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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 02, 2022 11:35 am

If you're making a work that's supposed to be marketed towards then you don't include unashamed sexual assault and harassment, misogyny and racism. An adaption of a children's work (the 1984 comic...and pretty much all of the cartoons and the current comics) aimed at a child audience with those elements should thus be adapted next without those elements. It's not a complicated situation.
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Post by Misu » Mon May 02, 2022 12:11 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am
Shaddy wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:11 am You do this just about any time you paint yourself into a corner arguing. "The soul of Dragon Ball" is not a material thing that any individual gets to personally decide the definition or significance of. The Dragon Ball manga and Dragon Ball anime have existed for decades and they will never stop existing.

I mean, fuck, you're in here complaining that I said a visual medium needs to preserve the visuals of the original work, but somehow the part that everyone agrees is fucking gross and weird is part of some unchanging soul nobody gets to question? This is just you taking the long way around telling everyone else to shut up and stop contradicting you.
No, all I'm saying is that I don't think the sexuality in the series is incidental. I think it's integral. And when you deny an integral part of something, I believe that is misguided.

Trying to edit out the sex, violence, and racism from the series is misguided. Or rather, trying to pretend it doesn't even exist.

The visuals are important sure, but how can the sexual perversion be any less important? It's a key part of Roshi's characterization, and a recurring aspect of the series. Bulma, Lunch, Roshi, Oolong, they all owe their existence at least in part due to sexual perversion. This is what I mean when I say it's inseparable from the series. The "soul" of the manga and anime that as you said has existed for decades.

Also, yes, many people find it to be fucking gross and weird. Many other people find it to be fucking awesome and hilarious. Clearly it doesn't elicit just one solitary universal reaction out of people.
Dude why you are so obsessed with perverted humor? Perverted humor is easily the most cringe thing about anime. You should start watching some ecchi anime they are filled with this kind of humor.

Also on the topic of live action Dragon ball I think that it should not be produced by Hollywood rather it should done by a Hong Kong action director. They would be able to capture the Asian aesthetic of Dragon ball much better than any Hollywood director. I am more interested in seeing the live action adaptation of anime with western aesthetic like Monster,Baccana,Legend of galactic heroes etc.

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Re: WIth the success of the Sonic movie, is it time for Hollywood to revisit Dragon Ball?

Post by Koitsukai » Mon May 02, 2022 1:15 pm

Sexuality might be integral for... Ranma 1/2, and I'm not too sure about that, either. But for DB??? that's integral to the story??? a few jokes told in the first 3 out of 28 volumes?
So you remove sexual jokes and Dragonball becomes... what? Goku's story makes no sense without the sex jokes? Cell needs porn for his perfect state have any narrative meaning?
How is sexual assault part of Freeza's character arc?
Future Trunks without the sexuality is just a pink haired teenager with nothing left to offer?

If that's integral, then what word, bigger than integral, are we using for fights? and for self-improvement?

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Post by DiloVortexx » Mon May 02, 2022 3:25 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:15 pm Sexuality might be integral for... Ranma 1/2, and I'm not too sure about that, either. But for DB??? that's integral to the story??? a few jokes told in the first 3 out of 28 volumes?
So you remove sexual jokes and Dragonball becomes... what? Goku's story makes no sense without the sex jokes? Cell needs porn for his perfect state have any narrative meaning?
How is sexual assault part of Freeza's character arc?
Future Trunks without the sexuality is just a pink haired teenager with nothing left to offer?

If that's integral, then what word, bigger than integral, are we using for fights? and for self-improvement?
YEA LITERALLY???? ok ill make my own reply to this topic too lmao

I'm sorry but i dont see the point of having the rly hypersexualized, perverted humour in at least a reboot of dragon ball for modern audiences or just.. making a live action version because like.. who really wants to see a character like roshi or oolong doing Very Not Great Things™ to women in a modern version of the series? not me, thats for sure

