Thanks 'buddy', but I don't feel like relaxing. I've lost patience for this tangent.Skar wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 1:26 am What am I projecting exactly? Relax buddy. I recall King Kai only warned Goku that it would drain his remaining time on Earth. Goku seemed confident he could keep Buu occupied long enough for Trunks retrieve the Dragon Radar. Goku knew SSJ3 was unstable but the time he would've needed to knockout Vegeta would've been less than stalling Buu.
What are you projecting exactly?
This,
That's a projection.Goku could've used SSJ3 to defeat Majin Vegeta
You say he could have used it but he clearly acted like he could not have, did he not? And I'm pretty sure I gave more than just the time consumption thing on which you fixated on as the possible reason for him to not feel it was a right choice.
He literally said: I really don't want to do this because I'll pay a high price for it.. Goku seemed confident he could keep Buu occupied long enough
That indicates that he really didn't want to do it so it's very clear that him doing it with Buu was just simply a last resort and he had to go for it without expectations of anything, I don't think he was "confident" about the time, and how successful he would be, he looked worried to me.
With Vegeta, he showed that he didn't think he would need it and it was an untested transformation, so why risk it? Again, you know what happens in the story so to you it seems obvious. But he didn't know Vegeta would be an actual difficulty for him.
Injecting extras like "but he was confident about it" when he clearly is showing that he isn't, that's projecting assumptions about what the character really felt or thought.
You mean the reasoning of dismanteling something? Sure. The problem is people abused that and turned it into a completely different topic.I think that reasoning applies to most of those points.
Lol thank you. First response to the actual topic.Why was Vegeta given so many chances? After the Saiyan saga, he helped out enough and most of people he was involved in killing were resurrected. The Nameks he killed weren't wished back but they were never brought up again in DBZ. Same with the countless billions or maybe trillions he killed while working for Freeza. He was slowing changing his ways so he has given another chance each time. I'm not saying that he deserved all those chances or the way the characters reacted to him was realistic and only explaining why I think they don't hold him accountable after that. As long as he helped fix the problem and took more responsibility, they seemed willing to forgive him.
All that's mostly true except that he never actually helped fix anything by his own initiative, he's basically forced into helping each time and then everyone applauds him for that like he wasn't the one who had caused the situations he "helps" fix in the first place. None of the other villains had it so easy as he did. Imagine, Nappa is in hell and he wasn't even as evil as Vegeta.