With DB targeting a more international audience nowadays, do you see a minority someday becoming part of the main cast?

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:50 am

ClutchBangstrip wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:40 am What's the OP's idea of a "minority"? Who's sensibilities, in our global society, are we asking these Japanese creators to address? Depending on your definitions, these requests may have already been fulfilled.
OP didn't put any thought into this beyond "This is a controversial thread premise :D "
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Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:12 am

Since this thread got me thinking about it; wasn’t it confirmed somewhere Toriyama based Vegeta’s design on a Japanese film actor? I swear I remember hearing that but can’t find anything.

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Post by Demon Prince Piccolo » Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:19 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:50 am
ClutchBangstrip wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:40 am What's the OP's idea of a "minority"? Who's sensibilities, in our global society, are we asking these Japanese creators to address? Depending on your definitions, these requests may have already been fulfilled.
OP didn't put any thought into this beyond "This is a controversial thread premise :D "
Same as with the Mr. Popo topic :lolno:
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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Post by Majin Buu » Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:08 pm I'm legitimately uncomfortable with the term African-American.
Same here, always have been. Primarily because only one of my parents is American in origin so ethnically the term doesn't accurately describe me. Just call me Black.

As for the topic, I've said before that Uub should have been more of a presence in GT given that he's Goku's student so this really should have already happened. Uub had little personality simply because he was introduced at the literal end of Z. The only reason a continuation couldn't flesh out his character is because the people in charge simply don't care to.

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Post by MyVisionity » Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:28 pm

Majin Buu wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:21 pm Primarily because only one of my parents is American in origin so ethnically the term doesn't accurately describe me.
Are you an American? Because if so, then I don't see the inaccuracy. Black Americans are comprised of all different types of peoples, including immigrants and their children.

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MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:28 pm
Majin Buu wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:21 pm Primarily because only one of my parents is American in origin so ethnically the term doesn't accurately describe me.
Are you an American? Because if so, then I don't see the inaccuracy. Black Americans are comprised of all different types of peoples, including immigrants and their children.

He literally just said he’s rather be called black

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Post by Demon Prince Piccolo » Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:54 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:28 pm
Majin Buu wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:21 pm Primarily because only one of my parents is American in origin so ethnically the term doesn't accurately describe me.
Are you an American? Because if so, then I don't see the inaccuracy. Black Americans are comprised of all different types of peoples, including immigrants and their children.
That doesn't make the term any less...weird. If you want to call me American...that's fine I suppose, mainly within the context that I've lived in America my entire life. Otherwise, just black will do. But African-American? That's a no from me, dawg. :thumbdown:
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The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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Post by Majin Buu » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:05 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:28 pm Are you an American? Because if so, then I don't see the inaccuracy. Black Americans are comprised of all different types of peoples, including immigrants and their children.
I was born in America and my mother is a Black American, but I'm also part Nigerian as my father is from Nigeria. "African-American" might fit for a Black American whose immediate and extended family all hail from America, but I view that term as excluding the half of my direct heritage that isn't American in origin so I don't use it. Again, just call me Black.

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Post by MyVisionity » Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:54 pm

It's cool if people don't like "African American" or don't personally identify themselves with it, but outside of an individual basis, it's still a valid and important term that is significant throughout society.

"Just Black" might cut it on an interpersonal level, but beyond that, let's not do a disservice to humanity by constraining our vocabulary and thinking.

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Post by Demon Prince Piccolo » Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:14 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:54 pm It's cool if people don't like "African American" or don't personally identify themselves with it, but outside of an individual basis, it's still a valid and important term that is significant throughout society.

"Just Black" might cut it on an interpersonal level, but beyond that, let's not do a disservice to humanity by constraining our vocabulary and thinking.
How is anyone doing a disservice to humanity by saying they don't like the term African-American (or any hybrid-American term), my guy? :eh:
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:36 pm

Defer to our black users on the subject, holy shit.
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Post by FPSSJ4_Goku » Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:44 pm

Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:08 pm I'm legitimately uncomfortable with the term African-American.
I never really gave a shit about it TBH. I was fine with being called Black or Caribbean or American
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Post by MyVisionity » Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm

Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:14 pm How is anyone doing a disservice to humanity by saying they don't like the term African-American (or any hybrid-American term), my guy? :eh:
They're not. :)

I'm talking about on a broader level, beyond individuals personally not liking it. It still has meaning outside of that.

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MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm
Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:14 pm How is anyone doing a disservice to humanity by saying they don't like the term African-American (or any hybrid-American term), my guy? :eh:
They're not. :)

I'm talking about on a broader level, beyond individuals personally not liking it. It still has meaning outside of that.
So can we get back on topic, please?
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MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm
Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:14 pm How is anyone doing a disservice to humanity by saying they don't like the term African-American (or any hybrid-American term), my guy? :eh:
They're not. :)

I'm talking about on a broader level, beyond individuals personally not liking it. It still has meaning outside of that.
Ah, I gotcha. Sure, I guess I'll give you that. :thumbup: Anyway I don't take a direct offense to the term, it's just that if someone verbally referred to me as such, I wouldn't know how to respond. It would just feel awkward.

Anyway. Minorities. Dragon Ball. Assuming the OP is talking within the context of Dragon Ball, I'm going to add like some others have said that Uub is the most natural choice to headline the franchise if they want to take it there. Just write some more actual character into him.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:31 pm I am thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to starting a "Shit MyVisionity Says" thread.
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jjgp1112 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:50 am
ClutchBangstrip wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:40 am What's the OP's idea of a "minority"? Who's sensibilities, in our global society, are we asking these Japanese creators to address? Depending on your definitions, these requests may have already been fulfilled.
OP didn't put any thought into this beyond "This is a controversial thread premise :D "
/thread? :think:
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Post by Jord » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:48 am

Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:06 pm
MyVisionity wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:45 pm
Demon Prince Piccolo wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:14 pm How is anyone doing a disservice to humanity by saying they don't like the term African-American (or any hybrid-American term), my guy? :eh:
They're not. :)

I'm talking about on a broader level, beyond individuals personally not liking it. It still has meaning outside of that.
Ah, I gotcha. Sure, I guess I'll give you that. :thumbup: Anyway I don't take a direct offense to the term, it's just that if someone verbally referred to me as such, I wouldn't know how to respond. It would just feel awkward.

Anyway. Minorities. Dragon Ball. Assuming the OP is talking within the context of Dragon Ball, I'm going to add like some others have said that Uub is the most natural choice to headline the franchise if they want to take it there. Just write some more actual character into him.
To me it's not even a pure race of minority thing. I get that the characters have mostly the same designer but from an aesthetic perspective it gets boring how every main character has the same skin and hair color. Uub is a great choice to freshen this up and make the cast look less samey. That's why I like the Namek arc so much from a visual standpoint. You got characters in all shapes and colors, which made them more distinctive. Just imagine if the Ginyu force all had the same skin color and hair color. Their design would be way less interesting.

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Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:31 pm I am thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to starting a "Shit MyVisionity Says" thread.
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Post by Demon Prince Piccolo » Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:16 pm

Jord wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:48 am To me it's not even a pure race of minority thing. I get that the characters have mostly the same designer but from an aesthetic perspective it gets boring how every main character has the same skin and hair color. Uub is a great choice to freshen this up and make the cast look less samey. That's why I like the Namek arc so much from a visual standpoint. You got characters in all shapes and colors, which made them more distinctive. Just imagine if the Ginyu force all had the same skin color and hair color. Their design would be way less interesting.
So...by this definition, Piccolo constitutes as a minority right? Because I'd take a Piccolo-led spin-off series lol.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.

I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.

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