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CONSISTENCY! No, that makes no sense at all, but Funi pulls out that word every time they need to explain a choice that doesn't make a lot of sense.Castor Troy wrote:After those nifty red CG titles the Ultimate Uncuts had for their episodes, why did FUNi go back to the old white text like Seasons 3-6?
I've now seen 37 out of the 39 episodes in dub w/t JP BGM form. Comparing it to the "Ultimate Uncut" version on the previous DVDs and Cartoon Network airings, the only new redubbing I noticed was Vegeta's "Kaioken" pronunciation being changed to "Kayoken" after Goku first uses the attack against him. Everything else seems the same, even "3 years ago" and "Speed of light" lines are retained, though FUNi clearly did go to the trouble of somewhat redubbing some small stuff. Also, as mentioned, the "Ultimate Uncut" title cards have been changed to more consistent versions that match the rest of the series. I do gotta say, I was caught off guard that they replaced the one instance "Kaioken" is pronounced with a different take from Chris Sabat, considering that's a very small moment and didn't seem as worth changing as "Speed of light" or whatnot. ._.;;Gokuden553 wrote:Seems like Funimation didn't change the script since the Ultimate Uncut version afterall.
Yeah, I guess it had to be some licensing issue since other countries cut out some of the insert songs.SatoSky wrote:Could that have been because of some licensing issue? Or is FUNimation just trying to improve DBZ again?Castor Troy wrote:I just watched Piccolo's death in the dub with japanese music....
Why was the holy choir music removed?
Oh and Castor, your site isn't working.
From what I remember, the Spanish DVD's actually left the insert song intact. Maybe they were able to license it somehow.Castor Troy wrote:Yeah, I guess it had to be some licensing issue since other countries cut out some of the insert songs.
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The show does not look stretched like that when viewed on television. In fact, it doesn't look stretched at all. I have no idea how the hell that ended up looking like that, maybe some weird format the uploader applied to it before bringing it to YouTube.raf235 wrote:The clip on Youtube looks horrible. I compared this scene with the Dragonbox one from Japan. And the colours are way off. The screen is stretched, goku looks thinner in the Funi clip. And of course the cropping, it's horrible. I don't know how you guys can buy this piece of crap. And you guys call yourself DBZ fans. just buy the dragonbox or don't buy anything at all. If you buy Funi's crap, your just supporting them to make more crap.
Maybe this is a similar situation to the Goku/Jackie Chun fight in original DB, where it's a glitch with the international track from FUNi's masters when a certain piece of insert music can't be present. It may not even be a matter of licensing issues, since it's not like FUNi gotta pay royalties for this to air on television. But who knows.SatoSky wrote:From what I remember, the Spanish DVD's actually left the insert song intact. Maybe they were able to license it somehow.Castor Troy wrote:Yeah, I guess it had to be some licensing issue since other countries cut out some of the insert songs.
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Sucks about your site...
I don't understand what you mean by a "glitch" in the international track. Also, I don't see how FUNimation wouldn't have to pay royalties for broadcasting DBZ. Isn't that what licensing is essentially? I'm sure that Toei would love to be taking some of the insane amount of money that FUNi makes off of this property.Conan the SSJ wrote:Maybe this is a similar situation to the Goku/Jackie Chun fight in original DB, where it's a glitch with the international track from FUNi's masters when a certain piece of insert music can't be present. It may not even be a matter of licensing issues, since it's not like FUNi gotta pay royalties for this to air on television. But who knows.
I'm sure JAPPO would leave to see the full length dub Head-Cha-La intro. I'd do it myself, but this computer doesn't have my ripping software.Castor Troy wrote:Anyone got any requests for clips? I can make some high resolution and high quality clips. Plus I wanna test out my new server Smile
By glitch, I mean Toei may have somehow removed it for the prints' international track they sent to FUNi. Also, this new dub w/t Japanese BGM is DVD-exclusive, probably never gonna air on television; at least not Cartoon Network anyway. Why would FUNi intentionally remove something for licensing issues when it's not even airing on TV, which is where paying royalties matters? They advertised that this dub is to have the original Japanese music, and outside of the opening sequence being different, they have no reason to pull back on that promise.SatoSky wrote:I don't understand what you mean by a "glitch" in the international track. Also, I don't see how FUNimation wouldn't have to pay royalties for broadcasting DBZ. Isn't that what licensing is essentially? I'm sure that Toei would love to be taking some of the insane amount of money that FUNi makes off of this property.
From what I understand about licensing, which isn't much, as long as FUNimation is making some sort of monetary gain from using the original BGM, Toei has the right to some of that money. Now it could be that somebody outside of Toei owns publsihing rights to some of the specific insert song used throughout the series. Maybe the original artist, and FUNi didn't want to fork over even more money. So they opted to remove the damn song entirely. Again though, just my opinion.Conan the SSJ wrote:By glitch, I mean Toei may have somehow removed it for the prints' international track they sent to FUNi. Also, this new dub w/t Japanese BGM is DVD-exclusive, probably never gonna air on television; at least not Cartoon Network anyway. Why would FUNi intentionally remove something for licensing issues when it's not even airing on TV, which is where paying royalties matters? They advertised that this dub is to have the original Japanese music, and outside of the opening sequence being different, they have no reason to pull back on that promise.SatoSky wrote:I don't understand what you mean by a "glitch" in the international track. Also, I don't see how FUNimation wouldn't have to pay royalties for broadcasting DBZ. Isn't that what licensing is essentially? I'm sure that Toei would love to be taking some of the insane amount of money that FUNi makes off of this property.
Very similar to how they refuse to give ADV the rest of the Saint Seiya episodes.SDHero wrote:As an addendum, such bizzare issues can usually be resolved with money, but Funi has pretty well avoided paying for anything that wasn't included in their original deal over a decade ago. To be absolutely fair, Toei can be kind of a jerk about these things too. A couple of years back, they refused to renew the liscence for Sailor Moon, and you'll notice there aren't currently any Sailor Moon DVDs on the market. All Toei's doing.
True, but the Saint Seiya releases were never treated good enough. I am so glad that I know spanish and the Mexican DVD release of Saint Seiya.SDHero wrote:Ahh, really? I wasn't aware, but that makes as much sense as anything Toei's done.Sebastian (SB) wrote: Very similar to how they refuse to give ADV the rest of the Saint Seiya episodes.
Yep, that would be good.SatoSky wrote:
I'm sure JAPPO would leave to see the full length dub Head-Cha-La intro. I'd do it myself, but this computer doesn't have my ripping software.
