Why didn't Vegeta's tail grow back?

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:45 am

I remember one of Freeza's workers saying they where not able to heal his tail back IIRC?

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:51 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I remember one of Freeza's workers saying they where not able to heal his tail back IIRC?

Yeah, that's when Vegeta stated it would grow back.

Lance Freeman · Post by **Lance Freeman** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:54 pm

Yeah, something about how the end of puberty means Goku couldn't grow back his tail was what I was told. Then again, it's not like this is the only instance of plot lines vanishing into thin air, never to be seen again. Maybe Toriyama just got lazy, and decided to get rid of the tails altogether.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:07 pm

Lance Freeman wrote:Maybe Toriyama just got lazy, and decided to get rid of the tails altogether.

That's the real answer. I think he got annoyed with having so many characters with tails that he just decided to stop drawing them. He seems like a lazy artist, I mean the whole super Saiyan thing came about because he was sick of wasting ink on Goku's hair.

The better answer is Adult Sayians can't grow their tails back. I actually like that theory.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:13 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
Lance Freeman wrote:Maybe Toriyama just got lazy, and decided to get rid of the tails altogether.
That's the real answer. I think he got annoyed with having so many characters with tails that he just decided to stop drawing them. He seems like a lazy artist, I mean the whole super Saiyan thing came about because he was sick of wasting ink on Goku's hair.

It really showed when Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta arrived. They didn't have their tails hanging out, they had their tails wrapped around their waste for fighting practicality purposes. But in reality it could be that Toriyama didn't want to waste time drawing a bunch of people with tails.

Teclo · Post by **Teclo** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:50 pm

He does actually say, in an interview with Eiichiro Oda, that he doesn't really enjoy drawing. That's questionable, since he chose a shitty career if he doesn't like drawing, but he does definitely give out this vibe of "I don't really like doing what I'm doing, they're making me do it... And who is this Goku person you keep mentioning?"

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:02 pm

Teclo wrote:He does actually say, in an interview with Eiichiro Oda, that he doesn't really enjoy drawing. That's questionable, since he chose a shitty career if he doesn't like drawing, but he does definitely give out this vibe of "I don't really like doing what I'm doing, they're making me do it... And who is this Goku person you keep mentioning?"

I think that he does enjoy drawing without someone pointing a gun at his neck.
He seems to be more relaxed with his shorter manga than with Dragonball.
Dragonball seems to be, for Toriyama, like the son that was 30 years old and still lived at home and was unemployed.
His shorter manga seem to be like the children that soon moved out and went on with their own lives.

IncompetentOverlord · Post by **IncompetentOverlord** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:09 pm

Godo wrote:
Teclo wrote:He does actually say, in an interview with Eiichiro Oda, that he doesn't really enjoy drawing. That's questionable, since he chose a shitty career if he doesn't like drawing, but he does definitely give out this vibe of "I don't really like doing what I'm doing, they're making me do it... And who is this Goku person you keep mentioning?"
I think that he does enjoy drawing without someone pointing a gun at his neck.
He seems to be more relaxed with his shorter manga than with Dragonball.
Dragonball seems to be, for Toriyama, like the son that was 30 years old and still lived at home and was unemployed.
His shorter manga seem to be like the children that soon moved out and went on with their own lives.

His viewpoint on this has always made me extremely mad. If you're going to do a manga serial, then godammit, be prepared to commit! If it isn't popular, that means giving it a decent run, then ending graciously. If it is, then that means you've got to think out a plot that you'll enjoy drawing to the very finish! And when it comes time to finish, then do it in style, don't just say "fuck it" like Toriyama.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:46 pm

While I'm not saying this is the case, I will say that him saying he doesn't like drawing doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy being a mangaka. Maybe, while he hates the drawing, he enjoys seeing the end product. Kind of like childbirth... nobody likes going through that, but they do to get the end product, and they can look at and say "I did that.... good for me."

