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MasenkoHA
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by MasenkoHA » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:37 am
They would've been too afraid to have Videl be pregnant out of wedlock while also having their cake of alluding to Pan and being a post-Super Saiyan 3 story.
Considering the original plan was for Kuririn and 18 to get married after living together for 3+ years and having a kid together, not to mention Bulma and Vegeta having Trunks from a one night stand…I can’t see that being an issue.
The 18/Kuririn wedding is the only element from the pre-Toriyama treatment that I would have preferred over what we got.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:52 am
MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:37 am
They would've been too afraid to have Videl be pregnant out of wedlock while also having their cake of alluding to Pan and being a post-Super Saiyan 3 story.
Considering the original plan was for Kuririn and 18 to get married after living together for 3+ years and having a kid together, not to mention Bulma and Vegeta having Trunks from a one night stand…I can’t see that being an issue.
The 18/Kuririn wedding is the only element from the pre-Toriyama treatment that I would have preferred over what we got.
Yeah...but that plan was dropped. Clearly someone on the production committee was like "we can't sell that!"
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by MasenkoHA » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:07 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:52 am
MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:37 am
They would've been too afraid to have Videl be pregnant out of wedlock while also having their cake of alluding to Pan and being a post-Super Saiyan 3 story.
Considering the original plan was for Kuririn and 18 to get married after living together for 3+ years and having a kid together, not to mention Bulma and Vegeta having Trunks from a one night stand…I can’t see that being an issue.
The 18/Kuririn wedding is the only element from the pre-Toriyama treatment that I would have preferred over what we got.
Yeah...but that plan was dropped. Clearly someone on the production committee was like "we can't sell that!"
Toriyama changed it from their wedding to Bulma’s birthday. And the original writer hypothesize that Toriyama wanted fans to imagine the wedding for themselves. Nothing even suggest it was changed for a morality reason.
I just think Toriyama himself doesn’t care much for depicting weddings. Goku and Chi Chi’s wedding is just a title page with Chi Chi driving them in their wedding outfits. Bulma and Vegeta get married sometime after Cell off-panel. Gohan and Videl get married off-panel.
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by JulieYBM » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:12 am
MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:07 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:52 am
MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 am
Considering the original plan was for Kuririn and 18 to get married after living together for 3+ years and having a kid together, not to mention Bulma and Vegeta having Trunks from a one night stand…I can’t see that being an issue.
The 18/Kuririn wedding is the only element from the pre-Toriyama treatment that I would have preferred over what we got.
Yeah...but that plan was dropped. Clearly someone on the production committee was like "we can't sell that!"
Toriyama changed it from their wedding to Bulma’s birthday. And the original writer hypothesize that Toriyama wanted fans to imagine the wedding for themselves. Nothing even suggest it was changed for a morality reason.
I just think Toriyama himself doesn’t care much for depicting weddings. Goku and Chi Chi’s wedding is just a title page with Chi Chi driving them in their wedding outfits. Bulma and Vegeta get married sometime after Cell off-panel. Gohan and Videl get married off-panel.
Huh. I forgot about that interview.
Still wouldn't surprise me if my other theory were true, though.
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by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:26 pm
Heck, the only time a wedding is depicted at any point at least in part in the anime was the final ep of the Wedding Dress filler arc at the end of the OG DB and even then at the tail end of the episode. That is if you don’t count Krillin’s brief imagine spot with Maron (just before he breaks up with her) in that post Garlic Jr. ep.
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by MyVisionity » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:46 pm
MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 am
JulieYBM wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:37 am
They would've been too afraid to have Videl be pregnant out of wedlock while also having their cake of alluding to Pan and being a post-Super Saiyan 3 story.
Considering the original plan was for Kuririn and 18 to get married after living together for 3+ years and having a kid together, not to mention Bulma and Vegeta having Trunks from a one night stand…I can’t see that being an issue.
The difference is that Marron and Trunks were already born when they were introduced, so it's not something that the audience would be especially conscious of. Videl announcing her pregnancy at the same time as the wedding itself would be harder to ignore.
Aside from that, a Kuririn/18 wedding possibly would have been written to be a delayed ceremony with them already being husband and wife. And maybe Gohan/Videl were considered to be too pure and innocent compared to a couple of assholes like Bulma and Vegeta.