If Ginyu body-switches Gogeta and then he defuses...

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If Ginyu body-switches Gogeta and then he defuses...

Post by Innagadadavida » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:48 pm

So followers of Sailgar on Twitter might have seen his tweet where he asked if Ginyu body switched Gogeta, then Gogeta defused, what would happen? What are some of your theories?

I think either Ginyu would defuse into a half-Ginyu Goku and half-Ginyu Vegeta, or Gogeta would split into Goku and Vegeta both with Ginyu's persona. It might be an effective way for him to clone his mind/spirit/existence.
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Post by Kaboom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:50 pm

I think this question fits right alongside the infamous "what if female Ranma got pregnant" one and other questions that should not be asked.
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Re: Ginyu Body Switch Fused Guy Defuses

Post by Dr. Casey » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:54 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:or Gogeta would split into Goku and Vegeta both with Ginyu's persona.
I think this one would be more likely, personally. Or maybe Ginyu's influence would disappear once Gogeta defused but the spirit and mind of Gogeta would still be in Ginyu's body, meaning that the newly reformed Goku and Vegeta would be soulless husks incapable of moving or doing anything besides perhaps reflexive actions like blinking and crapping themselves.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:58 pm

Gogeta is a separate being from Goku and Vegeta. When the fusion runs out, Goku and Vegeta would appear again and Gogeta would still control Ginyu's body.

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Post by Kaboom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:08 pm

Rocketman wrote:Gogeta is a separate being from Goku and Vegeta. When the fusion runs out, Goku and Vegeta would appear again and Gogeta would still control Ginyu's body.
Wow, I think this is actually pretty correct.

As the man himself said, "I am neither Goku or Vegeta!"
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Post by Dr. Casey » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:10 pm

So Ginyu would be wiped out of existence, huh?

Talk about a complicated form of suicide.

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Post by Kaboom » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:24 pm

Dr. Casey wrote:So Ginyu would be wiped out of existence, huh?
Talk about a complicated form of suicide.
Not necessarily "wiped from existence." I think it'd just kill him, and his soul would move on like any other. I guess that's just what happens when you unnaturally plunk yourself into a temporary body.
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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:34 pm

Taking it further than it probably needs to go, I think it depends on what Ginyu projects into his victims (His soul? His consciousness?) and if Gogeta has a soul of his own separate from Vegeta and Goku. If so, would that mean that Gogeta's soul has been replaced with Ginyu's and every time the fusion was performed he would appear as the dominant personality? Or, would he (as you guys theorize here) simply blink from existence, leaving us with two Gogetas (one body and soul, the other merely soul)?

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Post by Duo » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:49 pm

What is Goku and Vegeta fused into Gogeta, then Goten and Trunks fused into Gotenks, and then Gogeta and Gotenks used the Potara?

The question reminds me of that, except not as done-to-death.

I think it would shove Goku and Vegeta back into their native bodies and Ginyu back into his own body in a really weird looking exchange of special effects.

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Post by Rocketman » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:32 pm

Duo wrote:What is Goku and Vegeta fused into Gogeta, then Goten and Trunks fused into Gotenks, and then Gogeta and Gotenks used the Potara?
The potara will explode because Gogeta can't be polluted by Gotenks.

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Post by Duo » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:35 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Duo wrote:What is Goku and Vegeta fused into Gogeta, then Goten and Trunks fused into Gotenks, and then Gogeta and Gotenks used the Potara?
The potara will explode because Gogeta can't be polluted by Gotenks.
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:45 pm

Duo wrote:Whom is greater in your mind, Vegetto or Gogeta?
Vegetto, because of the permanence of the fusion. Gogeta is designed to break up, so his full power can't truly be accessed, because it erodes his own existence.

Of course, this is just in comparison to each other. To everybody else, both are invincible.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:21 am

Duo wrote:Whom is greater in your mind, Vegetto or Gogeta?
A question that has been asked multiple times: Vegetto. Because Elder Kaioshin stated that the Potara was more effective than Fusion.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:06 pm

Duo wrote:Whom is greater in your mind, Vegetto or Gogeta?
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Post by MajinKing » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:55 pm

He probably wouldn't even be able to controll that body. Remember that he coudn't even controll goku at namek? So he would just ditch the body in the end.
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Post by Duo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:07 pm

MajinKing wrote:He probably wouldn't even be able to controll that body. Remember that he coudn't even controll goku at namek? So he would just ditch the body in the end.
He wouldn't know how to turn Super Saiyan or anything like that, but he was able to access about a fourth of Goku's power...so even with a fourth of Gogeta's power he'd be nearly unstoppable.

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Post by IncompetentOverlord » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:11 pm

Duo wrote:
MajinKing wrote:He probably wouldn't even be able to controll that body. Remember that he coudn't even controll goku at namek? So he would just ditch the body in the end.
He wouldn't know how to turn Super Saiyan or anything like that, but he was able to access about a fourth of Goku's power...so even with a fourth of Gogeta's power he'd be nearly unstoppable.
Also, Gogeta doesn't use Kaou-Ken, so he would probably be able to access more than that.
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Post by Duo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:36 pm

IncompetentOverlord wrote:
Duo wrote:
MajinKing wrote:He probably wouldn't even be able to controll that body. Remember that he coudn't even controll goku at namek? So he would just ditch the body in the end.
He wouldn't know how to turn Super Saiyan or anything like that, but he was able to access about a fourth of Goku's power...so even with a fourth of Gogeta's power he'd be nearly unstoppable.
Also, Gogeta doesn't use Kaou-Ken, so he would probably be able to access more than that.
Wasn't Goku's base power somewhere around 90,000 at that point?

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Post by Kendamu » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:30 pm

Duo wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Duo wrote:What is Goku and Vegeta fused into Gogeta, then Goten and Trunks fused into Gotenks, and then Gogeta and Gotenks used the Potara?
The potara will explode because Gogeta can't be polluted by Gotenks.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:02 pm

Kendamu wrote: That's simple.

Gogeta = Goku + Vegeta

Vegetto = Goku x Vegeta
Wasn't Fusion always been some form of multiplication?
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