Teclo · Post by **Teclo** » Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:51 pm

Well, to quote him from memory, Oda says how much he loves drawing and Toriyama says "That's where you and I differ. I wish I enjoyed it, it would probably be a lot easier to do if I actually enjoyed it". He also totally forgot who Tao Pai Pai was in the same interview.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:41 am

Teclo wrote:He does actually say, in an interview with Eiichiro Oda, that he doesn't really enjoy drawing. That's questionable, since he chose a shitty career if he doesn't like drawing, but he does definitely give out this vibe of "I don't really like doing what I'm doing, they're making me do it... And who is this Goku person you keep mentioning?"

I think he enjoys writing more than drawing, which is why aside from Dragonball, most of his stuff is done in small serials. His style is very unique and fun and I think he enjoys drawing but I think he hates the tedious work that comes with making a comic.

Thats why I think his next comic(the collaborative one) will be a big success and something he would enjoy because hes not doing the art work.

Anyway, back to Vegeta's tail...
To make Toriyama look good I'm going to stick with the Puberty theory.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:14 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:It really showed when Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta arrived. They didn't have their tails hanging out, they had their tails wrapped around their waste for fighting practicality purposes. But in reality it could be that Toriyama didn't want to waste time drawing a bunch of people with tails.

With Raditz at least, I think the reason Toriyama had him keep his tail wrapped up was so that you couldn't actually tell he had a tail at first, making it a big surprise when he smacks Kuririn with it.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:04 am

Herms wrote:
Khalid Shahin wrote:It really showed when Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta arrived. They didn't have their tails hanging out, they had their tails wrapped around their waste for fighting practicality purposes. But in reality it could be that Toriyama didn't want to waste time drawing a bunch of people with tails.
With Raditz at least, I think the reason Toriyama had him keep his tail wrapped up was so that you couldn't actually tell he had a tail at first, making it a big surprise when he smacks Kuririn with it.

Now that you mention it, that might explain Raditz's hair as well...
I almost think that explains Bald Nappa to some extent, too. XD. In reverse...

NeverRamza · Post by **NeverRamza** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:21 pm

Akira Toriyama has apparently addressed this one before. The interview on this website is merely labeled "Interview from an old Shonen Jump issue with Toriyama" but here's what it says:

Q: What happened to Vegeta's tail after he was defeated on Earth?

A: The tail lets you gain tremendous strength instantly by transforming into a giant ape, but the risks are equally great--you'll lose your strength if it's squeezed. Once you're as powerful as Goku and Vegeta the tail just gets in the way. It is thought that the bodies of Saiyans, who are a fighting species, decided that their tails are unnecessary appendages

Really, that ultimately doesn't mean much, bit it is a take from the big man himself.

IncompetentOverlord · Post by **IncompetentOverlord** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:52 pm

Could you provide a link please?

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:17 pm

He sure was drinking beer, my mother always said:If you'll drink it, you won't grow.....

Damn, and I'm really not tall at all, 177 cm, don't know about my tail, Yeah I want him a little bigger, coz' I can't pee when it's -20 degrees of Celsius

NeverRamza · Post by **NeverRamza** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:33 pm

IncompetentOverlord wrote:Could you provide a link please?

Ah yes, I intended to.

http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/intervie ... yama.shtml

I imagine this interview was just scavenged from someplace else at one point.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:59 pm

NeverRamza wrote:
IncompetentOverlord wrote:Could you provide a link please?
Ah yes, I intended to.

http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/intervie ... yama.shtml

I imagine this interview was just scavenged from someplace else at one point.

I'm...unsure of the validity of this interview. Especially since they don't provide an issue number or anything.

*Sits back and waits for Herms.*

NeverRamza · Post by **NeverRamza** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:05 pm

Bussani wrote:
NeverRamza wrote:
IncompetentOverlord wrote:Could you provide a link please?
Ah yes, I intended to.

http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/intervie ... yama.shtml

I imagine this interview was just scavenged from someplace else at one point.
I'm...unsure of the validity of this interview. Especially since they don't provide an issue number or anything.

*Sits back and waits for Herms.*

I was thinking that too. Hopefully someone can locate the original source (if it exists).

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:26 pm

Because if he had his tail, Vegeta would've gone Super Saiyan 4 in the Android Saga.

Kanzenshuu

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