now id be all up for them exploring the other characters sexualities in a respectful way (espec. if we get lgbtqia+ rep (I'm looking at you caulifla and kale) and hell we delve deeper into gokû and vegetas relationship? cheers ill drink to that too bro /reference)
but all of the jokes abt sexual assault, racism, homophobia and transphobia (or any kind of lgbtphobia) and just the entire character arcs built off of said phobic shit?? yeah that can go bye bye lmfao
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Post by MyVisionity » Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 9:51 am You know you can have sexuality without having sexual assault and harrassment right? Roshi can enjoy reading porn mags and watching suggestive jazzercise and admiring hot women in swim suits without trying to grab his housekeepers ass while she's cooking dinner or insisting a teen girl let him bury his face in her chest. And Roshi, Lunch, and Bulma all have far more going on for them beyond sexual perversion. That's not what makes those characters. And Oolong is such a superfluous character at the end of the day you can omit him and lose absolutely nothing.
Roshi would be far less entertaining if all he did was read porn and watch jazzercise. His greatest perverted moments often involve him actively pursuing women, such as in the aforementioned Lunch's ass scenes or that time he shrunk himself to spy on Bulma in the bathroom.

Yes they have more going on as characters but it's an inseparable part of their characters was the point.

Oolong was a member of the original core team and a JttW analogue. That counts for quite a bit and you can't just leave him out of that part of DB history. Aside from that, I think he's a fun character with a good performer, and he's one of the only animal-type characters in the crew.

And not including racism and sexual harrassment in an ADAPTATION isn't editing it out its just not including it.
Agreed.

Misu wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:11 pm Perverted humor is easily the most cringe thing about anime. You should start watching some ecchi anime they are filled with this kind of humor.
You say cringe, I say indispensable hallmark. And I'm not big into Ecchi anime. I think this kind of humor works better in battle shonen and other genres where the balance is just right.

Koitsukai wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 1:15 pm If that's integral, then what word, bigger than integral, are we using for fights? and for self-improvement?
There are different levels and types of "integral". The sex, violence, and racism is one type, the series themes and character arcs are another.

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Post by Shaddy » Mon May 02, 2022 7:27 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am No, all I'm saying is that I don't think the sexuality in the series is incidental. I think it's integral. And when you deny an integral part of something, I believe that is misguided.
Others have already gone over how "sexuality" and "sexual assault" are two different things that you are conflating in bad-faith, so let me just follow that up with the fact that you don't seem to be understanding that what everyone else is telling you is that your idea of what's integral to the series is fucking dumb. We are not acknowledging what you think is misguided because we think your opinion is already misguided.
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am Trying to edit out the sex, violence, and racism from the series is misguided. Or rather, trying to pretend it doesn't even exist.
Well thankfully, nobody's talking about editing the series, we're talking about omitting sexual assault as comedy from a new adaptation. That's not pretending it doesn't exist, it's acknowledging that it existing is a problem and making decisions accordingly. This is called "adapting" something.
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am The visuals are important sure, but how can the sexual perversion be any less important? It's a key part of Roshi's characterization, and a recurring aspect of the series. Bulma, Lunch, Roshi, Oolong, they all owe their existence at least in part due to sexual perversion.
Barring the repeated false equivalence between "perversion" and "sex offender", just because something was a big part of the original doesn't mean it's inherently worth preserving. Adaptation is not values-neutral, the fact that you're even making this argument is essentially your admission that you'd rather preserve the nasty horseshit instead of the things everyone else actually likes about the show. The reason the visuals are important is because they're good, and the reason sexual assault as comedy isn't is because it sucks.
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am This is what I mean when I say it's inseparable from the series. The "soul" of the manga and anime that as you said has existed for decades.
And that's bullshit. Dragon Ball is made up. It doesn't have a soul. You're constructing one to push dogma that no objectionable content can ever be changed, and I'm saying that's shitty.
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am Also, yes, many people find it to be fucking gross and weird. Many other people find it to be fucking awesome and hilarious. Clearly it doesn't elicit just one solitary universal reaction out of people.
Why the hell should it cater to people who think sexual assault is "awesome and hilarious"? They can fuck off.
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm Roshi would be far less entertaining if all he did was read porn and watch jazzercise. His greatest perverted moments often involve him actively pursuing women, such as in the aforementioned Lunch's ass scenes or that time he shrunk himself to spy on Bulma in the bathroom.
So you're admitting that the violation of these women is entertaining to you, then?
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 02, 2022 7:32 pm

Toriyama Akira is the problem here, not the Muten Roushi. Toriyama Akira, JUMP editorial and JUMP publishing are the real live human being aiming this content at an inappropriate audience. If they expect to continue to market towards children then they—and their silly defenders—should expect to continue criticism for their actions.

