
All I know is Lindsay Ellis, a youtube content creator, reviewing and analyzing pop culture media got massive backlash for comparing Raya and the last Dragon to Avatar the Last Airbender.
Can't really recall why.