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Who is the lamest villain?

Post by goodguy777 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:17 am

Recoome was one of the lamest. Can you think of someone worse?
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:34 am

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I'd probably pick Android 19. He and 20 had potential, and may have once been intended to be the big villains. But as it is, they ended up as fodder. Plus, 19 is ugly, and not in a "scary monster" way like Imperfect Cell. I'm kinda glad Mr. Toriyama's editor decided to swing down the axe on those two.
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Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:42 am

First off, Recoome was awesome.
Secondly, I'd probably go with the evil, grey Boo. He was only in an episode and a half... Understandably so, but still.

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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:43 am

Brolli, the retarded bulldozer.
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Post by Maphisto86 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:49 am

I would have to pick Buyon from the Red Ribbon Arc. Big bad ugly beast . . . but what is he defeated by? A draft. :lol: Overall though I don't dislike any of the villians as they all have something to offer. Even though both Recoome and Androids 19 and 20 or even Guurdo and the Sabaiman where eventually owned by our heroes, at least they where a major threat to some of our characters. Even Buyon was but the way he was beaten makes me think that he might be "the lamest villain".
penguintruth wrote:Brolli, the retarded bulldozer.
Also the lamest children's book as well. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:51 am

penguintruth wrote:Brolli, the retarded bulldozer.
Oh, CRAP, how did I forget Broly? Perhaps I was trying to.

Yes, Broly. He was no more or less interesting than any other movie villain in his first flick. But after that, especially with his over-wanked status in the modern fandom... lame lame lame lame lame.
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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:05 am

For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right? I admit that, after movie 8, his presence in those later two features was a bit much. Heck, I only watch movie 10 'cause Gohan eventually fights him.

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Post by TripleRach » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:36 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right? I admit that, after movie 8, his presence in those later two features was a bit much. Heck, I only watch movie 10 'cause Gohan eventually fights him.
Actually, I found Movie 8 really boring, but I thought 10 was pretty fun. In fact, my only real problem with 10 was the fact that Broli was the villain, instead of someone new. Someone who could more logically be a challenge for SSJ2 Gohan. Someone who had a better reason* to come to Earth than to yell at kids who look like dead people. Someone with a personality.

*I actually don't remember how/why Broli ended up on Earth, if it was even explained. Maybe I blocked it out, because I just saw it a few months ago.
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Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:57 am

TripleRach wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right? I admit that, after movie 8, his presence in those later two features was a bit much. Heck, I only watch movie 10 'cause Gohan eventually fights him.
Actually, I found Movie 8 really boring, but I thought 10 was pretty fun. In fact, my only real problem with 10 was the fact that Broli was the villain, instead of someone new. Someone who could more logically be a challenge for SSJ2 Gohan. Someone who had a better reason* to come to Earth than to yell at kids who look like dead people. Someone with a personality.

*I actually don't remember how/why Broli ended up on Earth, if it was even explained. Maybe I blocked it out, because I just saw it a few months ago.
Broli fighting chibi Trunks and Goten, without knowing who they are, makes it kinda hard to sit through until Gohan arrives. He begins fighting because Goten looks like Goku, but he still should've realized it wasn't him. By the same token, I've always attributed Broli's hate towards Goku as a mentally unstable fixation. Goku crying next to him when they were babies, coppled together with his natural ability to grow in power, especially over the years as demonstrated by his father's flashbacks, you then have a foe with a distorted mind, and a heavy dose of destructive force. I almost forgot to mention that since Broli was encased in ice for seven years after movie 8, he didn't age and his mind had the same thought process from seven years prior, which was to kill Goku.
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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by penguintruth » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:02 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right? I admit that, after movie 8, his presence in those later two features was a bit much. Heck, I only watch movie 10 'cause Gohan eventually fights him.
Movie 8 was too long for its own good. Before seeing it, I was hoping for a DBZ movie that was longer and more involved, but Movie 8 seemed like they were overextending something stupid.

The whole "Legendary Super Saiyan" thing was better left as some unresolved red herring. Brolli has no personality and his back story is nonsense.

And the combat was just Brolli bulldozing his opponents until the end. Lame.
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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:19 am

penguintruth wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right? I admit that, after movie 8, his presence in those later two features was a bit much. Heck, I only watch movie 10 'cause Gohan eventually fights him.
Movie 8 was too long for its own good. Before seeing it, I was hoping for a DBZ movie that was longer and more involved, but Movie 8 seemed like they were overextending something stupid.

The whole "Legendary Super Saiyan" thing was better left as some unresolved red herring. Brolli has no personality and his back story is nonsense.

And the combat was just Brolli bulldozing his opponents until the end. Lame.
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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by SaiyaMel » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:40 am

I think most of the villains were lame... Gurdo sucked as well.
Just Saiyan...

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:54 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:For as much flack as Broli gets, you can't deny how awesome movie 8 was, right?
Super Vegeta's foot bounces off Restricted SSJ Broly's neck. Yes I can. Fuck movie 8.

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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by mystic trunks » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:26 pm

penguintruth wrote:Brolli, the retarded bulldozer.
Buu makes Broly look like a genius.

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Re: Who is the lamest villain?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:32 pm

Lamest is Kid Boo, and Broly comes in close second.
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Post by LilKokuLink » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:12 pm

Yakon! From the Babidi Saga... god that creature pissed me off.
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Re: Who is the lamest villain?

Post by IncompetentOverlord » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:02 pm

I don't see where the Boo hate is coming from. He is intentionally dumb and childlike so as to be unique and gag-ish, whereas Broli was obviously the product of an overzealous writer who claimed that people who grunt and only say one word are somehow "cool". The hate going around for the Tokusentai is also somewhat depressing, as they existed to (A) Provide someone for Gohan and Kuririn to fight and (B) Satisfy Toriyama's need to write gag characters.

The worst villains in my book are the ones who are intended to be serious, memorable threats and fail horribly. In this regard, the worst villains were probably pretty much everyone in the Ultimate Dragonball arc of GT as well as the first four evil dragons, as they were built up way too much, and then fell flat. In addition, the Ultimate Dragonball villains also took way too long to defeat for an enemy of their battle strength at that point in the series. Maybe that would have been acceptable in Pre-Boo DBZ but not in GT.

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Re: Who is the lamest villain?

Post by SSJmole » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:06 pm

Garlic Jr.

I can stand Broly in first film. Plus he's only in 2 films. Other villains are not that bad. But Garlic Jr. gets his own saga and it's one that almost made me give up on the show. I hadn't seen the Japanese version so had no idea. I thought "oh great dragonball Z has jumped the shark." then I read online about him been filler and other arcs like cell were coming up.

But Garlic Jr. is so boring to watch and he's also kind of retarded. He got sucked into his own dead zone TWICE! really? really? That's just stupid. Even Saibamen showed more intelligence than that.

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Re: who is the lamest villain

Post by Krazy Monkey » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:14 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:Secondly, I'd probably go with the evil, grey Boo. He was only in an episode and a half...
...And that makes him lame, how?

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:45 pm

Bear (chapter 3) was kind of lame for such a cool design. He was just...sort of there, and then done got himself kilt. 'Tis a shame, really.
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