EDIT: Dang, beaten to it by Shaddy. :lol:
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Post by MasenkoHA » Mon May 02, 2022 8:02 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm

Roshi would be far less entertaining if all he did was read porn and watch jazzercise. His greatest perverted moments often involve him actively pursuing women, such as in the aforementioned Lunch's ass scenes or that time he shrunk himself to spy on Bulma in the bathroom.
You might strongly consider why you think Roshi needs to attempt sexual assault to be entertaining.

There's plenty of humor to be found in Roshi that doesn't have to be baked in him being a sexual predator. Stuff like

Getting his head impaled by Chi Chi's blade when she tries to test him to prove he's Roshi and he shows her his driver's license

Throwing the Bansho fan out because he accidentally spilled wanton soup on it

Kamehameha'ing Gyumao's castle when he was supposed to just put out the fire

His petty old man arguments with Crane Hermit

Singing a juvenile dirty song at the Tenkaichi Budokai

Flirting with Ranfan like he stood a chance.

Getting plastered and hungover at the Hanami picnic.


Yes they have more going on as characters but it's an inseparable part of their characters was the point.
It absolutely isn't. But tell yourself it is I guess.
Oolong was a member of the original core team and a JttW analogue. That counts for quite a bit and you can't just leave him out
We are discussing a hypothetical adaptation. He is ultimately a useless character that has nowhere near the impact of Bulma or Roshi or Kuririn. You can drop him and it won't feel like something is missing like it would if an adaptation removed any of those aforementioned characters.

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There are different levels and types of "integral". The sex, violence, and racism is one type, the series themes and character arcs are another.
Shaddy already nailed this quite well but I'm going to reiterate: you can include sexual humor without making it involve sexual assault. Why this concept is so hard for you...

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Post by MyVisionity » Mon May 02, 2022 9:05 pm

Shaddy wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 7:27 pm
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm Roshi would be far less entertaining if all he did was read porn and watch jazzercise. His greatest perverted moments often involve him actively pursuing women, such as in the aforementioned Lunch's ass scenes or that time he shrunk himself to spy on Bulma in the bathroom.
So you're admitting that the violation of these women is entertaining to you, then?
Hell yes it's entertaining to me. It's not for everyone, sure, but DB just ain't DB without it in my mind.

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:02 pm There's plenty of humor to be found in Roshi that doesn't have to be baked in him being a sexual predator.
Of course there is. But there's plenty more humor in him being a sexual predator. The icing on the cake. It don't gotta be either/or.

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Post by Shaddy » Mon May 02, 2022 9:18 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 9:05 pm Hell yes it's entertaining to me. It's not for everyone, sure, but DB just ain't DB without it in my mind.
Okay, well...I guess we can only hope to ensure that your mind has as little influence over art and culture as possible.

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Post by Shorty GZ2 » Tue May 03, 2022 12:44 am

MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:00 am
The visuals are important sure, but how can the sexual perversion be any less important?

Also, yes, many people find it to be fucking gross and weird. Many other people find it to be fucking awesome and hilarious.
No way this man is real lmao

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so this is a topic I'm rather mixed about to be honest.. because on one hand its quite possible that we could get something incredible from the right directors and really... just anyone working on the film who has a very thorough understanding of the franchise at least would be really interesting! id love to see a take on the story where its half life action and half somewhat cartoon-ishly animated yet still having some textures that make it feel not too out of place for the aesthetic of the film? bc thats been working wonders for both detective pikachu and the sonic cinematic universe (thats p much confirmed at this point) films,,,
but at the same time.. i dont think any of us want a repeat of db evolution.. Image

i am up for seeing what kind of style theyd like to do with a new live action or at least western produced dragon ball film tho!
P much how I think about it, I'm not exactly asking for one but I'd be interested in seeing how it would happen & done well. Half live-action/half cartoonishly animated with appropriate textures like Detective Pikachu and the Sonic movies sound novel.

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Post by Peach » Tue May 03, 2022 1:10 am

Disney is definitely interested in the Chinese market and growing in the Asian market place. And considering they own Fox, who owns the film rights to Dragon Ball... It seems like a good opportunity for them

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Post by Misu » Tue May 03, 2022 9:45 am

Peach wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:10 am Disney is definitely interested in the Chinese market and growing in the Asian market place. And considering they own Fox, who owns the film rights to Dragon Ball... It seems like a good opportunity for them
Disney should stay away from dragon ball and anime in general.

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Hollywood DB movie getting the Mickey Mouse-ing (again, but this time literally) 😬

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Post by WittyUsername » Wed May 04, 2022 11:25 pm

Misu wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:45 am
Peach wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:10 am Disney is definitely interested in the Chinese market and growing in the Asian market place. And considering they own Fox, who owns the film rights to Dragon Ball... It seems like a good opportunity for them
Disney should stay away from dragon ball and anime in general.
Disney isn’t going to bother with Dragon Ball, especially when they now have James Cameron’s Avatar franchise. Besides, the Chinese government is getting increasingly more strict about what Hollywood films they’re willing to allow.

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Post by MasenkoHA » Thu May 05, 2022 10:10 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:25 pm
Misu wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:45 am
Peach wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:10 am Disney is definitely interested in the Chinese market and growing in the Asian market place. And considering they own Fox, who owns the film rights to Dragon Ball... It seems like a good opportunity for them
Disney should stay away from dragon ball and anime in general.
Disney isn’t going to bother with Dragon Ball, especially when they now have James Cameron’s Avatar franchise.
Ah yes that franchise that had one film in 2009 and was mostly forgotten about after it came out other than easy Pocahontas rip off jokes. And now the general consensus is more bewilderment there's even going to be a sequel after 10 years.


Truly the crown jewel of Disney's 20th Century Fox acquisition.

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Post by WittyUsername » Fri May 06, 2022 12:15 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 10:10 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:25 pm
Misu wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 9:45 am
Disney should stay away from dragon ball and anime in general.
Disney isn’t going to bother with Dragon Ball, especially when they now have James Cameron’s Avatar franchise.
Ah yes that franchise that had one film in 2009 and was mostly forgotten about after it came out other than easy Pocahontas rip off jokes. And now the general consensus is more bewilderment there's even going to be a sequel after 10 years.


Truly the crown jewel of Disney's 20th Century Fox acquisition.
It made $2.7 billion in its initial theatrical run. I imagine Disney would be much more interested in that than Dragon Ball, especially since, unlike Dragon Ball, they actually own the Avatar franchise wholesale.

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Shorty GZ2 wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 12:44 am P much how I think about it, I'm not exactly asking for one but I'd be interested in seeing how it would happen & done well. Half live-action/half cartoonishly animated with appropriate textures like Detective Pikachu and the Sonic movies sound novel.
OH YEA FOR SURE,, even if they dont go with the realistic textures and more animated style (look at that new tom and jerry movie that came out for example) i think it could still be done well,,
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Post by MasenkoHA » Fri May 06, 2022 4:50 am

WittyUsername wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 12:15 am
MasenkoHA wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 10:10 pm
WittyUsername wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 11:25 pm

Disney isn’t going to bother with Dragon Ball, especially when they now have James Cameron’s Avatar franchise.
Ah yes that franchise that had one film in 2009 and was mostly forgotten about after it came out other than easy Pocahontas rip off jokes. And now the general consensus is more bewilderment there's even going to be a sequel after 10 years.


Truly the crown jewel of Disney's 20th Century Fox acquisition.
It made $2.7 billion in its initial theatrical run. I imagine Disney would be much more interested in that than Dragon Ball, especially since, unlike Dragon Ball, they actually own the Avatar franchise wholesale.
What do those two things have to do with each other?

Why would an interest in Avatar cancel out any hypothetical interest in Dragon Ball?


Make it make sense

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MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 9:05 pm
Shaddy wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 7:27 pm
MyVisionity wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:58 pm Roshi would be far less entertaining if all he did was read porn and watch jazzercise. His greatest perverted moments often involve him actively pursuing women, such as in the aforementioned Lunch's ass scenes or that time he shrunk himself to spy on Bulma in the bathroom.
So you're admitting that the violation of these women is entertaining to you, then?
Hell yes it's entertaining to me. It's not for everyone, sure, but DB just ain't DB without it in my mind.

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 8:02 pm There's plenty of humor to be found in Roshi that doesn't have to be baked in him being a sexual predator.
Of course there is. But there's plenty more humor in him being a sexual predator. The icing on the cake. It don't gotta be either/or.
The humor comes from Roshi getting his just dessert after being naughty, teaching kids it isn't right to do so. It doesn't come from the lecherous act itself. That's what a lot of people are missing. The whole basis of the character is that he's a parody of the ancient master stereotype. Remove the parody part and you've got a basic archetype.

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